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Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,12:49    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:43) Trees are data recorders and with knowledge that data can be teased out and made into useful information. Because the climate information is encoded in the tree ring widths and can be decoded and used by scientists later. That's a code dumbfuck.  A simple physical mapping but a code nonetheless.  It's why scientists use the terms encode and decode when discussing dendrochronology as climate proxies.  Your amazing ignorance of all things scientific doesn't change scientific facts one iota. Dumbass. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,12:54    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,12:49) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:43) Trees are data recorders and with knowledge that data can be teased out and made into useful information. Because the climate information is encoded in the tree ring widths and can be decoded and used by scientists later. That's a code dumbfuck.  It's why scientists use the terms encode and decode when discussing dendrochronology as climate proxies.  Your amazing ignorance of all things scientific doesn't change scientific facts one iota. Dumbass. Data is recorded by the tree. Climate data is recorded by the tree. Then scientists come along, collect that data and give it meaning. The definitions of encode don't help you:   https://www.merriam-webster.com/diction....e Wikipedia don't list tree rings as a code No one says that tree rings are a code. That was your claim. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,12:57    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:54) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,12:49)   Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:43) Trees are data recorders and with knowledge that data can be teased out and made into useful information. Because the climate information is encoded in the tree ring widths and can be decoded and used by scientists later. That's a code dumbfuck.  It's why scientists use the terms encode and decode when discussing dendrochronology as climate proxies.  Your amazing ignorance of all things scientific doesn't change scientific facts one iota. Dumbass. Data is recorded by the tree. Climate data is recorded by the tree. Then scientists come along, collect that data and give it meaning. They decode the process which was encoded by tree ring growth patterns. Can't have encoding and decoding without a code Joke. Sorry Joke, you shit your pants and failed on this one too.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,13:20    The Kilauea of Tard. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,13:29    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,12:57) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:54)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,12:49)   Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:43) Trees are data recorders and with knowledge that data can be teased out and made into useful information. Because the climate information is encoded in the tree ring widths and can be decoded and used by scientists later. That's a code dumbfuck.  It's why scientists use the terms encode and decode when discussing dendrochronology as climate proxies.  Your amazing ignorance of all things scientific doesn't change scientific facts one iota. Dumbass. Data is recorded by the tree. Climate data is recorded by the tree. Then scientists come along, collect that data and give it meaning. They decode the process which was encoded by tree ring growth patterns. Can't have encoding and decoding without a code Joke. Sorry Joke, you shit your pants and failed on this one too.  :D Then what is the code, dipshit? And why doesn't the definition of "encode" support the claim there is actual encoding? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,13:30    Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 29 2018,13:20) The Kilauea of Tard. Yes, anyone who thinks that tree rings are a code are the Kilauea of TARD. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,13:35    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,12:57) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:54)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,12:49)   Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:43) Trees are data recorders and with knowledge that data can be teased out and made into useful information. Because the climate information is encoded in the tree ring widths and can be decoded and used by scientists later. That's a code dumbfuck.  It's why scientists use the terms encode and decode when discussing dendrochronology as climate proxies.  Your amazing ignorance of all things scientific doesn't change scientific facts one iota. Dumbass. Data is recorded by the tree. Climate data is recorded by the tree. Then scientists come along, collect that data and give it meaning. Can't have encoding and decoding without a code Joke. Then what is the code? What does your super-duper secret tree ring decoder ring say? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,14:36    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,13:35) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,12:57)   Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:54)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,12:49)     Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:43) Trees are data recorders and with knowledge that data can be teased out and made into useful information. Because the climate information is encoded in the tree ring widths and can be decoded and used by scientists later. That's a code dumbfuck.  It's why scientists use the terms encode and decode when discussing dendrochronology as climate proxies.  