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Aardvark



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,09:52   

Got it:

March 13, 2006
[followup] No religious motive for Satanist arson suspects

Christinaity Today: ‘No Religious Motive’ for ‘Satanist’ Arson Suspects  

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/110/51.0.html

   Birmingham News:

   Friends said [suspects Russell DeBusk] and Ben Moseley were Satanists,

This is a followup on DaveScot’s provocative question PandasThumb Denizens?

In my own view, in answer to Dave’s question, I would think the probability is very remote that they were PandasThumb Denizens. PT’s not quite that deep in the swamp compared to say (….site names withheld…)

But It would be worthwhile indeed to inquire what website these guys visit. In fact it was some internet posts they made which uncovered some incriminating evidence which is in the article linked above from Christianity Today.

This is a curious instance of how the press will rush to paint criminals as not religiously motivated when Christian churches are being desacrated. The jury may still be out on them, but the point is the media is not being very swift in reporting certain things…

How does this relate to ID? In contrast, look how quick religious motivations are put to the front in the media, when the truth is, these are legitimate scientific questions which Darwin himself was willing to entertain….

The media is unwilling to insulate the question of ID from religious motivations, but quite willing to avoid mention of the religous views of these suspected criminals. I had to dig quite a bit to find the above information.

Salvador
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     Hateful speech leads to hateful actions. Panda’s Thumb encourages hateful speech towards the prototypical “fundie” - evangelical southern Baptists. You know that. I can only then conclude you don’t believe that hateful speech leads to hateful actions.

     I found a link worth looking at in yours describing the so-called “Culture Wars” in more brutally honest terms “The War On Christians”. This is exactly what is going on. It’s politically incorrect in the United States to pick on minorities of any kind but Christians are a majority so they’ve become fair game. The “Angry White Male” that 10 years ago was credited with Gingrich’s “Contract With America” that began the conservative Republican ascendence to political dominance now has lots of company in the liberal Democrat doghouse - strongly religious Christians of any color.

     I just can’t wait to see the results play out from this further bit of idiocy from the loony left that hijacked the Democratic party as they’re now working hard to alienate two of their largest and most loyal remaining political bases - Catholic Hispanic Americans and Baptist African Americans. It’s almost getting alarming as their destruction of the Democratic party moves us further towards what for all intents and purposes is a single party system.

     Comment by DaveScot — March 13, 2006 @ 11:26 am
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     “Hateful speech leads to hateful actions. Panda’s Thumb encourages hateful speech towards the prototypical “fundie” - evangelical southern Baptists. You know that. I can only then conclude you don’t believe that hateful speech leads to hateful actions.”

     I don’t think this follows. For one, the phrase ‘hateful speech leads to hateful actions’ would need to be amended to read ‘hateful speech necessarily leads to hateful actions’, a claim that I think is not true. Another problem is the notion of ‘hateful’. Perhaps I find it hateful when I’m told that I will go to #### because I don’t accept Jesus Christ as my personal savior. Should I worry about the speaker (or one of his followers) taking action to speed me on my way? (I don’t worry, by the way.) And perhaps I find referring to people as ‘loony’ as hateful. Does that mean that I can expect DaveScot to soon commit a hateful action? Probably not.

     The point is that calling speech ‘hateful’ is not as clear-cut as one might like it to be. It is also not as productive as one might like it to be.

     With respect to the original post, I won’t try to defend the media but would point out that we have been (overly) sensitized to religiously motivated violence and ‘hate crimes’ in this country. So when something happens to a church, one of the first questions that the media asks is “was this motivated by hatred for religion?” When the answer turns out to be ‘no’, that’s what they report. And that’s what people are asking as well, so it is probably appropriate that they do.

     And they are doing the same thing in your second example: looking for religious motivations. If the media were less focused on religion as a motivation for actions we might see more facts and discussion of issues and less digression into off-topic areas.

     Comment by Kipli — March 13, 2006 @ 12:03 pm

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,10:21   

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Mar. 13 2006,13:33)
[quote=stevestory,Mar. 12 2006,17:23]Yeah, I really should write up a list of say Top Ten Uncommonly Dense basic science errors.

That would make a great thread all by itself!

Start with a list of ten and add to it as new errors are made.

