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Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: June 26 2018,18:33    Quote (k.e.. @ June 26 2018,10:39) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 26 2018,18:26) Not that anyone cares but Joke Gallien (ET) just showed back up in the Climate Change thread, pushing his same "CO2 doesn't trap heat" stupidity.   :) This time it's   Quote Joke: "Because CO2 does NOT cause an increase in temps. It just causes the heat to stay around a little longer. That alone is enough to skew the average daily temps making it appear warmer." Got that?  CO2 doesn't trap heat, it just makes it stay around longer.  That makes the average temperature warmer but it doesn't count because, you know, because. What an idiot. Yeah well since Joe doesn't think ice is water he can just say maybe it just will move around and appear somewhere else. Gawd he can't even agree with his own mouth/fingers. But Mars caps and atmosphere are mostly CO2, and it is damn cold there. Therefore, CO2 cane cause global warming. It’s really quite simple.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 26 2018,19:41    And never mind that Mars is 1.524 times as far from the sun as Earth! I'd ask what that does to the amount of sunlight it gets, but it'd take a square to answer that question.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 26 2018,19:47    Quote (Henry J @ June 26 2018,19:41) And never mind that Mars is 1.524 times as far from the sun as Earth! I'd ask what that does to the amount of sunlight it gets, but it'd take a square to answer that question. Henry just shut the fuck up.  Your comments aren't funny or witty.  You're like the asshole class clown in high school who had to say something, anything, just to get noticed.  Put a fucking sock in it already. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 26 2018,21:45    Well it worked, didn't it?

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2018,03:57    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 26 2018,14:47)   Quote (Henry J @ June 26 2018,19:41) And never mind that Mars is 1.524 times as far from the sun as Earth! I'd ask what that does to the amount of sunlight it gets, but it'd take a square to answer that question. Henry just shut the fuck up.  Your comments aren't funny or witty.  You're like the asshole class clown in high school who had to say something, anything, just to get noticed.  Put a fucking sock in it already.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2018,07:48    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 26 2018,11:26) Not that anyone cares but Joke Gallien (ET) just showed back up in the Climate Change thread, pushing his same "CO2 doesn't trap heat" stupidity.   :) This time it's Quote Joke: "Because CO2 does NOT cause an increase in temps. It just causes the heat to stay around a little longer. That alone is enough to skew the average daily temps making it appear warmer." Got that?  CO2 doesn't trap heat, it just makes it stay around longer.  That makes the average temperature warmer but it doesn't count because, you know, because. What an idiot. on babylon 5 Londo was describing Joe when he said,  “Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in one package! How efficient of you!”

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2018,07:51    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 26 2018,20:47) Quote (Henry J @ June 26 2018,19:41) And never mind that Mars is 1.524 times as far from the sun as Earth! I'd ask what that does to the amount of sunlight it gets, but it'd take a square to answer that question. Henry just shut the fuck up.  Your comments aren't funny or witty.  You're like the asshole class clown in high school who had to say something, anything, just to get noticed.  Put a fucking sock in it already. uh...?

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 28 2018,07:08    Quote (stevestory @ June 27 2018,15:51) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 26 2018,20:47)   Quote (Henry J @ June 26 2018,19:41) And never mind that Mars is 1.524 times as far from the sun as Earth! I'd ask what that does to the amount of sunlight it gets, but it'd take a square to answer that question. Henry just shut the fuck up.  Your comments aren't funny or witty.  You're like the asshole class clown in high school who had to say something, anything, just to get noticed.  Put a fucking sock in it already. uh...? A case of mistaken irony on H's part. Grasping the nettle and not the horn. Being caught by the butt of a joke with a literal reply. Missing the point by a wide margin. Taking a tin ear to a tinnitus party. Etc etc ps. (At the risk of laboring at point) Jumping to an unfounded conclusion. Tripping the light fantastic at a Samba School. Missing the point by a wide margin. Schooling grandma in School. Adding nought to a sum. Inadvertently assisting the away team. Ducking class and hoping for learning by osmosis. Still enjoy the puns though. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 28 2018,08:12    I still have no idea what happened there.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 28 2018,12:43    Quote 101 Bob O'HJune 28, 2018 at 8:59 am kf @ 93 – Your post at 78 is a nice illustration of the problem. You are asked a direct question, and you don’t even attempt to answer it. Instead we get a wall of text about a “generally framed warrant for oughtness” (whatever that is!). Rather than provide an answer, you end up arguing (as far as I can tell – your language is convoluted) that you can’t make a moral judgment because you disagree with someone else’s views on morals. Hehehehehehehe

