N.Wells
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Joined: Oct. 2005
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Zachriel deserves some sort of award for distinguished service over at http://telicthoughts.com/scifi-and-id/#comments:
| Quote | # Zachriel Says:
September 12th, 2007 at 12:37 pm |
| Quote | | Bradford: If one looks at proximate causes one can construct a case for ID. |
What is the proximate cause? |
| Quote | # Bradford Says:
September 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pm |
| Quote | Bradford: If one looks at proximate causes one can construct a case for ID.
Zachriel: What is the proximate cause?
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It depends on what you are looking at. One of the focal points I believe to be helpful to ID is the exploration of minimal genomes. It seems to me that IDists would be well advised to consider this an area of research within which varying hypotheses could be constructed and tested much like their counterparts do with respect to abiogenesis. The overarching principle would be the position that a minimal level exists but varies within a range that is linked to the nature of the organism cited. Exploration of proximate causes, that lead to the demise of a specific organism when the threshhold is transgressed because function x is not present, would simultaneously lead us to a better understanding of minimal function. Only then would we be in a good position to assert that gradual, incremental process y leads to (or does not lead to) the minimal function of organism z. |
| Quote | # Zachriel Says:
September 12th, 2007 at 12:55 pm |
| Quote | | Bradford: If one looks at proximate causes one can construct a case for ID. |
You forgot the proximate cause. |
| Quote | # Bradford Says:
September 12th, 2007 at 12:57 pm |
| Quote | | Quote | | Bradford: If one looks at proximate causes one can construct a case for ID. |
You forgot the proximate cause. |
I did not forget it. I await the reserach results that would reveal it. |
| Quote | Zachriel Says:
September 12th, 2007 at 1:10 pm |
| Quote | | Bradford: I did not forget it. I await the reserach results that would reveal it. |
Okay. Then this,
| Quote | | Bradford: If one looks at proximate causes one can construct a case for ID. |
means this,
| Quote | | If one looks for proximate causes one might one day construct a case for ID. |
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Zachriel had a nice use of overstrike, and regrettably I can't reproduce it, so I bolded instead. Anyway, an elegant deflation of an bogus claim.
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