Your amazing ignorance of all things scientific doesn't change scientific facts one iota. Dumbass. Data is recorded by the tree. Climate data is recorded by the tree. Then scientists come along, collect that data and give it meaning. Can't have encoding and decoding without a code Joke. Then what is the code? What does your super-duper secret tree ring decoder ring say? I already posted it for you twice dumbfuck.  It's the tree ring widths which encode information about the climate at the time they grew.  More favorable conditions (warmer, wetter) = wider rings.  Poorer conditions (colder, drought) = narrower rings. Your ignorance and stupidity is legendary across the internet Joke.  There's no topic so esoteric you won't make a fool out of yourself over it.  Stick with your YEC baraminology. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,14:45    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,14:36) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,13:35)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,12:57)   Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:54)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,12:49)       Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:43) Trees are data recorders and with knowledge that data can be teased out and made into useful information. Because the climate information is encoded in the tree ring widths and can be decoded and used by scientists later. That's a code dumbfuck.  It's why scientists use the terms encode and decode when discussing dendrochronology as climate proxies.  Your amazing ignorance of all things scientific doesn't change scientific facts one iota. Dumbass. Data is recorded by the tree. Climate data is recorded by the tree. Then scientists come along, collect that data and give it meaning. Can't have encoding and decoding without a code Joke. Then what is the code? What does your super-duper secret tree ring decoder ring say? I already posted it for you twice dumbfuck.  It's the tree ring widths which encode information about the climate at the time they grew.  More favorable conditions (warmer, wetter) = wider rings.  Poorer conditions (colder, drought) = narrower rings. Your ignorance and stupidity is legendary across the internet Joke.  There's no topic so esoteric you won't make a fool out of yourself over it.  Stick with your YEC baraminology. Clearly you don't have any clue as to what a code is. What is the code used to encode? And why are you conflating data with information? Look, moron, trees record the data. We come along and after years of study come to some understanding of how to gather that data and give it meaning. Why doesn't anyone else call tree rings a code? Tree ring widths are part of the data. You can't scan them and get some reading like we do actual barcodes. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,14:52    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,14:45)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,14:36)     Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,13:35)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,12:57)         Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:54)           Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,12:49)           Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,12:43) Trees are data recorders and with knowledge that data can be teased out and made into useful information. Because the climate information is encoded in the tree ring widths and can be decoded and used by scientists later. That's a code dumbfuck.  It's why scientists use the terms encode and decode when discussing dendrochronology as climate proxies.  Your amazing ignorance of all things scientific doesn't change scientific facts one iota. Dumbass. Data is recorded by the tree. Climate data is recorded by the tree. Then scientists come along, collect that data and give it meaning. Can't have encoding and decoding without a code Joke. Then what is the code? What does your super-duper secret tree ring decoder ring say? I already posted it for you twice dumbfuck.  It's the tree ring widths which encode information about the climate at the time they grew.  More favorable conditions (warmer, wetter) = wider rings.  Poorer conditions (colder, drought) = narrower rings. Your ignorance and stupidity is legendary across the internet Joke.  There's no topic so esoteric you won't make a fool out of yourself over it.  Stick with your YEC baraminology. Clearly you don't have any clue as to what a code is. What is the code used to encode? And why are you conflating data with information? Look, moron, trees record the data. We come along and after years of study come to some understanding of how to gather that data and give it meaning. Why doesn't anyone else call tree rings a code? Tree ring widths are part of the data. You can't scan them and get some reading like we do actual barcodes. Dumbfuck Joke Gallien, the world's dumbest human.   frequency = wavelength tree rings don't encode information ice isn't made of water. genetics supports YEC baraminology the Earth is young but made of old materials.     All this entertainment for free.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,14:54    Quote It's the tree ring widths which encode information about the climate at the time they grew. Quote Can't have encoding and decoding without a code Code code is a system of rules to convert information Notice there isn't any mention of tree rings on that page Data According to a common view, data is collected and analyzed; data only becomes information suitable for making decisions once it has been analyzed in some fashion. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:01    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,14:52) frequency = wavelength tree rings don't encode information ice isn't made of water. genetics supports YEC baraminology the Earth is young but made of old materials.     