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The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: April 12 2015,08:13    Quote (Zachriel @ April 12 2015,05:39) On a thread Barry Arrington started about torturing babies: Quote Barry Arrington: You are a fool, an arrogant and tiresome one at that, which is a very toxic combination. You think you are so smart and sophisticated. Any ten year-old would know you are an idiot. Someone ought to ban that person! The comment by Graham2 at number 30 cracked me up. banny arrogant and the other thumpers are displaying their two-faced christian "moral standard". To see "psychopaths", all they need to do is look at a mirror. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 12 2015,09:14    Quote (The whole truth @ April 11 2015,23:52) Quote (Texas Teach @ April 11 2015,21:24) Quote (The whole truth @ April 11 2015,23:05)   Quote (Texas Teach @ April 11 2015,18:31)     Quote (The whole truth @ April 11 2015,19:45) Among other things, slimy sal demonstrates how utterly stupid he is when it comes to fossils: "4. The age of the fossil (really time of death of the fossils) is not strictly speaking a YEC issue, it is not an age-of-the-universe issue, it is a time of death issue. Empirical evidence strongly argues the fossil record is recent, not old. Short time frames favor ID over evolution, and hence evolutionary theory, as stated is likely wrong. The time of death of the fossils is recent and independent of the radiometric ages of the rocks they are buried in. A living dog today could be buried in 65 million year old rocks, it doesn’t imply the dog died 65 million years ago after we exhume it. Follow the evidence where it leads, and the evidence says the fossils died more recently than evolutionists claim. C14 traces are ubiquitous in the carboniferous era, and the best explanation is recency in the time of death of fossils." Part of comment number 11, here: http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....ability I'd really like to see Sal try to "bury" something in rock. Yeah, me too, and I'd like to see him find "living dog" fossils in situ in Cretaceous rocks/sediments. I seriously doubt that he has ever found any fossils anywhere in his entire ignorant life. Slimy sal has apparently never seen nor heard the term in situ while going through all that skoolin' he's so proud of, and he must think it's impossible to tell when fossils are actually from the sedimentary layer they're found in. Hey slimy sal, if you're reading this, I have a suggestion: Go to Wyoming and actually look for and find fossils. Spend at least a few years there and search many of the exposed formations. Start with the Big Horn Basin and the surrounding mountains. Go ahead, you incredibly stupid and arrogant YEC IDiot-creationist. See if you can find any "living dog" fossils in Cretaceous or other very old rocks/sediments. You'd be lucky to survive a for a whole day, let alone find any fossils. I fairly certain his head would explode when he passed one of the road signs that show you the age of a particular layer. We passed several of those on our way to/from Yellowstone last summer. In Wind River Canyon, between Shoshoni and Thermopolis? There are signs like you described there. Those signs must irritate the shit out of YECs who drive through the canyon. :) http://thermopoliswyoming.blogspot.com/2009.......-3.html Definitely saw those.  There was road work that slowed us to a crawl, so we got to take a good look.  I couldn't imagine those going up down here.  (Not that we have the rocks for it.) -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Soapy Sam Posts: 659 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: April 12 2015,11:05    Quote (Zachriel @ April 12 2015,13:00) Quote (Zachriel @ April 11 2015,14:34) We posted this comment, but it was put into moderation.     Quote Barry Arrington: Zachriel absolutely refuses to address the OP and set forth step by step how the analysis is flaws. Barry asked a question {in the original post}, is it possible to imagine a universe in which torturing an infant to death for personal pleasure is actually an affirmatively good thing? In order to answer the question, we asked for clarification by posing a pertinent question going to the heart of what is meant by subjectivism. According to whom? We posted several comments and they showed as in moderation, but have since disappeared. Apparently, when Barry says moderation, he means the posts will be deleted. The ban occurred on a post called "MF Runs Away; Anyone Else Care to Play?" Quote “Z: There’s no way to determine that from mahuna’s comment.” BA: It really is astonishing how stupid some of the things you say are. Into the moderation box for a while. Heh heh. Unless and until you admit that I'm right and you're wrong, I will continue to shake the playing field like a hessian rug. Anyone else want to play? -------------- SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