It would be a start toward providing DaveSpringer with the science education he never bothered to get...  :p

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,10:35   

I missed that: are the church arsonists actually 'Satanists', or is that just some gibberish some Christian website made up because it sounded good?

Anyway, exhibit #847,456 demonstrating that ID is nothing more than Fundamentalist Christian apologetics, as if any of us needed convincing anymore...

In regards to DaveScot & Sal's continuing infantile quest to blame 'evolution' for all the evils of the modern world, I have an observation: has anyone else ever noticed that whenever you see a bunch of crimes committed by teenagers who are supposedly 'Satanists', that the incident always seems to be in some heavy-duty Bible Belt red state area? Also, the 'Satanists' are usually the children of Christian families themselves. If Davey's theories about the evils of liberalism were true, wouldn't all these Satanists come from wicked liberal places like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Madison, WI, New York, Boston, etc., and wouldn't they be the children of secular humanists, Jews, Buddhists, etc.?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,10:42   

Arden, I have relatives who believe both in Answers in Genesis, and in conspiracy theories involving Satanists, so I can answer the questions for you:

Satanists are everywhere. They are rife in the areas you mentioned, among the people you mentioned. Also, they have completely infiltrated the highest realms of power. The president, the UN, the Federal Reserve, Congress, and the FBI are all stuffed with Satanists. And the judiciary. And universities. If you think some piece of evidence x refutes this idea, piece of evidence x was provided by a Satanist.

They even believe that certain other conservatives / conspiracists, like Rush Limbaugh and Bo Gritz, are plants and/or Satanists themselves.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,10:54   

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I just can’t wait to see the results play out from this further bit of idiocy from the loony left that hijacked the Democratic party as they’re now working hard to alienate two of their largest and most loyal remaining political bases - Catholic Hispanic Americans and Baptist African Americans.


Oh yeah, last I heard, George Bush had a whopping 2% approval rating among African Americans. If the GOP manages to crank that up to 4%, we Democrats could really be in trouble!!!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,11:49   

Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 13 2006,16:42)
Arden, I have relatives who believe both in Answers in Genesis, and in conspiracy theories involving Satanists, so I can answer the questions for you:

Satanists are everywhere. They are rife in the areas you mentioned, among the people you mentioned. Also, they have completely infiltrated the highest realms of power. The president, the UN, the Federal Reserve, Congress, and the FBI are all stuffed with Satanists. And the judiciary. And universities. If you think some piece of evidence x refutes this idea, piece of evidence x was provided by a Satanist.

They even believe that certain other conservatives / conspiracists, like Rush Limbaugh and Bo Gritz, are plants and/or Satanists themselves.

Yes, the policy seems to be that just about everything is Satanic unless proven otherwise. But the theory of Rush Limbaugh and Bo Gritz being Satanists would explain a lot, I have to say... Hmmmm... ;)

Also, these folks really don't like being reminded that there really is no such thing as 'Satanism' outside a Christian context. That is, in order to be a Satanist, you have to essentially have to accept the Christian concept of Satan, and specifically find Christianity compelling enough to rebel against. In other words, Satanism does not make sense as anything except a rogue form of Christianty. That's why Satanism only seems to pop up in conservative Bible Belt areas.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,12:23   

In my hometown, while I was in high school, there was a grave robbing. The local paper, the Lake City Reporter, mentioned it and I believe pointed to Satanism. Whether or not they did, the community was pretty rapidly in the grips of Satanic Panic. It happens that I knew a guy named Travis, who was the brother of one of the robbers, and I can tell you they were just disaffected, apathetic poor southern aggressive boys. Playing pranks with some skeletons just struck them as a gnarly and extreme thing to do. It was an interesting experience to watch a fairly ignorant evangelical community go apeshit over some bored miscreants.

Aren't you the person who whines when others hijack his thread? How is this supposed to be on-topic? stevestory, you're outta here. -dt

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,12:33   

That's funny.
I propose that all future posts to this thread be embellished with parodic self-bannings.

just as this blog will no longer be embellished with your presense, o'cryin' -dt

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,12:43   

Davetard banned someone for saying Paul Nelson is a Young Earth Creationist, a fact admitted to by Paul Nelson.

