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ericmurphy



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2006,15:13   

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Eric ...    
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Dave, I defy you to find a quote (and quote the damned thing, don't make us do a search through the whole thread, don't be so freaking lazy) where I or anyone else here ever denied that a flagellum is a motor. You can't do that, can you? Sure, plenty of people (including me) denied that a baterial flagellum looks anything like the picture of the electric motor you posted, because it doesn't look anything like it. But no one has ever denied that a flagellum is a motor.
Uh ... OK.  The easiest example is on this same page ... Deadman ...    
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A flagellar "motor" is not a "real" motor in the sense of an inorganic AC or DC  motor, it's analogous to one, vaguely, but it is certainly not one.

Retractions, please?  You and Mr. Wells I believe?  

I think Russell said it too a while back, but I'm not going to go chase it down.

No, Dave, no retractions. As Deadman pointed out (and you missed completely), there is a "this" and a "not that" to Deadman's denial. Can you find it out? Even after I've pointed it out to you?

Deadman's point is that a flagellum is not a motor in the sense that your referent, an AC electric motor, is a motor.

One more time, Dave: a flagellum is not an AC or DC motor. Analogous to one, perhaps, but not one.

You really need to read the whole sentence, Dave, not just the first few words that leap out at you.

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