All this entertainment for free.   Quote-mining loser Tree rings are not a code. Trees are data recorders Ice and water are different. Ice is a solid and water is a liquid. Ice needs a minimum of 275 H2O molecules to begin to crystalize. You can have water below that. genetics support limited common descent which is consistent with the concept of baraminology In order to know how old the earth is you have to know how it was formed. Only using untestable assumptions can anyone say the earth is 4.5x billion years old (+/- 1 billion) Not that timmy the desperate coward will ever faithfully represent what I actually say.         -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:01    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,14:45) Tree ring widths are part of the data. You can't scan them and get some reading like we do actual barcodes. Yes dumbfuck, we can scan them like we do barcodes   Quote WinDendro Image Analysis for Plant Science The first step of tree-ring analysis is image acquisition. WinDENDRO has been designed and is optimised for optical scanners but can also analyse images from cameras and digital filmless x-ray systems. It can open image files produced by these hardware manufacturers programs (provided they are saved in a standard format such as jpeg or tiff), but most of the time WinDENDRO is used to acquire images directly from such devices (when they are TWAIN compatible*). Optical scanners are particularly well adapted for tree-rings analysis. They produce high quality images over large areas. WinDENDRO deals with scanners in a very efficient way. It has two methods of image acquisition for them, one is optimised for ease of use and requires just a mouse click to get an image. Time is saved in bypassing the standard "Preview" step (which can take tens of seconds per sample) and by using positioning accessories which allows to repetitively place the samples at the right place on the scanner. The other scanning method is more complex and powerful, it uses the Preview step to optimise the scanning parameters. After image acquisition, you indicate WinDENDRO where to measure rings in the image. This is done by tracing paths interactively. Straight line paths (such as those extending from a disk pith to bark) can be created automatically with a single mouse click (up to a few hundreds in a single click). More complex shape paths (see below) are created manually by clicking at different places After paths have been created, rings are automatically detected by WinDENDRO and their presence is indicated over the image with lines and text. Lines indicate the rings boundary position and orientation and the text indicates the year and ring number. Earlywood width can also be displayed along with other ring features (explained next). Close to the image, a profile of the light variations inside the path is also displayed along with ring and earlywood widths. This region is also used to adjust the sensitivity of the automatic ring detection. The sensitivity of this initial detection can be adjusted in function of the rings appearance. Narrow and low contrasts rings require more attention. One or two methods of ring detection are provided in function of the WinDENDRO software model. The first method is based on light intensity differences. It is simple, efficient and works fine for contrasted rings like those of conifers. The other ring detection method is called Teach & Show and is a method where you show to WinDENDRO what a tree ring is in the image so that it can automatically detect them after. This method is more computer intensive and is well adapted for low contrasted rings like those of deciduous trees. There are limits however and minimal contrast is required in order to get a good level of automatic detection. When contrast is too low, you can work in manual mode where you indicate the position of rings in the image by clicking them. Joke the dumbass strikes again!   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:05    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:01) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,14:45) Tree ring widths are part of the data. You can't scan them and get some reading like we do actual barcodes. Yes dumbfuck, we can scan them like we do barcodes   Quote WinDendro Image Analysis for Plant Science The first step of tree-ring analysis is image acquisition. WinDENDRO has been designed and is optimised for optical scanners but can also analyse images from cameras and digital filmless x-ray systems. It can open image files produced by these hardware manufacturers programs (provided they are saved in a standard format such as jpeg or tiff), but most of the time WinDENDRO is used to acquire images directly from such devices (when they are TWAIN compatible*). Optical scanners are particularly well adapted for tree-rings analysis. They produce high quality images over large areas. WinDENDRO deals with scanners in a very efficient way. It has two methods of image acquisition for them, one is optimised for ease of use and requires just a mouse click to get an image. Time is saved in bypassing the standard "Preview" step (which can take tens of seconds per sample) and by using positioning accessories which allows to repetitively place the samples at the right place on the scanner. The other scanning method is more complex and powerful, it uses the Preview step to optimise the scanning parameters. After image acquisition, you indicate WinDENDRO where to measure rings in the image. This is done by tracing paths interactively. Straight line paths (such as those extending from a disk pith to bark) can be created automatically with a single mouse click (up to a few hundreds in a single click). More complex shape paths (see below) are created manually by