PuckSR
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Joined: Nov. 2005
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Avo-
You completely missed the point of both Behe, Dembski, and Miller.
I dont believe that an incredibly long and detailed post would be very fruitful, so I will simply provide a summarized post.
1)Of course all components of a system are necessary for that system to be that system. The classic example: A mousetrap. The argument from the ID crowd is that the parts of a mousetrap are non-functional. The argument from the 'Evolutionist' crowd is that they are functional. No one claims that a mouse trap sans spring is still a mousetrap. They are arguing that a mousetrap sans spring is either useless or useful.
2) The true chronological order of development is unimportant for almost everything.(unless your DaveScot). A car is based on several simple principles....Boyle's Law, the concept of the wheel, simple machines(gears)...etc. No one actually needs to explain the chronological development of all of the technology of the car to assume that it 'evolved' from these other concepts. You might claim that the concept of the wheel predated the concept of pressure systems. Further anthropological evidence might discover that the concept of steam energy predated the wheel. It really isnt important to the concept of automotive evolution.
3) You were incredibly insulting regarding the entire Spetner Vs. Dawkins argument. You should apologize profusely, you were clearly misinformed....
4) Russel has already tried to explain, but I am afraid you might have missed the point. You seem incredibly concerned that the Theory of Evolution provide detailed information regarding the evolution of organisms. You seem to ignore the fact that ID cannot provide any of this information either. ID proponents cannot even agree on how organisms came to be in existence. The Theory of Gravity does not explain why masses are attracted to each other. It simply explains that they are attracted and describes the attraction. I keep mentioning the theory of gravity because it draws so many parallels with evolution.
We do not know why gravity works
We have only observed gravity on a small scale
We base almost all of our understanding on empirical evidence
They are both used to refute theistic ideas
Avo, if you have any problems with any of my points, please refer back to the number, and I will provide a far more detailed explanation.
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