Wesley R. Elsberry
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| Quote (Ftk @ Sep. 22 2008,10:25) | Wes, I said I wasn't trying to make a point...meaning I wasn't trying to support either side of the debate. I read the article and thought that the issues being discussed early in history were interesting. I don't care who benefits from the article. Sheesh....
I also found it interesting that creationists had such a big part in charting the beginning outlines of the geologic table. From what is said here, you'd think that creationists have no interest in understanding the world around them at all. "God did it" and all that... |
This quote from FtK wasn't within the "I'm not making a point" context:
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Bear in mind that the geologic column was also originally devised by creationists before 1860 who believed more so in catastrophism rather uniformitarianism. The so-called "periods" and "eras" were later added to fit the evolutionary theory.
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The article cited by Ftk directly goes to those earlier assertions, whether or not (and consistently not, it seems) Ftk will bother to learn anything from even the sources that she herself brings into the conversation. I mean, I have from time to time said something, then had the bright idea of checking more than my recall, and found that what I said has needed correction, and brought such things up myself, noting the correction to my earlier statement. This doesn't seem to be the sort of thing Ftk does, though. "I'm not making a point," she says, but anyone can see that if she gave any credence whatsoever to the source that she cited, she should be noting that she would be making a correction to her earlier pronouncements. That she doesn't eloquently makes a point she did not intend to make.
As far the second line, Ftk still doesn't get it... even the article she cited makes it clear that the "creationists" of yesteryear believed dramatically different stuff than the modern religious antievolutionist of today, at least, if one is talking about YECs (who explicitly diverge from the old earth "multiple creation" viewpoint of those early geologists) or IDCs (who won't make any explicit statement that would discomfit any YEC). There are enough differences of opinion in the modern "old earth" creationist community that it is not on to call their views equivalent to those of the early geologists, either. The criticism of the anti-empirical tendencies of modern religious antievolutionists obviously is not aimed at those people from way back who didn't even believe the same things.
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