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 28 2018,12:45    Vroomfondel demands rigidly-defined areas of doubt and uncertainty. eta correct philosopher's name -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 29 2018,08:22    Quote (stevestory @ June 28 2018,20:43) Quote 101 Bob O'HJune 28, 2018 at 8:59 am kf @ 93 – Your post at 78 is a nice illustration of the problem. You are asked a direct question, and you don’t even attempt to answer it. Instead we get a wall of text about a “generally framed warrant for oughtness” (whatever that is!). Rather than provide an answer, you end up arguing (as far as I can tell – your language is convoluted) that you can’t make a moral judgment because you disagree with someone else’s views on morals. Hehehehehehehe Seems kf is having difficulty with reality. Up thread he's complaining he couldn't board a plane to some other mosquito infested island in the Caribbean with his drivers license and got into a protracted argument with a bureaucrat and lost, presumably not flying. It also seems he doesn't have a valid passport since he makes reference to a passport application. Kf seems to be living in a world dominated by his own imaginary theocratic government that can't even board a plane like normal people. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 29 2018,09:04    Quote Up thread he's complaining he couldn't board a plane to some other mosquito infested island in the Caribbean with his drivers license and got into a protracted argument with a bureaucrat and lost, Everyone who's worked in retail or on a wait staff knows exactly what kind of idiot Gordon is.

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 29 2018,11:17    Quote (stevestory @ June 29 2018,07:04) Quote Up thread he's complaining he couldn't board a plane to some other mosquito infested island in the Caribbean with his drivers license and got into a protracted argument with a bureaucrat and lost, Everyone who's worked in retail or on a wait staff knows exactly what kind of idiot Gordon is. - DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHO I AM? - Are you that nutter with the sign outside the post office? -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 29 2018,11:49    I had a really stupid hillbilly relative a couple decades ago who got a telemarketing call asking him to subscribe to the Gainesville Sun. He went off to the person on the other end for several minutes about how LIBRAL the Gainesville Sun was and how STUPID LIBRALS are, and how they ain't never cover nothin fairly cuz LIBRAL and he'd subscribe to them if they'd stop bein so LIBRAL and on and on and on. For like ten minutes. And when he hung up he was pleased with himself because he really told that Gainesville Sun person what's what, and boy he chewed that guy out so much I bet he'll tell the boss and he'd see how much money he's losin bein so LIBRAL etc etc. ...because he was too dumb to understand he wasn't talking to anyone at the Gainesville Sun, he wasn't even talking to anyone who would ever talk to the Gainesville Sun, he was talking to some poor schmuck at a call center who gets paid $10/hr to read a script, and all he accomplished with his ten minute rant was to make a total stranger hate life slightly more. That's the kinda idiot Gordon is.

Lethean Posts: 292 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: June 29 2018,14:37    Quote (JohnW @ June 29 2018,11:17)     Quote (stevestory @ June 29 2018,07:04)       Quote Up thread he's complaining he couldn't board a plane to some other mosquito infested island in the Caribbean with his drivers license and got into a protracted argument with a bureaucrat and lost, Everyone who's worked in retail or on a wait staff knows exactly what kind of idiot Gordon is. - DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHO I AM? - Are you that nutter with the sign outside the post office? Haven't had the opportunity to use it yet but my holstered response to that inquiry is - The load your mother shoulda swallowed? -------------- "So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance." "My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it." ~Dave Hawkins~

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 29 2018,16:39    HAHAHAHAHAA Oh god KF is a tard. Quote 108 Bob O'H June 29, 2018 at 2:20 pm kf – perhaps if you had simply written “that is a loaded question, so I am not going to answer it” things might have been clearer. At least then we would have known why you were refusing to answer it. I’m afraid your writing is often obtuse: I appreciate that you understand what you write, but I suspect for most readers it is almost opaque. If you think there is a problem because both sides have widely differing views, so can’t understand each other, I think the solution is to try to bridge that gap, rather than refusing to do anything other than accusing the other side of being wrong, and saying they should sort it out. if you don’t want to discuss, fine. But if you do, the onus on you to find common ground. Reasonable comment by Bob, right? Succinct, clear, to the point. KairosDoofus replies Quote 109 kairosfocusJune 29, 2018 at 2:46 pm BO’H: Nope,... and then goes on for 3,368 more words. That poor dummy is hopeless. linky

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 29 2018,16:45    at the rate the average person reads it would take 16 minutes to read KairosDoofus's reply.

