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Post by stevestory
oh god sparc that book description at amazon is hilarious

Quote Book Description
Publication Date: January 4, 2013
"Darwin’s Dead Idea and the Man Who Helped Kill It" makes for highly engaging reading. Witness the fascinating journey of a smart, inquisitive adolescent rejecting his school’s ask-no-questions religious indoctrination into a mathematician, philosopher, and scientist of the highest order, one who today is powerfully and persuasively challenging academia’s reigning answer to the questions that haunt us all: Where did we come from? Why is there something rather than nothing? A leading spokesman for the scientific theory that is shattering materialist assumptions about reality and the origin of life, Dr. William Dembski responds to probing questions from James Barham, general editor of TheBestSchools.org. That interview forms the core of DDI. Dembski’s forthright and humbly restrained responses reveal the courage, perseverance, and original thinking that have made him a lightning rod in the scientific community. The heated controversy surrounding intelligent design theory dramatically confirms Machiavelli’s observation that there is nothing more difficult to carry out nor more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to handle, than to initiate a new order of things. DDI introduces readers to one of the stellar lights of the new order of things now emerging on the horizon.


Wonderfully 'humbly restrained' of them, ain't it?

Post by sparc
Darwin's Dead Idea and the Man Who Helped Kill It contains a modified version of John Barnham's interview with William Dembski first published on his TheBestSchools.org blog.
At the time of the interview (it was published on  January 12, 2012) Dembski was expecting that the proceedings of the secret meeting of ID-creationists at Cornell University would be published by Springer. Luckily, Biological Information: New Perspectives didn't appear and they thus skipped Dembski’s following statement:
Quote For instance, I have a very substantial anthology coming out with a major academic publisher, but I’m not at liberty to say where until it actually comes out, because Darwinists have the disturbing habit of trying to get publication agreements for ID-friendly literature revoked.
I hope he knows that we found the first evidence for <i>Biological Information: New Perspectives</i> in his CV on his own designinference.com pages.

Post by Wesley R. Elsberry
I finally noticed a 2009 review of 2004's "Why Intelligent Design Fails" by CMI's Lita Cosner that actually attempts to address the chapter by Jeff Shallit and me. That was about Dembski's CSI. I've posted a response on my blog.

Cosner is merely another of the folks who apparently didn't get it. She seems not quite as arrogant as some others, but she is still just as wildly wrong.

Post by afarensis
This doesn't really fit any other thread, so I'm putting it here because it is somewhat related to to the subject of science. Sense About Science has a number of interesting publications - mainly concerning skepticism. There are also some about how peer review works and such. The publications are directed towards educating the public rather than scientists.

Post by The whole truth
Gary, I strongly recommend that you get away from the internet or at least this site for awhile and spend some quality time with your wife and/or others who are close to you. You can always come back later. The battle for your 'theory' can be fought at another time.

Post by k.e..
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Feb. 10 2013,17:38) Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 08 2013,18:11)Seems that old Dembski has moved to Iowa, at least the house that registered his GoDaddy site is in Pella, Iowa.  Also, he lists his employment as "part-time" with a Bible college in North Carolina that has five resident "faculty."

Quite a fall from his days as a hot shot at the University of Chicago.  He'll be drinking Woolite out of a brown paper bag next.
Too bad Dembski insisted on really, really trying to prove things that are not true.  That is a rather difficult road to travel for a mathematician.  Dembski coulda been somebody, coulda been a contender!
For what? A deluded punch drunk black and white back seat passenger?

Post by Tracy P. Hamilton
Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 08 2013,18:11)Seems that old Dembski has moved to Iowa, at least the house that registered his GoDaddy site is in Pella, Iowa.  Also, he lists his employment as "part-time" with a Bible college in North Carolina that has five resident "faculty."

Quite a fall from his days as a hot shot at the University of Chicago.  He'll be drinking Woolite out of a brown paper bag next.
Too bad Dembski insisted on really, really trying to prove things that are not true.  That is a rather difficult road to travel for a mathematician.  Dembski coulda been somebody, coulda been a contender!

Post by Ptaylor
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Feb. 10 2013,12:21)I thought you would find the humor in my rather obvious bad excuse, for a big typo, of course.
OK, I apologise; you made a joke and I thought your flippant aside was ironic - I was wrong. I do encourage you, however, to pay attention to others' comments re your communications skills.

Post by blipey
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Feb. 09 2013,19:21) Quote (Ptaylor @ Feb. 09 2013,18:49)Man, that's funny. Blipey asks:   Quote
For that matter, what the hell is an "out small paragraph"?  Gary, you are the worst writer in the world.  Acknowledging the problem is the beginning to solving it.  Of course, this will do nothing to help your other obvious disabilities.  It would be a start to something better, however.

Gary answers:
  Quote out small paragraphs = small out of place paragraphs that need to be taken out
and without a gram of self awareness, adds:
  Quote , of course.
Gary, you Just. Don't. Get. It.
If you must know then it was a typo, from getting bored trying to make it perfect then I just sent the damned thing before I spent an hour fussing with it.

I thought you would find the humor in my rather obvious bad excuse, for a big typo, of course.
Why try to hide a typo? But, more importantly, why not acknowledge that you have no skill at writing when you admit that it would take you a full hour to proof a couple of paragraphs for a one word typo? If that is true it means that it might take you days (weeks?) to author two paragraphs that were readable and informative.  You're on the verge of admitting you have a problem, just take the plunge.

