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| Quote (Sol3a1 @ Feb. 06 2011,09:49) | Howdy people,
I ran into this: "Trisha Gura, "Bones, Molecules or Both?" and when I typed it in to get a search, holy deep quote mine batman, in addition to the site of the magazine, Nature, that published it, it seems that this is a "major find" for every ID or Creation website out there.
Even though I am not a biologist, after reading what the writer stated and then what the ID sites think she said there's is a reach. I think that the ID and YEC sites are in the words of the great philosopher Inigo Montoya | Quote | | You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means |
or am I the one missing something? |
Yes, the YEC sites are grasping at straws. IMHO, Gura's article (science journalism, not peer reviewed research) exaggerated issues that existed at the time.
Gura's article was taken up almost immediately by the ID crowd. If you go a page or two down into the Google search, you'll find an NCSE site hit. The DI had referenced the Gura article in a bibliography they submitted to the Ohio State BOE, back in 2002. The NCSE site shows that Gura responded to their request for answers to a questionnaire asking if the author agrees that their article questions evolution. (Gura is not quoted by the NCSE, however.)
The ID crowd (Casey Luskin, for example) is never going to engage on the level of incongruence in phylogenies vs the overwhelming level of congruence in those same phylogenies. Its not like one method groups dogs and starfish, while the other doesn't. The incongruences are at the twig level compared to the overall tree of life. Places where the data is spotty on both the molecular and morphological sides.
And in the end, what is the scientific response to incongruences?
http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Auk/v115n01/p0127-p0141.pdf
Buckle down and find out why, not throw up your hands and say Goddidit.
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I’m referring to evolution, not changes in allele frequencies. - Cornelius Hunter
I’m not an evolutionist, I’m a change in allele frequentist! - Nakashima
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