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 29 2018,17:42    Quote (stevestory @ June 29 2018,14:45) at the rate the average person reads it would take 16 minutes to read KairosDoofus's reply. :p  :p  :p At the level of bullshit the average person tolerates it would take 16 seconds to give up. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 30 2018,07:51    since then he has added, i'm not kidding, 3,254 more words. So for the record, since Bob wrote that KF's writing was unclear and opaque (and, earlier, a "wall of text") KF has replied with 6,622 words. This guy would need a promotion to be a moron.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 30 2018,07:59    Quote (stevestory @ June 30 2018,00:39) HAHAHAHAHAA Oh god KF is a tard. Quote 108 Bob O'H June 29, 2018 at 2:20 pm kf – perhaps if you had simply written “that is a loaded question, so I am not going to answer it” things might have been clearer. At least then we would have known why you were refusing to answer it. I’m afraid your writing is often obtuse: I appreciate that you understand what you write, but I suspect for most readers it is almost opaque. If you think there is a problem because both sides have widely differing views, so can’t understand each other, I think the solution is to try to bridge that gap, rather than refusing to do anything other than accusing the other side of being wrong, and saying they should sort it out. if you don’t want to discuss, fine. But if you do, the onus on you to find common ground. Reasonable comment by Bob, right? Succinct, clear, to the point. KairosDoofus replies Quote 109 kairosfocusJune 29, 2018 at 2:46 pm BO’H: Nope,... and then goes on for 3,368 more words. That poor dummy is hopeless. linky In a word hypomanic. An inflated self-esteem or grandiosity, more talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking, flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing, distractibility (e.g., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli). Maybe not full blown yet but if his sleep patterns are severely disrupted and he's not getting Mrs. Mullings to change his oil he's up a creek without a paddle. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: June 30 2018,10:10    Quote (k.e.. @ June 30 2018,07:59) Quote (stevestory @ June 30 2018,00:39) HAHAHAHAHAA Oh god KF is a tard.   Quote 108 Bob O'H June 29, 2018 at 2:20 pm kf – perhaps if you had simply written “that is a loaded question, so I am not going to answer it” things might have been clearer. At least then we would have known why you were refusing to answer it. I’m afraid your writing is often obtuse: I appreciate that you understand what you write, but I suspect for most readers it is almost opaque. If you think there is a problem because both sides have widely differing views, so can’t understand each other, I think the solution is to try to bridge that gap, rather than refusing to do anything other than accusing the other side of being wrong, and saying they should sort it out. if you don’t want to discuss, fine. But if you do, the onus on you to find common ground. Reasonable comment by Bob, right? Succinct, clear, to the point. KairosDoofus replies   Quote 109 kairosfocusJune 29, 2018 at 2:46 pm BO’H: Nope,... and then goes on for 3,368 more words. That poor dummy is hopeless. linky In a word hypomanic. An inflated self-esteem or grandiosity, more talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking, flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing, distractibility (e.g., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli). Maybe not full blown yet but if his sleep patterns are severely disrupted and he's not getting Mrs. Mullings to change his oil he's up a creek without a paddle. Mullings does not have sex for pleasure. That is a sin.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 30 2018,16:34    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 30 2018,18:10) Quote (k.e.. @ June 30 2018,07:59) Quote (stevestory @ June 30 2018,00:39) HAHAHAHAHAA Oh god KF is a tard.   Quote 108 Bob O'H June 29, 2018 at 2:20 pm kf – perhaps if you had simply written “that is a loaded question, so I am not going to answer it” things might have been clearer. At least then we would have known why you were refusing to answer it. I’m afraid your writing is often obtuse: I appreciate that you understand what you write, but I suspect for most readers it is almost opaque. If you think there is a problem because both sides have widely differing views, so can’t understand each other, I think the solution is to try to bridge that gap, rather than refusing to do anything other than accusing the other side of being wrong, and saying they should sort it out. if you don’t want to discuss, fine. But if you do, the onus on you to find common ground. Reasonable comment by Bob, right? Succinct, clear, to the point. KairosDoofus replies   Quote 109 kairosfocusJune 29, 2018 at 2:46 pm BO’H: Nope,... and then goes on for 3,368 more words. That poor dummy is hopeless. linky In a word hypomanic. An inflated self-esteem or grandiosity, more talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking, flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing, distractibility (e.g., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli). Maybe not full blown yet but if his sleep patterns are severely disrupted and he's not getting Mrs. Mullings to change his oil he's up a creek without a paddle. Mullings does not have sex for pleasure. That is a sin. His organ solos on UD are a sin. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 30 2018,16:44    Quote 1 Nonlin.org June 30, 2018 at 11:38 am Hey News, What about this topic: link to neurologica blog post Of course the guy is incoherent, bitter and rejecting any criticism like this:   Quote “From everything we know about brain function, our experience of our own existence … are largely a constructed illusion… The brain is still a machine, and is dependent upon the laws of physics.” Actually, you don’t know much and you misinterpret what you see. In fact, all you have is a bad “brain model” – are you’re smart enough to understand this? You don’t know the brain is “a machine” and most certainly don’t know “the laws of physics”. You have a big problem if you must “divorce our abstract thinking from our practical and emotional thinking about our lives”. That simply means one is wrong (yes, that’s your abstract thinking). Are you smart enough to understand this? Here’s where your logic fails: {link to nonlin's stupid site} 1) nonlin screwed up the blockquote so it's hard to comment on this. 2) nonlin is calling Steven Novella "incoherent, bitter and rejecting any criticism". Have you ever heard the Skeptic's Guide to the Universe podcast? That's Steven Novella. He's been doing it for 13 years. It's one of the most successful podcasts in the world. And he's a clinical neurologist at the Yale University School of Medicine. Incoherent? Edited by stevestory on June 30 2018,17:47