Kantian Naturalist Posts: 72 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: April 12 2015,12:13    The main reason I stopped commenting at Uncommon Descent is that I realized that their modus operandi of all conversations there is, "we will not recognize you as worthy of rational dialogue until you agree with our position".  This became quite clear in the debate with Liddle that resulted in her becoming banned, and now we see Mark Frank being given the same treatment. It's always the same script. If one isn't a theist (really a Christian, though they tolerate Jews as long as they're on the right-wing side of the culture war, and they're a lot more Islamophobic than they realize), then one either confused or a "materialist".  If one is a "materialist", then necessarily one believes ___ is obviously ("self-evidently") beyond the pale of reasonable discourse.  Such people are merely tolerated until Barry tires of them, and they are banned.   Also worth pointing out is that they deliberately seize upon the most extreme representatives of "materialism".  Alex Rosenberg is their current favorite, and yes -- his views are extreme. That's why they like to cite him, but never criticisms of Rosenberg coming from other naturalists -- like Dennett or Kitcher.  (For the curious: Dennett's criticism of Rosenberg is published as an essay in Contemporary Philosophical Naturalism and Its Implications and Kitcher's criticism of Rosenberg is in his review of Rosenberg for the New York Times.) It's not merely that they don't know that Dennett and Kitcher are critical of Rosenberg -- that's mere ignorance, and is quite forgivable. It's rather that they don't want to know, because that would introduce more complexity and nuance into their conception of contemporary naturalism. That's not mere ignorance, but willful ignorance.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 12 2015,16:53    I give anyone the right to believe six impossible things before breskfast. When someone insists I believe their list of fantasies, that's pretty much the end of the conversation. And I have no reason to to doubt that the other person sees my verities as fantasies. I have no problem with a creationist refusing to engage me (or anyone i consider an ally)  but the banning business is juvenile. Even infantile. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

paragwinn Posts: 539 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 12 2015,17:19    Quote (Kantian Naturalist @ April 12 2015,10:13) It's not merely that they don't know that Dennett and Kitcher are critical of Rosenberg -- that's mere ignorance, and is quite forgivable. It's rather that they don't want to know, because that would introduce more complexity and nuance into their conception of contemporary naturalism. That's not mere ignorance, but willful ignorance. For people who constantly harp on the origin and discernment of complexity in nature, the UDers, with certain exceptions, make great effort to shy away from dealing with the complexity in issues they themselves raise. -------------- All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11 F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11 Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

paragwinn Posts: 539 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 12 2015,17:42    Quote (Kantian Naturalist @ April 12 2015,10:13) Also worth pointing out is that they deliberately seize upon the most extreme representatives of "materialism".  Alex Rosenberg is their current favorite, and yes -- his views are extreme. That's why they like to cite him, but never criticisms of Rosenberg coming from other naturalists -- like Dennett or Kitcher.  (For the curious: Dennett's criticism of Rosenberg is published as an essay in Contemporary Philosophical Naturalism and Its Implications and Kitcher's criticism of Rosenberg is in his review of Rosenberg for the New York Times.) UDers like BA see the extreme position as the most "logical" position, as revealing the most "logical" implications that follow from their view of materialism, subjectivism, atheism, etc. They see themselves as turning their critics' own weapon against them, revealing how irrational those critics really and knowingly are, and convincing themselves that they are the true champions of reason and logic. -------------- All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11 F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11 Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 12 2015,19:52    Comments appear to be disappearing from Barry's latest 'RDFish is an Idiot' post. First to go was one from an ID critic whose name and content I cannot recall, except it was to the effect that an 'armchair psychologist' could see that fear has driven Barry's post; Joe's comment still refers to it. Next to go were Jim Smith's and Wallstreeter43s' comments, although strangely their post headers remain, void of content. Jim Smith's comment was (against form) critical of Barry, and as I recall Wallstreeter's was supportive, although I don't have the content of either saved. The post is a spectacular meltdown, and it's only Monday where I am! UD link -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 12 2015,21:43    Quote (Ptaylor @ April 12 2015,19:52) Comments appear to be disappearing from Barry's latest 'RDFish is an Idiot' post. First to go was one from an ID critic whose name and content I cannot recall, except it was to the effect that an 'armchair psychologist' could see that fear has driven Barry's post; Joe's comment still refers to it. Next to go were Jim Smith's and Wallstreeter43s' comments, although strangely their post headers remain, void of content. Jim Smith's comment was (against form) critical of Barry, and as I recall Wallstreeter's was supportive, although I don't have the content of either saved. The post is a spectacular meltdown, and it's only Monday where I am! UD link Hopefully someone saved a copy of the thread because when Barry Arrogant sobers up you can bet the whole thing will be gone. I especially like where BA pulled a kariosflatus and added the following comment (bolded) to LoF's post.   