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Chris Hyland



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2006,05:13   

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We don't know a lot about how the body plans get realized in embryonic devlopment.
No, but we do have some idea and are learning more all the time.

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I do think that science will ultimately prove whether species are capable of mutating into new species, and whether they are capable of generating new body plans in the ways described by Darwinian evolution.
I agree, but I am curious what kind of proof you would require.

It seems your argument is that a universe with a god would be very different than one with out a god. I am perfectly happy to accept that this is true, in fact so does Richard Dawkins. The problem is that the supporters of ID claim to have evidence of the former. I am open to the possibility that evidence will be found, but to say that it what is currently presented is evidence to even the most basic scientific standards is simply dishonest. I have read dozens of papers by biologists, chemists, engineers and mathematicians which all argue that biological systems exhibit the characteristics we would expect if they had arisen by evolutionary processes, so ID has a long way to catch up.

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Was Miller's God totally surprised at the emergence of man? Did he say, Oh My, look at this!
This is a good question, and I have never heard a religious person answer it. Presumably an omnipotent god would know this would be the result even if he didn't specifically plan it, but I don't know.

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Sure, with four aces you couldn't tell. But with sufficent levels of unlikelihood, one comes to the conclusion a thing was not random.
The point is that to calculate the level of unlikelyhood for something such as the flagellum to any degree of accuracy is pretty much impossible at the moment. I wish it wasn't it would make my job a lot easier.

  
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