clicking at different places After paths have been created, rings are automatically detected by WinDENDRO and their presence is indicated over the image with lines and text. Lines indicate the rings boundary position and orientation and the text indicates the year and ring number. Earlywood width can also be displayed along with other ring features (explained next). Close to the image, a profile of the light variations inside the path is also displayed along with ring and earlywood widths. This region is also used to adjust the sensitivity of the automatic ring detection. The sensitivity of this initial detection can be adjusted in function of the rings appearance. Narrow and low contrasts rings require more attention. One or two methods of ring detection are provided in function of the WinDENDRO software model. The first method is based on light intensity differences. It is simple, efficient and works fine for contrasted rings like those of conifers. The other ring detection method is called Teach & Show and is a method where you show to WinDENDRO what a tree ring is in the image so that it can automatically detect them after. This method is more computer intensive and is well adapted for low contrasted rings like those of deciduous trees. There are limits however and minimal contrast is required in order to get a good level of automatic detection. When contrast is too low, you can work in manual mode where you indicate the position of rings in the image by clicking them. Joke the dumbass strikes again!   :D No, that is not like a barcode reading. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:08    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,14:54)   Quote It's the tree ring widths which encode information about the climate at the time they grew.   Quote Can't have encoding and decoding without a code Code code is a system of rules to convert information Notice there isn't any mention of tree rings on that page Data According to a common view, data is collected and analyzed; data only becomes information suitable for making decisions once it has been analyzed in some fashion. LOL!  From Joke's own link for code   Quote A code is a rule for converting a piece of information into another object or action, not necessarily of the same sort. And a definition of decode   Quote Decode:  to translate (data or a message) from a code into the original language or form. Scientists decode tree ring widths to get past climate data. Joke shits his pants and fails again!   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:08    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 29 2018,15:04) Dense and Dreary is the queen of irony. Do atheists find meaning in life from inventing fairy tales? Noah's Ark has a better chance at being true than materialism does. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:09    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,15:05)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:01)   Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,14:45) Tree ring widths are part of the data. You can't scan them and get some reading like we do actual barcodes. Yes dumbfuck, we can scan them like we do barcodes       Quote WinDendro Image Analysis for Plant Science The first step of tree-ring analysis is image acquisition. WinDENDRO has been designed and is optimised for optical scanners but can also analyse images from cameras and digital filmless x-ray systems. It can open image files produced by these hardware manufacturers programs (provided they are saved in a standard format such as jpeg or tiff), but most of the time WinDENDRO is used to acquire images directly from such devices (when they are TWAIN compatible*). Optical scanners are particularly well adapted for tree-rings analysis. They produce high quality images over large areas. WinDENDRO deals with scanners in a very efficient way. It has two methods of image acquisition for them, one is optimised for ease of use and requires just a mouse click to get an image. Time is saved in bypassing the standard "Preview" step (which can take tens of seconds per sample) and by using positioning accessories which allows to repetitively place the samples at the right place on the scanner. The other scanning method is more complex and powerful, it uses the Preview step to optimise the scanning parameters. After image acquisition, you indicate WinDENDRO where to measure rings in the image. This is done by tracing paths interactively. Straight line paths (such as those extending from a disk pith to bark) can be created automatically with a single mouse click (up to a few hundreds in a single click). More complex shape paths (see below) are created manually by clicking at different places After paths have been created, rings are automatically detected by WinDENDRO and their presence is indicated over the image with lines and text. Lines indicate the rings boundary position and orientation and the text indicates the year and ring number. Earlywood width can also be displayed along with other ring features (explained next). Close to the image, a profile of the light variations inside the path is also displayed along with ring and earlywood widths. This region is also used to adjust the sensitivity of the automatic ring detection. The sensitivity of this initial detection can be adjusted in function of the rings appearance. Narrow and low contrasts rings require more attention. One or two methods of ring detection are provided in function of the WinDENDRO software model. The first method is based on light intensity differences. It is simple, efficient and works fine for contrasted rings like those of conifers. The other ring detection method is called Teach & Show and is a method where you show to WinDENDRO what a tree ring is in the image so that it can automatically detect them after. This method is more computer intensive and is well adapted for low contrasted rings like those of deciduous trees. There are limits however and minimal contrast is required in order to get a good level of automatic detection. When contrast is too low, you can work in manual mode where you indicate the position of rings in the image by clicking them. Joke the dumbass strikes again!   