improvius
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| Quote (C Gieschen @ Oct. 04 2007,07:57) | Okay,
Today's two issues :
1. You gentlepeople have about 60+ years of hundreds of studies with massive amounts of grants on your side.
My side has only recently begun to tackle the problem, hence the meger amount of data. For example on the barmin problem of Dr. Wise. He could use a little help, wheres the species debate still rages in biological circles between the lumpers and the splitters. I guess if I can have it both ways, so can you.
2. I am not saying that you don't claim a designer, but reading the anti design bloggers on the design sites, plus the "cruel designer" notion seems to me that you shoot yourselves in the foot. Unless you claim nature...oops...I mean Nature (so you can deify the process) is the designer, which is a nonstarter for you. |
1) Your side has had over a thousand years. The fact that you're not getting grant money is because you don't produce any results. And when people do give you money (and they do), you spend it all on PR instead of actual research.
Your "lumpers/splitters" argument is a false analogy. Arguments about species classification are complex because speciation itself is not a simple, cut-and-dried concept. Baraminology, however, is drop-dead simple. There were original kinds, completely separate and unable to mix. Therefore, the lines of separation should be clear and obvious. If there were real evidence of baraminology, it should jump out at us - especially when looking at the genetic evidence. The fact that you haven't found anything in all these years is a damn good indication that it doesn't exist.
BTW, it would be FANTASTIC if you wanted to continue the discussion on baraminology with us. It's a fun topic, but for some reason all of the creationists seem to clam up whenever it gets discussed.
2. I don't understand your paragraph here. Evolution most certainly does NOT claim a designer. But it doesn't deny one, either, which you erroneously seemed to think earlier.
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| Quote (afdave @ Oct. 02 2006,18:37) | Many Jews were in comfortable oblivion about Hitler ... until it was too late.
Many scientists will persist in comfortable oblivion about their Creator ... until it is too late. |
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