Ftk
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| Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Jan. 03 2008,12:09) | | Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 03 2008,17:51) | Ian:
| Quote | | On the other hand, do *I* endorse, condone or otherwise take as acceptable murder because I do not think there is an absolute morality. (I do not believe the universe has any opinion on murder, therefore it isn't wrong in an absolute sense, but due to human norms and certain cultural and evolutionary advantages it is (practically) universally considered immoral). |
Those human norms in regard to murder also arose through evolution, otherwise absolutely nothing would have ever started to evolve in the first place. Extremely simplistic example: If all those early organisms ate each other because they were hungry, the earth would be unpopulated. Morality is based on evolution for the atheist. There is absolutely no way to get around that fact. I have no clue why you people cannot acknowledge this. |
Errr.....no.
Human norms come about for many different reasons, biological evolution is one thing that may well have contributed significantly. Alternatively, primitive human religion (and newer religions as well, if they were dominant in a certain area) as well as government actions based upon individual opinions. |
| Quote | | Alternatively, primitive human religion (and newer religions as well, if they were dominant in a certain area) as well as government actions based upon individual opinions. |
Religion evolved as well. Ask Dawkins. PZ gave a speech in MN on the evolution of the mind a few months ago. The mind evolved, and religious thought evolved along with it. There is no other way it could have come about. As our brain, mind, and thoughts evolved thoughout time, alone with those evolving thought came our religious ideals.
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"Evolution is a creationism and just as illogical [as] the other pantheistic creation myths" -forastero
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