No, that is not like a barcode reading. Oh dear, Joke shits his pants every time he's proven wrong.  The smell in his basement must be horrific. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:10    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:08) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,14:54)   Quote It's the tree ring widths which encode information about the climate at the time they grew.     Quote Can't have encoding and decoding without a code Code code is a system of rules to convert information Notice there isn't any mention of tree rings on that page Data According to a common view, data is collected and analyzed; data only becomes information suitable for making decisions once it has been analyzed in some fashion. LOL!  From Joke's own link for code   Quote A code is a rule for converting a piece of information into another object or action, not necessarily of the same sort. And a definition of decode   Quote Decode:  to translate (data or a message) from a code into the original language or form. Scientists decode tree ring widths to get past climate data. Joke shits his pants and fails again!   :D No, dipshit. Scientists analyze the data found in tree rings to get past climate data. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:11    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:09) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,15:05)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:01)     Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,14:45) Tree ring widths are part of the data. You can't scan them and get some reading like we do actual barcodes. Yes dumbfuck, we can scan them like we do barcodes       Quote WinDendro Image Analysis for Plant Science The first step of tree-ring analysis is image acquisition. WinDENDRO has been designed and is optimised for optical scanners but can also analyse images from cameras and digital filmless x-ray systems. It can open image files produced by these hardware manufacturers programs (provided they are saved in a standard format such as jpeg or tiff), but most of the time WinDENDRO is used to acquire images directly from such devices (when they are TWAIN compatible*). Optical scanners are particularly well adapted for tree-rings analysis. They produce high quality images over large areas. WinDENDRO deals with scanners in a very efficient way. It has two methods of image acquisition for them, one is optimised for ease of use and requires just a mouse click to get an image. Time is saved in bypassing the standard "Preview" step (which can take tens of seconds per sample) and by using positioning accessories which allows to repetitively place the samples at the right place on the scanner. The other scanning method is more complex and powerful, it uses the Preview step to optimise the scanning parameters. After image acquisition, you indicate WinDENDRO where to measure rings in the image. This is done by tracing paths interactively. Straight line paths (such as those extending from a disk pith to bark) can be created automatically with a single mouse click (up to a few hundreds in a single click). More complex shape paths (see below) are created manually by clicking at different places After paths have been created, rings are automatically detected by WinDENDRO and their presence is indicated over the image with lines and text. Lines indicate the rings boundary position and orientation and the text indicates the year and ring number. Earlywood width can also be displayed along with other ring features (explained next). Close to the image, a profile of the light variations inside the path is also displayed along with ring and earlywood widths. This region is also used to adjust the sensitivity of the automatic ring detection. The sensitivity of this initial detection can be adjusted in function of the rings appearance. Narrow and low contrasts rings require more attention. One or two methods of ring detection are provided in function of the WinDENDRO software model. The first method is based on light intensity differences. It is simple, efficient and works fine for contrasted rings like those of conifers. The other ring detection method is called Teach & Show and is a method where you show to WinDENDRO what a tree ring is in the image so that it can automatically detect them after. This method is more computer intensive and is well adapted for low contrasted rings like those of deciduous trees. There are limits however and minimal contrast is required in order to get a good level of automatic detection. When contrast is too low, you can work in manual mode where you indicate the position of rings in the image by clicking them. Joke the dumbass strikes again!   :D No, that is not like a barcode reading. Oh dear, Joke shits his pants every time he's proven wrong.  The smell in his basement must be horrific. It can't even tell you what type of tree it is. It scans the rings and analyzes them. That is not what a barcode reader does -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:12    Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 29 2018,15:12) If the country of Irony has her as its queen, I wouldn't want to go there. Oh, the irony! -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:16    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,15:10) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:08)   Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,14:54)     Quote It's the tree ring widths which encode information about the climate at the time they grew.       