Erasmus, FCD
Posts: 6349
Joined: June 2007
|
| Quote (Daniel Smith @ Nov. 13 2008,18:43) | | Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Nov. 13 2008,15:25) | | hey daniel what is the difference between a living organism and a dead organism? i truly don't know. i would love to hear your opinion. please cite sources. |
A dead 'organism' is no longer self-replicating for one thing. It also technically is no longer an organism - since (most of) its parts are no longer functional. Some parts obviously keep functioning for awhile on their own.
You want sources? How about you tell me first how any biological system originated via natural mechanisms, then we'll continue talking about my views?
"Quid pro quo Clarice, quid pro quo". |
so let me get this, the difference between being "alive" and being "dead" is a matter of self-replicating?
now I would benefit from an elaboration on what exactly you mean self-replicating. I had assumed that you meant reproducing but I see that you don't.
so if you have replicating cells, ANY replicating cells, then you have life? so when I get my head chopped off by fundies who mistake me for a vampire, I do not actually "die" until all of the cells in my body reach some sort of metabolic equilibrium?
really it would be true then you only really die at absolute zero?
so when exactly is the point where something dies? what is that changes about the organism? it's parts are no longer functional? How does that different from a quadriplegic? matter of degrees? I don't see this categorical distinction here.
don't think for a second I am suggesting such a distinction exists. but you do.
i don't think you grasp the implications of framing your argument around the inter-relations of the parts of an organism. For you God is a builder with a lego set. If so he is one devious bastard. What an ill marriage between physicalism and your fanciful flights of reifying unqualified assertions.
natural biological system? ok. potato beetle brought from mexico by cattle, into colorado. went to england via human transport. was not a potato beetle, it lived in the seed pods of burs prior to its transport north (native populations still prefer native host plant). came back from europe a wicked beast that was genetically, behaviorally and phenotypically distinct from its' parent. the new form has spread throughout europe and is a pest in USA.
is that what you mean? i suspect not. but what, dear daniel, is the epistemic difference in the detail that you require as an explanation in this case, from the detail you require for the fracterial blagella? how do you justify that sort of comparison? Hint i think you don't.
now, those are natural mechanisms. is that a biological system? is this the 'origin' of a system, or do I have to get my own dirt? what is this bullshit even really about anyway?
LOOK AT YOUR HAND DUDE
--------------
You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK
Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG
the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat
I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles
|
