Louis
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| Quote (dheddle @ Oct. 09 2008,19:26) | Louis,
By the way, could you give a nutshell definition of "Identity Politics?"
I'm taking it to mean "voting for people like yourself" of which I plead mostly guilty. I said from the beginning that I'm long past the heartbreak associated with voting on issues. To those who actually believe that Obama will bring "change" or McCain will bring "reform," I say: let me know how that works out. |
Firstly, voting on the issues isn't believing what the candidates say, it's just *slightly* more profound than that. It involves, ohhhhh I don't know, actually trying to understand the issues beyond the soundbite level. I've explained this before and you ignored it. Voting for "reform" or "change" soundbites is as much identity politics as voting for Obama because he's black or McCain because he's a republican.
Secondly, "identity politics". What? The words are too complicated for you? Fair enough. See those silly train and dog pictures people posted above? They're a symptom. It does indeed mean "voting for people mostly like yourself", or perhaps more accurately "voting for people you believe to be like you", at least in part. BTW that's an important distinction, whatever comparisons you make you have no idea if Palin is actually "like you" (for example).
What bothers me about your approach, as well as the approach of others, it's by no means a party political point, is that you have explicitly stated your vote is available to whoever make the best PR appeal to your prejudices. That is explicitly anti-intellectual. And it would be if you were voting for Obama or even a candidate I liked (my political "position" is so far out of what is available in the US or the UK as to be unrepresented). You have (again) expressly stated that you don't vote on the issues (and again, soundbites=/=issues, keep your pathetic straw men to yourself). Is it hard for you to understand that it is your method of deciding who to vote for, rather than who you are voting for, that *I* am taking issue with. What other people are taking issue with is their own business.
Get it now?
Louis
ETA for maths fuck up
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Bye.
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