Quote Can't have encoding and decoding without a code Code code is a system of rules to convert information Notice there isn't any mention of tree rings on that page Data According to a common view, data is collected and analyzed; data only becomes information suitable for making decisions once it has been analyzed in some fashion. LOL!  From Joke's own link for code     Quote A code is a rule for converting a piece of information into another object or action, not necessarily of the same sort. And a definition of decode     Quote Decode:  to translate (data or a message) from a code into the original language or form. Scientists decode tree ring widths to get past climate data. Joke shits his pants and fails again!   No, dipshit. Scientists analyze the data found in tree rings to get past climate data. They DECODE the ring patterns to get the information dumbfuck Quote Tree ring analysis as an ecological tool: a review of dendrochronological variables Abstract:  Tree ring analysis has to contribute valuable data for ecological diagnoses and evaluations. To decode the information in tree ring patterns, dendrochronology is extending largely the amount of descriptors. Apart from variables at the macroscopic level, numerous variables at the wood anatomical and chemical level already have been proposed in literature. Tree ring variables are reviewed, illustrating their particular relevance with some examples. Dumbass. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:18    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,15:11)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:09)     Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,15:05)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:01)         Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,14:45) Tree ring widths are part of the data. You can't scan them and get some reading like we do actual barcodes. Yes dumbfuck, we can scan them like we do barcodes           Quote WinDendro Image Analysis for Plant Science The first step of tree-ring analysis is image acquisition. WinDENDRO has been designed and is optimised for optical scanners but can also analyse images from cameras and digital filmless x-ray systems. It can open image files produced by these hardware manufacturers programs (provided they are saved in a standard format such as jpeg or tiff), but most of the time WinDENDRO is used to acquire images directly from such devices (when they are TWAIN compatible*). Optical scanners are particularly well adapted for tree-rings analysis. They produce high quality images over large areas. WinDENDRO deals with scanners in a very efficient way. It has two methods of image acquisition for them, one is optimised for ease of use and requires just a mouse click to get an image. Time is saved in bypassing the standard "Preview" step (which can take tens of seconds per sample) and by using positioning accessories which allows to repetitively place the samples at the right place on the scanner. The other scanning method is more complex and powerful, it uses the Preview step to optimise the scanning parameters. After image acquisition, you indicate WinDENDRO where to measure rings in the image. This is done by tracing paths interactively. Straight line paths (such as those extending from a disk pith to bark) can be created automatically with a single mouse click (up to a few hundreds in a single click). More complex shape paths (see below) are created manually by clicking at different places After paths have been created, rings are automatically detected by WinDENDRO and their presence is indicated over the image with lines and text. Lines indicate the rings boundary position and orientation and the text indicates the year and ring number. Earlywood width can also be displayed along with other ring features (explained next). Close to the image, a profile of the light variations inside the path is also displayed along with ring and earlywood widths. This region is also used to adjust the sensitivity of the automatic ring detection. The sensitivity of this initial detection can be adjusted in function of the rings appearance. Narrow and low contrasts rings require more attention. One or two methods of ring detection are provided in function of the WinDENDRO software model. The first method is based on light intensity differences. It is simple, efficient and works fine for contrasted rings like those of conifers. The other ring detection method is called Teach & Show and is a method where you show to WinDENDRO what a tree ring is in the image so that it can automatically detect them after. This method is more computer intensive and is well adapted for low contrasted rings like those of deciduous trees. There are limits however and minimal contrast is required in order to get a good level of automatic detection. When contrast is too low, you can work in manual mode where you indicate the position of rings in the image by clicking them. Joke the dumbass strikes again!   No, that is not like a barcode reading. Oh dear, Joke shits his pants every time he's proven wrong.  The smell in his basement must be horrific. It can't even tell you what type of tree it is. It scans the rings and analyzes them. That is not what a barcode reader does The software scans the rings and extracts information the way barcodes are scanned. Go clean the shit out of your pants Joke, you're really starting to stink. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:59    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:16) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,15:10)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:08)   Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,14:54)       Quote It's the tree ring widths which encode information about the climate at the time they grew.       