deadman_932
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| Quote (RFJE @ Feb. 14 2009,09:32) | | I offered you evidence of the innate nature of man's individuality to give evidence for the human spirit. I wrote that one to Louis. It's all in the chemistry of the brain you say--even ethical judgement or conscience. If we're just chemicals trying to survive and promote the species why is there guilt? You say it's the evil religionists' fault. |
"Innate nature of man's individuality" = evidence of spirit? WTF? Lots of other animals show individuality, do they all have "spirit?" And here, do you mean anima or soul, or that they're just rambunctious??
And who the hell said that guilt is the "fault" of religionists? Have you ever read anything on ethology? anything at all?
| Quote (RFJE @ Feb. 14 2009,09:32) | | Okay-- so I offered you evidence of things I have observed that are outside the explanation of chemistry or any natural explanation, because they were events--but you did not believe me. |
Of course not, you offered unattributed anecdote without verification or verifiability.
| Quote (RFJE @ Feb. 14 2009,09:32) | | Okay--so I offered you evidence of only a small example of prophecy--you tell me I am trying to convert you. |
Where did you offer instances of prophecy? I mean something verifiably datable prior to the event in question? Something not a post-hoc claim and not swimming in ambiguity?
| Quote (RFJE @ Feb. 14 2009,09:32) | | Okay--so I offer you something that I believe is a misunderstanding by alot of people--the law. And with it the evidence of our sinful nature. And yes it is a very sexual nature. You guys tell me I shouldn't wallow in sin--and again you tell me not to proselytize. |
Why are laws evidence of anything concerning sin? And why is our "sinfulness" somehow "of a sexual nature" to you? And no, don't proselytize -- it's not evidence or even meaningful in light of your initial claims. It's simply annoying and irrelevant.
| Quote (RFJE @ Feb. 14 2009,09:32) | | The bottom line is that we are on two different wavelengths. I do not disagree the facts in chemistry or biology. I disagree with you in the subject of origins.Then when one of your own scientists who is trained by evolutionary science, and is highly credentialed, turns and says, "You guys, there's too many problems with this theory and I really think there is some design implications here in this thing I'm studying--then suddenly--he is no longer a scientist. SO let's take away his funding, his status in the community, and then ridicule him if he is funded by Christians who believe in a designer. |
Who took away someone's funding for what you just stated? Got examples? Let's hear it. And why are you relying on arguments from authority and other fallacies? Won't YOUR evidence actually stand up to scrutiny?
| Quote (RFJE @ Feb. 14 2009,09:32) | I had some more natural science for you which at least you would have seen as evolutionary, but I hit the wrong button and lost it. I'll redo it.
And Louis I will answer your questions--and you do LIKE to do this it's not just the quarantine effect, or you wouldn't put so much energy into it.
I have to take my son to a game. |
Ah, now THERE ya go...bring on the data and evidence. That's what works here -- not fallacies and preaching.
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AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism
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