What a day it's been. May the good (nonexistent) lord provide us a million more.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,12:46   

Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 13 2006,18:23)
In my hometown, while I was in high school, there was a grave robbing. The local paper, the Lake City Reporter, mentioned it and I believe pointed to Satanism. Whether or not they did, the community was pretty rapidly in the grips of Satanic Panic. It happens that I knew a guy named Travis, who was the brother of one of the robbers, and I can tell you they were just disaffected, apathetic poor southern aggressive boys. Playing pranks with some skeletons just struck them as a gnarly and extreme thing to do. It was an interesting experience to watch a fairly ignorant evangelical community go apeshit over some bored miscreants.

Precisely. I have a very strong hunch that the church arsonists were exactly 'disaffected, apathetic poor southern aggressive boys', who thought that burning some churches sounded like 'a gnarly and extreme thing to do'. Think Beavis & Bvtthead. The movie the River's Edge captures the ethos very well.
That's it, I've warned you for the last time about Christian bashing. You're outta here.-dt

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,12:51   

Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 13 2006,18:43)
Davetard banned someone for saying Paul Nelson is a Young Earth Creationist, a fact admitted to by Paul Nelson.

What a day it's been. May the good (nonexistent) lord provide us a million more.

There won't be a million more for you, you're gone.-dt

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,13:20   

Quote (stevestory @ March 13 2006, 18:43)
Davetard banned someone for saying Paul Nelson is a Young Earth Creationist, a fact admitted to by Paul Nelson.

Unless you have some evidence I find acceptable that I am profoundly retarded I think you should take your comments elsewhere. -dt

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,13:35   

You have GOT to go read this Uncommonly Dense thread. When you get to crandaddy's statement that 'these are marginal claims' you will fall on the floor laughing.

unless you can prove that "Uncommon Descent" exists, that there is a 'crandaddy', and that I inject stupid comments in boldface, Your A55 is Grass -dt

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,13:55   

I don't know if others have gone through the same phases that I have with respect to Dembski's club.  First, I was appalled at their combination of ignorance and arrogance.  Then I was frustrated at their inability to understand the points I made.  Then it dawned on me that I was laboring under the false assumption that they actually care about the accuracy of their beliefs.  They don't.

ID, like other pseudosciences, is not a vehicle for arriving at the truth, but rather a shortcut to self-importance.  Making a name for himself in an established field would have been almost impossible for someone like Dembski, who would have been outshined by others more brilliant than he.  So instead he publishes to a crowd who lauds him as a genius for his degrees and his ability to spin pseudotechnical claptrap.  (For fun, compare the number of Google hits for William Dembski to, say, Ray Solomonoff.)

Our friend Dave is an even sadder case.  Anyone who thinks that Dave can be dissuaded by criticism doesn't understand him.  He's desperate for attention of any kind, and has no qualms about alienating his readers since the internet will always provide him with more.  Unable to achieve recognition any other way, Dave settles for infamy as an immature, dull-witted jerk.

I, for one, am no longer going to provide Dave with the acknowledgment that he craves.  I had another article ready to post on my UD parody (about the Inflammatory Filter, which gives no false positives), but instead I'm going to spend some time reading.  Then I'm going to read to my daughter, who loves to learn.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,13:57   

Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 13 2006,19:35)
Y hv GT t g rd ths ncmmnl Dns thrd. Whn y gt t crnddd's sttmnt tht 'ths r mrgnl clms' y wll fll n th flr lghng.

So who's laughing now?-dt

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,17:22   

Quote (Stranger than fiction @ Mar. 13 2006,19:55)
Anyone who thinks that Dave can be dissuaded by criticism doesn't understand him.  He's desperate for attention of any kind, and has no qualms about alienating his readers since the internet will always provide him with more.  Unable to achieve recognition any other way, Dave settles for infamy as an immature, dull-witted jerk.

Dave may not care whether anyone likes him, but believe me, he cares about whether he is respected.  A big part of that is wanting to be right.  I've been watching him for a few months now, and I've seen the elaborate gyrations he goes through to avoid admitting a mistake to anyone, friend or foe.  Accurate criticism cuts him to the bone, which is why he invents reasons to ban intelligent skeptics from UD.

It's also why he invents new aliases to come here (and to PT) to defend his well-trampled name.

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...instead I'm going to spend some time reading.  Then I'm going to read to my daughter, who loves to learn.

