Ftk
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| Quote (Badger3k @ Jan. 23 2011,20:29) | | Quote (Stanton @ Jan. 23 2011,18:48) | | Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 23 2011,18:31) | | Quote (Stanton @ Jan. 23 2011,18:10) | | Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 23 2011,17:46) | | Quote (khan @ Jan. 23 2011,17:43) | | Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 23 2011,18:41) | | You know what, Stanton, in '09 in Kansas alone, there were approx. 9,500 abortions. I'm finding it very hard to believe that the mother/and or children were all in jeopardy due to child birth. "Therapeutic" can mean virtually anything. |
It can mean I'll kill myself if I can't get it removed. |
With counseling for the emotional state, it could be removed through natural birth and placed with another family would could better care for it. 9 months isn't a lifetime. |
So, is that what you'd suggest for, say, a 9 year old rape victim? Even though her doctors said that she would probably literally die by the 7th month because her body is just not big or developed to bear children? That she should just have counseling?
Or, what about a woman whose pregnancy is causing her lungs to fill up with fluid? |
Stanton,
These are very unusual predictaments. This is not the norm. I firmly believe that if a mother is at the point of having to chose life over death due to childbirth, I think God would be forgiving of letting the child come back to Him. That does not mean that I would suggest terminating the pregnancy at the start. I've seen very small women give birth with little complications. Aborting the child might leave more emotional scars than the physical scars of actually having it. |
That's not what the Roman Catholic Church, or any of the churches in the US say.
When this one 9 year old girl was pregnant with twins due to her stepfather repeatedly raping her, her doctors stated that, if she were to attempt to carry her twins to term, she would undoubtedly die because her body was not fully developed to handle pregnancy: and the off chance that she wouldn't die, she would still be rendered totally sterile, and either way, the twins would never survive. When the girl was given an abortion, the Cardinal of Brazil excommunicated her mother and her doctors for doing that. The Vatican still considers her stepfather a good, upstanding member of the Church, though, because he's never performed any abortions. |
Look at what the Bishop of Pheonix said (regardless of the cost).
Besides, if you make abortions illegal, even with regards to rape of children, then priests can be celibate and still have kids! |
Hmmm....difficult situation to say the least. I'd have to check scripture more closely, but as far as I know, there aren't any detailed suggestions or laws about situations like this.
I've given my viewpoint about upholding the life of the mother over the child if it comes to that. But, I don't think pregnancy should be terminated until it is medically certain that the Mother is going to lose her life. This may put the Mother at some risk waiting, but it's the best option, imho. No, I'm not demanding anyone to take my point of view, so hush. I'm stating my opinion.
There are whispers and their are shouts in the Bible. We're better off abiding by the shouts and not arguing so vehemently about the whispers....if that makes sense. Some Christians need to step back and take a breath before they judge so harshly. It's not their job.
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"Evolution is a creationism and just as illogical [as] the other pantheistic creation myths" -forastero
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