Erasmus, FCD
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| Quote | | But to put things back on topic and restate my opinion simply, I don't think miracles can be used in either sense, to support or refute theism. Anything beyond that is just justification for that belief and I'll leave it at that so as not to get accused of derailing the thread. |
Let me be first back on topic.
Yes, I agree with you. Please note that this reduces the truth value of the virgin birth, the sun standing still, god's existence in general and also the sum of all the special pleadings of both testaments to be equivalent to the claim that, this very morning on my very own street, I saw the image of the baby jesus in the pattern of flies that were attacking a particularly nasty and huge piece of elephant dung.
And it is also notable that your claim not only reduces claims about miracles but ANY OBSERVATIONAL CLAIM to the same ontological status.
And that means that I can point at the sky and say 'LOOK, FOOL' so then you look and I slap you with the intestines of a great whale, and then you say 'What did you do, damn you' and I say 'What?'. And you have no warrant for saying that I did any god damn thing because there is no way to tell whether or not such a thing happened or 'twas a miracle.
Opinions and say-so, skeptic. That's what your epistemology boils down to. That's fine and dandy, if you would be satisfied with the fruits of your laboring. But you wish to move goalposts. That's what gets most of us bent out of shape, not only with you but with the arguments from Hoo-Doo as evidence for the existence of Satan or what-have-you. Regular Old Dishonest God-Damned Inconsistency. That's all.
toodles
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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK
Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG
the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat
I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles
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