I've had it with your crap, STF.  I've been reading Scientific American cover-to-cover each month for more than 30 years, and I've forgotten more than your daughter has learned in her whole life from books.  (I came up with the idea for the printing press long ago and only recently discovered that Gutenberg had the same idea).  Right now I'm sitting on my boat, next to my waterfront property (purchased with my stock options -- did I tell you I used to work at Dell?), wondering with my high IQ why people like you make me do their research for them.  Start reading, or you're history. -dt

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,17:34   

Quote (Stranger than fiction @ Mar. 13 2006,19:55)
I, for one, am no longer going to provide Dave with the acknowledgment that he craves.  I had another article ready to post on my UD parody (about the Inflammatory Filter, which gives no false positives), but instead I'm going to spend some time reading.  Then I'm going to read to my daughter, who loves to learn.

Send us a link to the article you are writing, will ya?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,18:14   

WOW, check this out from Davison's blog. I think we're getting to him:

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This is for Arden Chatfield, number one moron at the Bunker. Dave Springer and I have been insulting one another for years. It is a way of life for us. Bright people are like that you stupid turd. You are nothing but an ignorant would be troublemaker. Grow up. If you think I have insulted Springer you ought to see some of the things he has said about me. White Texas trash is nothing. It was just my way of telling him what I thought about banning me from Dilliam Wembski's Fundie Palace. I wouldn't return to that dump if I was paid. My papers are right there anyway . What the #### else would I be needed for?

Where will I find your evolutionary schlock you illiterate goon? You are pathetic.
Touch yourself until you stain yourself. Got that? Write that down.

God but I'm good.


'God but I'm good'? Good WHAT?

The man's senility has gone further than I thought.

He even tries to bait me for the mugshot I have as my avatar! (Which precisely one person here seems to have recognized):

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This is for Arden Chatfield over at Der Fuhrer Herr Doktor Professor Welsberry's (pronounced Felsberry) crumbling Bunker. I love the full front and profile portraits that accompany each of your sterling comments. On what charge were you booked or would you rather not say?


Anyway, he mentions me like nine times. I seem to be really upsetting him! He even called me 'number one moron'. Do I now have sufficient street cred to join the secret club of wicked secular evilutionists now?  :p
Show John some respect. That man's a genius who's suffered a huge amount of persecution from the liberal academic establishment. You're toast.-dt

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,19:03   

I wonder why it is that the people most desperately in need of moderation are also the ones most upset when they get it?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,20:18   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Mar. 14 2006,00:14)
WOW, check this out from Davison's blog. I think we're getting to him:

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This is for Arden Chatfield, number one moron at the Bunker. Dave Springer and I have been insulting one another for years. It is a way of life for us. Bright people are like that you stupid turd. You are nothing but an ignorant would be troublemaker. Grow up. If you think I have insulted Springer you ought to see some of the things he has said about me. White Texas trash is nothing. It was just my way of telling him what I thought about banning me from Dilliam Wembski's Fundie Palace. I wouldn't return to that dump if I was paid. My papers are right there anyway . What the #### else would I be needed for?

Where will I find your evolutionary schlock you illiterate goon? You are pathetic.
Touch yourself until you stain yourself. Got that? Write that down.

God but I'm good.


'God but I'm good'? Good WHAT?

The man's senility has gone further than I thought.

He even tries to bait me for the mugshot I have as my avatar! (Which precisely one person here seems to have recognized):

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This is for Arden Chatfield over at Der Fuhrer Herr Doktor Professor Welsberry's (pronounced Felsberry) crumbling Bunker. I love the full front and profile portraits that accompany each of your sterling comments. On what charge were you booked or would you rather not say?


Anyway, he mentions me like nine times. I seem to be really upsetting him! He even called me 'number one moron'. Do I now have sufficient street cred to join the secret club of wicked secular evilutionists now?  :p
Show John some respect. That man's a genius who's suffered a huge amount of persecution from the liberal academic establishment. You're toast.-dt

Actually, I'm beginning to feel a little sorry for JAD.  I took a look at his blog earlier too, and it appears he's been reduced to begging people to bump the "JAD" thread so that it doesn't disappear from the front page.  (Well, that and the usual name calling and quoting General Patton.)