Quote lack of Focus April 12, 2015 at 5:48 pm Well Barry, since you are incapable of having a discussion without name calling, I will simply say that we agree to disagree, and move on to have discussions with people who can behave like mature adults. Cheers. Barry responds: Coward. If you ever grow a pair and find the courage to examine your beliefs at a very basic level, come back and we’ll talk. I won’t be holding my breath. Yeah Barry, do lecture everyone about cowardice when you insult people, erase their words and /or silently ban them for disagreeing with you.  Someone remind me, when's the last time the Arrogant One posted here or at TSZ? -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 12 2015,22:05    He deletes posts, marks up other people's posts and then tells others to 'grow some stones'. Objective morality Banny Arrington in action. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 12 2015,22:18    Quote (Richardthughes @ April 12 2015,22:05) He deletes posts, marks up other people's posts and then tells others to 'grow some stones'. Objective morality Banny Arrington in action. Turn off your hypocrisy meters, disassemble them and store all the pieces in separate lead-lined boxes. Then view Barry Arrogant's Personal Statement on his bankruptcy attorney web site.     Quote Being a Christian gives me a standard of integrity far beyond what the world requires I had the great good fortune of being raised in a Christian household, and I gave my heart to Christ at an early age. His gospel is the greatest message in the history of the world. The gospel message in its simplest form is that:    1. We are separated from God due to our disobedience of Him, which is also called “sin”;    2. Jesus is God’s son who came and died to pay the price for our sins,    3. And, if we accept the free gift of Jesus’ sacrifice, we can be reunited with God our Father. Once we accept this gift, we can be assured that life can have purpose and we can be assured of going to heaven to live with God. We enter into the relationship for which we were created. I am now a Colorado Christian bankruptcy lawyer / attorney in Centennial, Littleton and Aurora, seeking excellence in all I do. To some, being a Christian might seem like having a divided mind, being passive or lacking focus. To me, it means having insight into how people think and behave, and having a standard of integrity far beyond what the world requires. While serving my clients, I am also serving God as a Christian lawyer / attorney. If his integrity is far beyond what the world requires I'd hate to see the bare minimum. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: April 12 2015,22:24    SteRusJon displays his christian 'charity': "Sic’em, Barry!" Comment number 8: http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....omments -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: April 12 2015,22:36    -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,01:01    Quote Sometimes I find it hard to believe that you practice law as your manner is so crass and overbearing. Considering the way things are going in some places in America I’m surprised you haven’t run for elected office. Seen on the RDfish thread by Jerad.   Edited by midwifetoad on April 13 2015,01:01 -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,03:11    I hope that whoever is up early or awake in different time zones will get ongoing screen captures of arrington's meltdown thread (the one aimed at RDFish, etc.). If you don't have a capture program, the one linked to below works well, although it sometimes doesn't capture all of the comments if the thread is real long. If that happens, you can do another capture of the comments in the thread that are below the ones in the first capture. http://www.ducklink.com/p....re....re-tool It's free, and I don't know if there's a Mac version. Saving the captures as jpg files lowers the quality from that of a png file but they're still easily readable. ETA: corrected a typo Edited by The whole truth on April 13 2015,01:55 -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Soapy Sam Posts: 659 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,03:31    Quote (Richardthughes @ April 13 2015,04:05) He deletes posts, marks up other people's posts and then tells others to 'grow some stones'. Objective morality Banny Arrington in action. <AndreMungmode> You are saying that he is wrong to do these things? Surely he's just doing what his neurons dictate? Gotcha, you materialist bastard! </AndreMungmode> -------------- SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,08:45    Looks like Banny Arrogant has gone full Joe G on the UD regulars.   Quote 18 Jerad April 12, 2015 at 11:50 pm UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over.   Quote 19 Mark FrankApril 13, 2015 at 12:19 am UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over.   Quote 21 Piotr April 13, 2015 at 2:26 am UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over.   Quote 22 Bob O'HApril 13, 2015 at 2:35 am UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over.   Quote 25 Hangonasec April 13, 2015 at 5:54 am UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over.   Quote 26  lack of FocusApril 13, 2015 at 6:04 am UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over.   Quote 32 Aurelio SmithApril 13, 2015 at 7:14 am UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over. Remember, Banny Arrogant has Christian integrity far beyond what the world requires.