Lethean Posts: 292 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: June 30 2018,22:26    It's been a couple of years but I used to listen to SGTTU and read Novella's blog on the regular and he's pretty much the opposite of what nonlin asserts, or rather, projects. nonlin's nonsense is nothing new nor surprising. "They" don't know everything therefore all the shit I'd like to believe is not only possible but must be true because "they" haven't disproved it yet. Also, "they" just don't want to believe because yadda yadda yadda. That's pretty much his shtick. I caught a bunch of nonlin's fractally wrong crap over at Pingu's place and time after time I saw him demonstrate he doesn't even grasp some of the basic concepts he rails against. The dude is tiresome. When he showed up I was already tired of mung and bill cole and jmac and the routine of the intellectually dishonest trolling idiocy. In a way he added to the "last straw" and I quit lurking there at all. -------------- "So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance." "My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it." ~Dave Hawkins~

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 01 2018,08:14    Quote (Lethean @ July 01 2018,06:26) It's been a couple of years but I used to listen to SGTTU and read Novella's blog on the regular and he's pretty much the opposite of what nonlin asserts, or rather, projects. nonlin's nonsense is nothing new nor surprising. "They" don't know everything therefore all the shit I'd like to believe is not only possible but must be true because "they" haven't disproved it yet. Also, "they" just don't want to believe because yadda yadda yadda. That's pretty much his shtick. I caught a bunch of nonlin's fractally wrong crap over at Pingu's place and time after time I saw him demonstrate he doesn't even grasp some of the basic concepts he rails against. The dude is tiresome. When he showed up I was already tired of mung and bill cole and jmac and the routine of the intellectually dishonest trolling idiocy. In a way he added to the "last straw" and I quit lurking there at all. Tard heaven is hell. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2018,03:34    Hmm - quiet over there and here - is most of Merrika on some sort of extra extra long weekend with 4th of July being on a Wednesday this year? Anyway, this gave me a smile - BA77 has posted a couple of consecutive comments on the "Neuroscientist: Free will is an illusion…” thread. They comprise over 3,000 words his usual dense prose wandering over several topics, and with numerous links including one back to UD and two to his own YouTube videos. So it's business as usual at UD, although in a great piece of product placement kairosfocus immediately follows up with:           Quote 5 kairosfocus  July 2, 2018 at 5:30 am The self-referential incoherence is now undeniable. UD link Edited by Ptaylor on July 03 2018,21:11 -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2018,09:03    Quote (Ptaylor @ July 03 2018,01:34) Hmm - quiet over there and here - is most of Merrika on some sort of extra extra long weekend with 4th of July being on a Wednesday this year? Anyway, this gave me a smile - BA77 has posted a couple of consecutive comments on the "Neuroscientist: Free will is an illusion…” thread. They comprise over 3,000 words his usual dense prose wandering over several topics, and with numerous links including one back to UD and two to his own YouTube videos. So it's business as usual at UD, although in a great piece of product placement kairosfocus immediately follows up with:             Quote 5 kairosfocus  July 2, 2018 at 5:30 am The self-referential incoherence is now undeniable. UD link I heard that was going to be the title of the next Nirvana album. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2018,11:30    Quote (fnxtr @ July 03 2018,17:03) Quote (Ptaylor @ July 03 2018,01:34) Hmm - quiet over there and here - is most of Merrika on some sort of extra extra long weekend with 4th of July being on a Wednesday this year? Anyway, this gave me a smile - BA77 has posted a couple of consecutive comments on the "Neuroscientist: Free will is an illusion…” thread. They comprise over 3,000 words his usual dense prose wandering over several topics, and with numerous links including one back to UD and two to his own YouTube videos. So it's business as usual at UD, although in a great piece of product placement kairosfocus immediately follows up with:               Quote 5 kairosfocus  July 2, 2018 at 5:30 am The self-referential incoherence is now undeniable. UD link I heard that was going to be the title of the next Nirvana album. Or Nietzsche's abyss. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2018,13:56    Quote New book from Michael Behe on how today’s DNA findings “devolve” Darwin July 3, 2018 Posted by News under Darwinism, Evolution, Genetics, Genomics, Intelligent Design Fuck zat supposed to mean? linky

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