There comes a point when making fun of someone is simply piling on... it's not enjoyable any more. I'm not saying that he should be unbanned (far from it), and I know he brings it on himself, but it all seems to be getting a little pathetic. I just hope the rest of his life is a little less sad than his current online predicament.

That's it for you.  Nobody can reference people I've banned except me... outta here!  -dt

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,21:32   

DaveStalin proves once again that he is nothing but a sociopath, not unlike Stalin and Hitler.

Anyway, since DaveStalin is against hate speech against gays, is he for banning the Bible?

No I'm not and you're done. -ds

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2006,01:34   

Now, I'm new at this whole parsing the UDites thing...

"Dave Springer and I have been insulting one another for years. It is a way of life for us. Bright people are like that you stupid turd."

Now, he says that bright people insult each other, then insults Arden.  Therefore, he considers Arden bright.  Ipso QED.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2006,04:15   

Quote (thurdl01 @ Mar. 14 2006,07:34)
Now, I'm new at this whole parsing the UDites thing...

"UDites"-- I like it.

The assonance with "Luddites" gives the right connotation of a group of antediluvian diehards fighting tooth and nail against modernity.

Dismissive speech leads to dismissive actions, but the one being dismissed is you.  Sayonara. -dt

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2006,04:31   

Quote (thurdl01 @ Mar. 14 2006,07:34)
Now, I'm new at this whole parsing the UDites thing...

"Dave Springer and I have been insulting one another for years. It is a way of life for us. Bright people are like that you stupid turd."

Now, he says that bright people insult each other, then insults Arden.  Therefore, he considers Arden bright.  Ipso QED.

And yet I'm the 'number one moron'. If I was inclined to take JD seriously I might be confused.
Here's serious for you, hasta la vista.-dt

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2006,04:38   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 14 2006,01:03)
I wonder why it is that the people most desperately in need of moderation are also the ones most upset when they get it?

Out of curiosity, are you referring to me or John there?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2006,05:56   

I'm referring to the small roster of folks who have managed to get themselves banned.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2006,06:30   

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I'm referring to the small roster of folks who have managed to get themselves banned.
Banning people is just like you Darwinists. You make me sick. You're out of here. -dt

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2006,06:33   

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My take: The poll is significant because my opinion (as a lay-person) counts just as much under the Constitution as the opinion of someone in the National Academy. Darwinists, with their elitist mentality, are trying to violate my equal protection RIGHTS under the 14th amendment and have me be ruled by those of a class not recognized in the Constitution: “scientists” (by the Academy definition)

Comment by Ryan — March 13, 2006 @ 8:53 pm


That's right folks.  Under the equal protection clause, ALL aspects of EVERYTHING have to be taught.  Imagine replacing "scientists" with "historians" and see where it takes you.  I hope this guy sticks around, he may be near as dumb as Red Reader.

Unless I get some evidence that anyone here is dumber than Red Reader, this will be your last post -ds

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2006,10:39   

Quote (argystokes @ Mar. 14 2006,12:33)
My take: The poll is significant because my opinion (as a lay-person) counts just as much under the Constitution as the opinion of someone in the National Academy. Darwinists, with their elitist mentality, are trying to violate my equal protection RIGHTS under the 14th amendment and have me be ruled by those of a class not recognized in the Constitution: “scientists” (by the Academy definition)

We're trying to 'rule' poor little Ryan??

Lord, he really needs to get over himself.

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my opinion (as a lay-person) counts just as much under the Constitution as the opinion of someone in the National Academy.


Splendid. I assume therefore if you assumed Cancer was caused by malevolent pixies, that under the constitution your opinion would 'count just as much' as anyone in the American Medical Association. Expertise is meaningless. The Constitution says so.

Anyway, (a) this is why they don't generally let people with a 7th grade education become judges, and (b) "morons" aren't 'recognized in the Constitution', either.
Only I can do the name calling around here, idiot. There's the door.-dt

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2006,11:45   

Ah, you need to tick option to view avatars.

Well, Arden, I think I'm going to untick. No offense, but, I thought Wesley's beard was bad... but...

Making snide comments about the blogzcar will get your option ticked, buddy. (Strike one) What I’m wondering is if there’s any good reason why this shouldn’t be the last snide comment I see from you on this blog. Three strikes and you’re out so I’d put a little more thought and research into your next comment if you want to continue participating here. -dt

  
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