jeannot
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| Quote (The Ghost of Paley @ Nov. 07 2006,12:13) | Jeannot:
| Quote | | What's a fine tuned universe (third time asking)? |
Here's my definition. Notice that there are three components:
1) The constants for life have a low tolerance, which means that a small change makes carbon-based life impossible. This part is not controversial, and should be included in any model that seeks to explain origins.
2) The universe will probably not "choose" life-friendly constants because these constants are only a small subset of all the possible choices available. Therefore, our universe has a very small chance of existing. Everybody's still debating this part, of course.
3) This increases the likelihood that Something designed our universe. Most scientists reject this conclusion. |
We don't know if our universe had a very small chance of existing, and this question doesn't make any sense if we consider that the universe is all (the definition I use).
You didn't give me a definition of a fine-tuned universe, but for what you said, I conclude it's a life-friendly universe.
3) follows from the definition (2) only if we consider life as a necessity or a goal. Necessity implies consciousness (unconscious things don't want anything), i.e. God.
So, you presuppose the existence of God in order to estimate a likelihood of design (i.e. the existence fo God). This is a tautology.
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