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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2010,10:38   

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Vox decides to pit science against religion:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2010/07/science-vs-religion.html

   
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PTQ claimed that science has a vast track record of correct predictions while religion has none. "Science has produced zillions of correct predictions. Religion has produced none. A bigger winner-loser gulf does not exist." Very well, then let's place a bet on the matter:

Religion: The poor will be with you always.
Science: Global poverty will be ended by 2025.

From The End of Poverty by economist Jeffrey Sachs: "This book declares, at the core, that steadfast, science-based approaches can end extreme poverty on the planet. The benefits of modern science and technology which have reached Bulgaria and most of the rest of the world can work for the poorest of the poor as well.... the great challenge and possibility of our time: to end extreme poverty on the planet by the year 2025."

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So my socks had some fun.

First - its a horrible strawman. Jeffrey Sachs is not the spokesman for 'science' nor is ".... the great challenge and possibility of our time: to end extreme poverty on the planet by the year 2025" a prediction, more like a call to arms.

The quote "The poor will be with you always." is from Mark 14. But Mark 16 has BETTER predictions:

   
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15He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. 16Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well."


Funny how he didn't choose these ones.

Of course all the comments my sock made pointing this out to him were deleted, because the intellectual midget can have reality raining on his TARDrade.

Now Richard, to be fair you should pick something else. That passage, know as the Markan Appendix is not in many of the oldest extant manuscripts. Most view it as an addition--and most bible translations will indicate that Mark 16:8 is probably the last verse in the chapter.

For example, the NIV inserts this comment after verse 9:

The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20

Fair enough. But the The Codex Sinaiticus has no resurrection. Are you willing to toss that one out?

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