Post by Richardthughes
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Feb. 09 2013,22:35) Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 09 2013,16:40)What is it with batshit crazy fundies linking to youtube all the time?
And this one is for my mom, who just died.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....j2jrJk8

I love you...
Sorry for your loss. Perhaps spend more time with your family and less time here?

Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 09 2013,16:40)What is it with batshit crazy fundies linking to youtube all the time?
And this one is for my mom, who just died.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....j2jrJk8

I love you...

Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (Ptaylor @ Feb. 09 2013,18:49)Man, that's funny. Blipey asks:   Quote
For that matter, what the hell is an "out small paragraph"?  Gary, you are the worst writer in the world.  Acknowledging the problem is the beginning to solving it.  Of course, this will do nothing to help your other obvious disabilities.  It would be a start to something better, however.

Gary answers:
  Quote out small paragraphs = small out of place paragraphs that need to be taken out
and without a gram of self awareness, adds:
  Quote , of course.
Gary, you Just. Don't. Get. It.
If you must know then it was a typo, from getting bored trying to make it perfect then I just sent the damned thing before I spent an hour fussing with it.

I thought you would find the humor in my rather obvious bad excuse, for a big typo, of course.

Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 09 2013,16:40)What is it with batshit crazy fundies linking to youtube all the time?
I'm not sure, but I just happened across a brand new video ahead of a new album Magnetic with a rebel sound ARRL look that all here need to give a listen to: Goo Goo Dolls - *New Single* "Rebel Beat"

The way the song gets going seems to have some fans wondering what happened to their sound, but it does not seem to bother the steadfast welcoming the change to this musically innovative a sound and rare “Rebel” theme that this song in a way seems to bring back again but the rebel in the song is like a fill in the blank to (at least for now) apply for all the rebels reading here who are not afraid of scientific theory like this. Hopefully it works for Ftk’s slower connection after pressing pause to buffer ahead.

Post by Henry J
Quote Jim_Wynne @ Feb. 09 2013, 11:03
I suggest that the first sentence of your "theory" should be "It was a dark and stormy night."
No no no.

That should be "And darkness was on the face of the deep."

Henry

Post by Henry J
Quote OgreMkV @ Feb. 06 2013,7:08

1) With the discovery of the Higgs, string theory is mostly useless now.
Really? I didn't realize that the Higgs would be inconsistent with string theory. Or any of the various string theories. That's interesting.

Henry

Post by Ptaylor
Man, that's funny. Blipey asks: Quote
For that matter, what the hell is an "out small paragraph"?  Gary, you are the worst writer in the world.  Acknowledging the problem is the beginning to solving it.  Of course, this will do nothing to help your other obvious disabilities.  It would be a start to something better, however.

Gary answers:
Quote out small paragraphs = small out of place paragraphs that need to be taken out
and without a gram of self awareness, adds:
Quote , of course.
Gary, you Just. Don't. Get. It.

Post by Glen Davidson
Quote and I want to know who I am

Oh, there are answers.  

You just won't accept them.

Glen Davidson

Post by GaryGaulin
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 08 2013,12:27) Quote (GaryGaulin @ Feb. 08 2013,11:12)Won't you please, please tell me what we've learned.
I know it sounds absurd, but please tell me who I am...

See: "The Logical Song" (Supertramp) written and composed by Roger Hodgson

And you get pissed off at us when we offer a pithy one-liner to your pages upon pages of material.

Hypocrite.

Really, that's all you could come up with?  There are multiple (all) people on this forum (and every other forum I've seen you post at) that all say the same thing.  You don't have a theory, you don't have a hypothesis, you don't have evidence, you're assuming your conclusion, etc.

And your only comment is to link to a youtube music video?

Has it ever crossed your mind, that maybe, just maybe, you might want to correct these deficiencies?  I know you say you don't have to, but I can say I'm the king of Siam all day long too... doesn't make it true.
I was worn out from working all night on the long response to Quack, and that right away came to mind as having to answer your earlier so complicated a scientific method it only scares folks away from science.

Science is simply for answering questions. Explains how things work. A great example of what science looks like when it’s happening here is the microscope article then systems biology paper Quack found that at least made it easy for me to describe what might work for files from experimental data to show the circuit of molecular intelligence. That helps develop scientific theory, and N.Wells just inspired some too. But your earlier confusing word salad of your own is from a more cynical science administrator point of view that finds a way to not allow the Theory of Intelligent Design to be a scientific theory. Real-science hates science-stoppers like that, even though the Discovery Institute didn’t have a useful coherent theory yet.

Science it all about developing theories, that answer questions, and I want to know who I am, just like many others do. Whatever theory gets us there is fine by science, so fine by me, even though it's not politically convenient for the more science administrator type who didn't think the old saying "science is messy" could so equally apply to them.

Post by Robin
Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 08 2013,13:13)It doesn't say anything about the meteorite travelling back in time after Adam ate the wrong kind of fruit.  Is that settled science now?

Post by J-Dog
Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 08 2013,13:09) Quote (Robin @ Feb. 08 2013,10:56)Yahoo is full of interesting news today. Here's one about a born-again Christian who quite a job because the number "666"  came up on his W-2. Wow!

Suddenly Gary Gaulin is looking rather bright...
Quote Slonopas, who calls the situation "unbelievable," is seeking a new W-2 with a different number on it. He says that he can't file his taxes without one.
Perhaps he'll share a cell with Kent Hovind.
So, Kent and his BFF Bubba would entertain the notion of a"Ménage à Trois" ?

Oui!  I am sure that "Dr." Kent can find a "passage" in his scripture that will make it happen!