MadPanda, FCD
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| Quote (dheddle @ Jan. 25 2011,13:04) | | Quote (MadPanda @ FCD,Jan. 25 2011,12:51) | | Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 25 2011,12:45) | | lol....no one is going to hell just for having an abortion. |
Right. And you would know this, how, exactly? And your credentials in this matter would be what, exactly? (Forgive the snarky tone. This isn't so different from FL or Biggy claiming to have the right interpretation of scripture, all others be damned. Just because I LIKE your take on the matter doesn't mean I should just overlook the questions.)
Instead of telling this to us, why aren't you out trying to convince your fellow believers of this? Because this makes you the first (Christian) pro-birther I've ever heard make this (welcome and encouraging) concession...and there are a whole lot of others who haven't gotten the memo.
I would add that, all snark on my part aside, I do find your commitment to reducing the number of abortions by education and other means of birth control to be more consistent and helpful than the usual noise that results. Credit where it's due...
The MadPanda, FCD |
You are kidding, right? Ftk is absolutely correct in this theological point--and it is broad-based Christianity 101. That is, Christianity teaches that you go to heaven if you have placed your faith in the power of Christ's death to atone for your sins. And if you don't, then you don't. On that there is nearly universal agreement--so much so that that is as good of a working definition of Christianity that you can find.
The consequence of which is:
If you have had abortions and have the aforementioned saving faith, you are saved.
If you devote your entire life to charity yet lack this faith, then you are lost.
The are a lot of details about which have internecine warfare--such as how the faith is acquired, but on what I just wrote--no disagreement to speak of.
We must associate with different Christians--because I never heard even one say "if you have an abortion you will go to hell." If I did, I'd be tempted to smack him. |
Heddle, I understand that you can't help it because you're a Calvinist, but since I consider Calvinism to be an immoral doctrine at best, your interpretation of ftk isn't helpful here.
Here you go with the argument from incredulity again! You have either redefined Christian to mean an incredibly tiny subset of the whole, or you have some heavy-duty blinders on.
There is a reason I refer to your variation of the imaginary friend as a monster, but that's a completely different discussion for another time.
The MadPanda, FCD
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"No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis
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