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,08:56    The beatings will continue until morale improves. Damn. Has there ever been a limper dick in charge of the premier website of a political movement. (ID does achieve occasional political results, so it can't be ignored.) Barry achieves the near impossible. He makes Fart Joke and Gerbil look like giants. Edited by midwifetoad on April 13 2015,08:57 -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,09:02    Speaking of capture, it's simpler just to save the web page complete. then you can bring it up locally and copy what you need at your leisure. You can do this without waiting for special software to be installed. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,09:29    Offer up a thread here for those who wish to discuss without censorship and bullying. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Kantian Naturalist Posts: 72 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,09:30    Quote (paragwinn @ April 12 2015,17:42) UDers like BA see the extreme position as the most "logical" position, as revealing the most "logical" implications that follow from their view of materialism, subjectivism, atheism, etc. They see themselves as turning their critics' own weapon against them, revealing how irrational those critics really and knowingly are, and convincing themselves that they are the true champions of reason and logic. Yes, that's crucial to their entire method. Anything less extreme is quickly dismissed as confuse, inconsistent, or hypocritical. That's the script: if you're not a theist, you can either be inconsistent or fully consistent but at the high price of being unavailable to avoid the slippery slope to nihilism. Put otherwise, their view is that naturalism entails nihilism, and that non-nihilistic naturalists are inconsistent. But since they know that naturalism entails nihilism (Lewontin! Nietzsche! Hitler!), they feel no intellectual obligation to show that non-nihilistic naturalists are inconsistent.  (It's "self-evident"!)   Likewise it's just "self-evident" that there can't be a naturalistic explanation of consciousness, rationality, objectivity, or free will. Why not? Because there just can't be, that's why! And so every time someone comes along and says, "here's a naturalistic explanation of ", the response is always the same: either "that's not what  means!" or "that doesn't really explain _!"   To paraphrase the great American philosopher C. I. Lewis (no relation to C. S. Lewis), they prefer adoration of a mystery over explanation of a fact.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,10:03    Dickless Barry beats his chest, declares victory.   Quote Barry Arrington April 13, 2015 at 8:49 am Indeed. Why do the materialists on this site scurry like bugs when one lifts a rock every time we insist they address the logical consequences of materialism. It takes a brave Christian man full of integrity to proclaim himself the victor after deleting a dozen replies and banning at least two responders. It's true.  This man has no dick. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,10:38    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 12 2015,21:43) Quote (Ptaylor @ April 12 2015,19:52) Comments appear to be disappearing from Barry's latest 'RDFish is an Idiot' post. First to go was one from an ID critic whose name and content I cannot recall, except it was to the effect that an 'armchair psychologist' could see that fear has driven Barry's post; Joe's comment still refers to it. Next to go were Jim Smith's and Wallstreeter43s' comments, although strangely their post headers remain, void of content. Jim Smith's comment was (against form) critical of Barry, and as I recall Wallstreeter's was supportive, although I don't have the content of either saved. The post is a spectacular meltdown, and it's only Monday where I am! UD link Hopefully someone saved a copy of the thread because when Barry Arrogant sobers up you can bet the whole thing will be gone. I especially like where BA pulled a kariosflatus and added the following comment (bolded) to LoF's post.     Quote lack of Focus April 12, 2015 at 5:48 pm Well Barry, since you are incapable of having a discussion without name calling, I will simply say that we agree to disagree, and move on to have discussions with people who can behave like mature adults. Cheers. Barry responds: Coward. If you ever grow a pair and find the courage to examine your beliefs at a very basic level, come back and we’ll talk. I won’t be holding my breath. Yeah Barry, do lecture everyone about cowardice when you insult people, erase their words and /or silently ban them for disagreeing with you.  Someone remind me, when's the last time the Arrogant One posted here or at TSZ? And Tim resorts to bad poetry. Quote Barry takes aim at their hocus pocus, With a syllogistic barrage, whose cross-hairs, whose locus, Meets just over the head of their ken, So instead of playing ball They run like Lack of Focus.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,10:48    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 13 2015,10:38) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 12 2015,21:43) Quote (Ptaylor @ April 12 2015,19:52) Comments appear to be disappearing from Barry's latest 'RDFish is an Idiot' post. First to go was one from an ID critic whose name and content I cannot recall, except it was to the effect that an 'armchair psychologist' could see that fear has driven Barry's post; Joe's comment still refers to it. Next to go were Jim Smith's and Wallstreeter43s' comments, although strangely their post headers remain, void of content. Jim Smith's comment was (against form) critical of Barry, and as I recall Wallstreeter's was supportive, although I don't have the content of either saved. The post is a spectacular meltdown, and it's only Monday where I am! UD link Hopefully someone saved a copy of the thread because when Barry Arrogant sobers up you can bet the whole thing will be gone. I especially like where BA pulled a kariosflatus and added the following comment (bolded) to LoF's post.     