Quote Can't have encoding and decoding without a code Code code is a system of rules to convert information Notice there isn't any mention of tree rings on that page Data According to a common view, data is collected and analyzed; data only becomes information suitable for making decisions once it has been analyzed in some fashion. LOL!  From Joke's own link for code       Quote A code is a rule for converting a piece of information into another object or action, not necessarily of the same sort. And a definition of decode       Quote Decode:  to translate (data or a message) from a code into the original language or form. Scientists decode tree ring widths to get past climate data. Joke shits his pants and fails again!   :D No, dipshit. Scientists analyze the data found in tree rings to get past climate data. They DECODE the ring patterns to get the information dumbfuck   Quote Tree ring analysis as an ecological tool: a review of dendrochronological variables Abstract:  Tree ring analysis has to contribute valuable data for ecological diagnoses and evaluations. To decode the information in tree ring patterns, dendrochronology is extending largely the amount of descriptors. Apart from variables at the macroscopic level, numerous variables at the wood anatomical and chemical level already have been proposed in literature. Tree ring variables are reviewed, illustrating their particular relevance with some examples. Dumbass. There isn't any code to decode, moron. And there is data in tree rings, not information. That data has to be analyzed and then it becomes data once meaning has been added. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,16:01    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:18) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,15:11)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:09)     Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,15:05)         Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:01)         Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,14:45) Tree ring widths are part of the data. You can't scan them and get some reading like we do actual barcodes. Yes dumbfuck, we can scan them like we do barcodes             Quote WinDendro Image Analysis for Plant Science The first step of tree-ring analysis is image acquisition. WinDENDRO has been designed and is optimised for optical scanners but can also analyse images from cameras and digital filmless x-ray systems. It can open image files produced by these hardware manufacturers programs (provided they are saved in a standard format such as jpeg or tiff), but most of the time WinDENDRO is used to acquire images directly from such devices (when they are TWAIN compatible*). Optical scanners are particularly well adapted for tree-rings analysis. They produce high quality images over large areas. WinDENDRO deals with scanners in a very efficient way. It has two methods of image acquisition for them, one is optimised for ease of use and requires just a mouse click to get an image. Time is saved in bypassing the standard "Preview" step (which can take tens of seconds per sample) and by using positioning accessories which allows to repetitively place the samples at the right place on the scanner. The other scanning method is more complex and powerful, it uses the Preview step to optimise the scanning parameters. After image acquisition, you indicate WinDENDRO where to measure rings in the image. This is done by tracing paths interactively. Straight line paths (such as those extending from a disk pith to bark) can be created automatically with a single mouse click (up to a few hundreds in a single click). More complex shape paths (see below) are created manually by clicking at different places After paths have been created, rings are automatically detected by WinDENDRO and their presence is indicated over the image with lines and text. Lines indicate the rings boundary position and orientation and the text indicates the year and ring number. Earlywood width can also be displayed along with other ring features (explained next). Close to the image, a profile of the light variations inside the path is also displayed along with ring and earlywood widths. This region is also used to adjust the sensitivity of the automatic ring detection. The sensitivity of this initial detection can be adjusted in function of the rings appearance. Narrow and low contrasts rings require more attention. One or two methods of ring detection are provided in function of the WinDENDRO software model. The first method is based on light intensity differences. It is simple, efficient and works fine for contrasted rings like those of conifers. The other ring detection method is called Teach & Show and is a method where you show to WinDENDRO what a tree ring is in the image so that it can automatically detect them after. This method is more computer intensive and is well adapted for low contrasted rings like those of deciduous trees. There are limits however and minimal contrast is required in order to get a good level of automatic detection. When contrast is too low, you can work in manual mode where you indicate the position of rings in the image by clicking them. Joke the dumbass strikes again!   :D No, that is not like a barcode reading. Oh dear, Joke shits his pants every time he's proven wrong.  The smell in his basement must be horrific. It can't even tell you what type of tree it is. It scans the rings and analyzes them. That is not what a barcode reader does The software scans the rings and extracts information the way barcodes are scanned. Go clean the shit out of your pants Joke, you're really starting to stink. What they are doing is nothing like what a barcode is. