From welsberr Sun Oct 1 12:22:21 2000 Received: (from welsberr@localhost) by inia.cls.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e91HMLj05071; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 12:22:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 12:22:21 -0500 (CDT) From: "Wesley R. Elsberry" Message-Id: <200010011722.e91HMLj05071@inia.cls.org> To: evolution@calvin.edu Subject: Dembski, science, and claims Cc: welsberr, william_dembski@baylor.edu [Quote] It is the empirical detectability of intelligent causes that renders Intelligent Design a fully scientific theory, and distinguishes it from the design arguments of philosophers, or what has traditionally been called "natural theology." The world contains events, objects, and structures which exhaust the explanatory resources of undirected natural causes, and which can be adequately explained only by recourse to intelligent causes. Scientists are now in a position to demonstrate this rigorously. Thus what has been a long-standing philosophical intuition is now being cashed out as a scientific research program. [End Quote - WA Dembski, ] [Quote] If not, I have no further argument--you will have to content yourself with my scientific and philosophical analyses. [End Quote - WA Dembski, ] [Quote] There exists a reliable criterion for detecting design. This criterion detects design strictly from observational features of the world. Moreover it belongs to probability and complexity theory, not to metaphysics and theology. And although it cannot achieve logical demonstration it does achieve statistical justification so compelling has to demand assent. This criterion is relevant to biology. When applied to the complex, information-rich structures of biology, it detects design. In particular the complexity-specification criterion shows that Michael Behe's irreducibly complex biochemical systems are designed. [End Quote - WA Dembski, "Intelligent Design", pages 149-150.] I hereby request a copy of the data showing the application of the complexity-specification criterion to "the complex, information-rich structures of biology" which is referenced in the last quote. Wesley