Schroedinger's Dog
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Joined: Jan. 2009
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Quite surprisingly, I find myself comming in defense of FTK.
In this particular conversation, she has clearly stated that she personnaly doesn't want a legislation promoting or condemning abortion. She stated her own personal opinion on the subject, laced with god-stuff because she has a system of belief and keeps to it. We don't care much about the god-stuff, and I would say that she is totaly free to believe as fervently as she does, if it helps her with her life. Because most loonies on her side of the religious spectrum are trying to impose their views and morals through legislation (on the issue of abortion, I mean) doesn't mean she does. For this one, I will not bag her with the other nutjobs.
On this particular issue, I find FTK to be reasonable (i.e in contrast to her past stance regarding ID in schools). I do not agree with what she's saying, but she's not forcing her views on anyone. So for now I am inclined to make concessions and discuss the issues without attacking her faith.
AFAIK, she could be an atheist and still have the same opinion about abortion. She's a mother, and I can totaly understand her view, even if I don't share it.
Exact same thing for sex and promiscuity. She didn't tell us that we were all evil sinners and where going to burn in hell. She stated her opinion based on her own experiences and those of people around her (not counting the unreferenced paper, which I find a bit dubious). We have had different experiences and know people that also had different experiences. And the bible has nothing to do with FTK's or anyone else's position on this subject.
So if FTK is ok to stop the god-stuff altogether, and we agree not to bring it on the table, this could be a very interesting discussion.
But I'm obviously stating the obvious...
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