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,16:06    tree rings not listed as a bar code -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,16:07    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,15:59) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:16)   Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,15:10)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:08)     Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,14:54)         Quote It's the tree ring widths which encode information about the climate at the time they grew.         Quote Can't have encoding and decoding without a code Code code is a system of rules to convert information Notice there isn't any mention of tree rings on that page Data According to a common view, data is collected and analyzed; data only becomes information suitable for making decisions once it has been analyzed in some fashion. LOL!  From Joke's own link for code         Quote A code is a rule for converting a piece of information into another object or action, not necessarily of the same sort. And a definition of decode         Quote Decode:  to translate (data or a message) from a code into the original language or form. Scientists decode tree ring widths to get past climate data. Joke shits his pants and fails again!   No, dipshit. Scientists analyze the data found in tree rings to get past climate data. They DECODE the ring patterns to get the information dumbfuck     Quote Tree ring analysis as an ecological tool: a review of dendrochronological variables Abstract:  Tree ring analysis has to contribute valuable data for ecological diagnoses and evaluations. To decode the information in tree ring patterns, dendrochronology is extending largely the amount of descriptors. Apart from variables at the macroscopic level, numerous variables at the wood anatomical and chemical level already have been proposed in literature. Tree ring variables are reviewed, illustrating their particular relevance with some examples. Dumbass. There isn't any code to decode, That's why all the scientists say they're DECODING the tree ring information, because there's nothing to decode.   Every day you say dumb things even more stupid than the day before. Dumbass. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,16:11    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,16:06) tree rings not listed as a bar code Only a dumbfuck like Joke thinks tree rings ARE barcode.  The fact is there is software which reads and interprets tree rings just like bar codes are read and interpreted. Joe Gallien, the dumbest human ever to set pudgy grease-stained fingers to keyboard.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,16:24    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,16:07) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,15:59)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:16)   Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,15:10)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,15:08)       Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,14:54)         Quote It's the tree ring widths which encode information about the climate at the time they grew.           Quote Can't have encoding and decoding without a code Code code is a system of rules to convert information Notice there isn't any mention of tree rings on that page Data According to a common view, data is collected and analyzed; data only becomes information suitable for making decisions once it has been analyzed in some fashion. LOL!  From Joke's own link for code         Quote A code is a rule for converting a piece of information into another object or action, not necessarily of the same sort. And a definition of decode         Quote Decode:  to translate (data or a message) from a code into the original language or form. Scientists decode tree ring widths to get past climate data. Joke shits his pants and fails again!   :D No, dipshit. Scientists analyze the data found in tree rings to get past climate data. They DECODE the ring patterns to get the information dumbfuck     Quote Tree ring analysis as an ecological tool: a review of dendrochronological variables Abstract:  Tree ring analysis has to contribute valuable data for ecological diagnoses and evaluations. To decode the information in tree ring patterns, dendrochronology is extending largely the amount of descriptors. Apart from variables at the macroscopic level, numerous variables at the wood anatomical and chemical level already have been proposed in literature. Tree ring variables are reviewed, illustrating their particular relevance with some examples. Dumbass. There isn't any code to decode, That's why all the scientists say they're DECODING the tree ring information, because there's nothing to decode.  :D Every day you say dumb things even more stupid than the day before. Dumbass. Look, moron, in order to encode information- your words- into the tree rings what code is used? In order to get the information from the tree rings what code is used? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,16:25    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 29 2018,16:11) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2018,16:06) tree rings not listed as a bar code Only a dumbfuck like Joke thinks tree rings ARE barcode.  The fact is there is software which reads and interprets tree rings just like bar codes are read and interpreted. Joe Gallien, the dumbest human ever to set pudgy grease-stained fingers to keyboard.  :D You said it, dumbass. And the fact is the software that reads tree rings is nothing like the software that reads bar codes. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,16:27    Again, scientists are not decoding anything. They are analyzing the data. Huge difference. Do people analyze Morse code or the genetic code? No, they actually decode those -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

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