Quote lack of Focus April 12, 2015 at 5:48 pm Well Barry, since you are incapable of having a discussion without name calling, I will simply say that we agree to disagree, and move on to have discussions with people who can behave like mature adults. Cheers. Barry responds: Coward. If you ever grow a pair and find the courage to examine your beliefs at a very basic level, come back and we’ll talk. I won’t be holding my breath. Yeah Barry, do lecture everyone about cowardice when you insult people, erase their words and /or silently ban them for disagreeing with you.  Someone remind me, when's the last time the Arrogant One posted here or at TSZ? And Tim resorts to bad poetry. Quote Barry takes aim at their hocus pocus, With a syllogistic barrage, whose cross-hairs, whose locus, Meets just over the head of their ken, So instead of playing ball They run like Lack of Focus. And Gordon (KairosFocus) Mullings goes to Barry's defence. Quote Barry, are you doing a practical demonstration on the subject of how we are morally governed, so that even those whose worldviews deny that possibility find themselves under it and naturally — even angrily — expect others to be like that? If that is a material part of the why of this thread, I can see its point. Not my way, but then a mild but sharply painful swat on the gluteus maximus can often have a wonderful effect on a recalcitrant child. KF

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,12:11    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 13 2015,08:45) Looks like Banny Arrogant has gone full Joe G on the UD regulars.     Quote 18 Jerad April 12, 2015 at 11:50 pm UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over.     Quote 19 Mark FrankApril 13, 2015 at 12:19 am UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over.     Quote 21 Piotr April 13, 2015 at 2:26 am UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over.     Quote 22 Bob O'HApril 13, 2015 at 2:35 am UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over.     Quote 25 Hangonasec April 13, 2015 at 5:54 am UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over.     Quote 26  lack of FocusApril 13, 2015 at 6:04 am UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over.     Quote 32 Aurelio SmithApril 13, 2015 at 7:14 am UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over. Remember, Banny Arrogant has Christian integrity far beyond what the world requires.  :D Whines Barry Arrington. This is the best UD meltdown so far this year! -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,13:01    If I recall, I wasn't whining and snivelling, I was being silly. Can't remember exactly what I wrote, though. -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Soapy Sam Posts: 659 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,13:14    Hangonasec whined and snivel(l)ed thusly:     Quote       Quote BA: Coward. If you ever grow a pair and find the courage to examine your beliefs at a very basic level, come back and we’ll talk. Says the man notable for his absence from any debate he cannot edit. For some reason, I am reminded of Captain Black: "Hey, where are you going? Come on back! Come on back here and eat your liver!" Edited by Soapy Sam on April 13 2015,20:51 -------------- SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,13:32    Quote (Bob O'H @ April 13 2015,13:01) If I recall, I wasn't whining and snivelling, I was being silly. Can't remember exactly what I wrote, though. Say what I want or you're a lying sniveling coward. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Soapy Sam Posts: 659 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,13:48    Quote (Soapy Sam @ April 13 2015,09:31) Quote (Richardthughes @ April 13 2015,04:05) He deletes posts, marks up other people's posts and then tells others to 'grow some stones'. Objective morality Banny Arrington in action. <AndreMungmode> You are saying that he is wrong to do these things? Surely he's just doing what his neurons dictate? Gotcha, you materialist bastard! </AndreMungmode> The more elaborate version, of course, is WJMmode, right on cue: Quote It’s always amusing to watch those who consider morality entirely subjective get all morally outraged about the behavior of others – as if their own personal morality was some sort of standard by which others should behave. A 'materialist' simply cannot find anything behavioural to be distasteful! Or, only theists have licence to say so. -------------- SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2015,14:19    Quote 26  lack of FocusApril 13, 2015 at 6:04 am UD Editors: Sniveling and whining deleted from this comment. Nothing is left over. Apparently, stating that you refuse to debate with someone who resorts to name calling is snivelling and whining. I thought that he would appreciate my christian "turn the other cheek" approach. But I turn the other cheek and he gives it a good swift kick. Looks like it's back to moderation for me.

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