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someotherguy Posts: 398 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2015,19:13    Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 21 2015,18:33) [quote=NoName,Oct. 21 2015,14:10][quote=MrIntelligentDesign,Oct. 21 2015,16:53] Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 21 2015,15:43) Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,13:37)   Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,14:01) Between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit. SO? So if you cannot provide a replacement for that theory, you must accept it. That's your rule isn't it? What are the major and minor axes of the ellipse traced out by its orbit?  How can you claim to reject the theory if you don't know? We win because we have the real science.  You have no replacement. See how that works? I have the real science of celestial pottery, and I say it was made in Staffordshire.  You don't have a replacement theory, so that's where it was made. I like Edgar's real science.  It's a lot less work than, well, real science. It also requires a lot less funding from the NSF than real science.  Edgar's methods just might catch on if the funding situation doesn't improve! -------------- Evolander in training

NoName Posts: 2729 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2015,19:21    Quote (someotherguy @ Oct. 21 2015,20:13) [quote=JohnW,Oct. 21 2015,18:33][quote=NoName,Oct. 21 2015,14:10] Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,16:53) Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 21 2015,15:43)   Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,13:37)     Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,14:01) Between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit. SO? So if you cannot provide a replacement for that theory, you must accept it. That's your rule isn't it? What are the major and minor axes of the ellipse traced out by its orbit?  How can you claim to reject the theory if you don't know? We win because we have the real science.  You have no replacement. See how that works? I have the real science of celestial pottery, and I say it was made in Staffordshire.  You don't have a replacement theory, so that's where it was made. I like Edgar's real science.  It's a lot less work than, well, real science. It also requires a lot less funding from the NSF than real science.  Edgar's methods just might catch on if the funding situation doesn't improve! Nah, it's not worth the money.  Free for his stuff is too expensive.   He should pay people to put up with his effluent.

EmperorZelos Posts: 81 Joined: Oct. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2015,21:53    Hey Poe! I notice that you're running away from the challange!

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,00:59    Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,13:38) Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 21 2015,08:54) Edgar, have you ever presented your 'theory' at the uncommondescent website? Are you familiar with the ID claims made by the guy with the username kairosfocus? If so, what do you think of his claims? If you're not familiar with his claims, here are links to a few of the many articles he has posted at UD: http://tinyurl.com/oarmlv2....oarmlv2 http://tinyurl.com/ompjhs2....ompjhs2 http://tinyurl.com/oqtact7....oqtact7 And here's a page at one of his blogs: http://tinyurl.com/nb7mlh4....nb7mlh4 What is your opinion of his ID claims? No, I did not yet give it. Why? No, I don't know that but by reading all your links, I've seen that they did not talking the real intelligence... My goodness, what they are talking? "No, I did not yet give it. Why?" If your ID 'theory' is correct, and ID 'theory' that is promoted at UD is wrong, shouldn't you go to UD and tell them so? "No, I don't know that but by reading all your links, I've seen that they did not talking the real intelligence..." kairosfocus (gordon mullings) obviously believes that he has the correct evidence and arguments for ID. He will not tolerate any challenges to his claims. If anyone can show that he's wrong and can put him on the right path to understanding and promoting the real intelligence it's you, don't you think? "My goodness, what they are talking?" Good question. You should go to UD and ask him. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,01:10    Quote (dazz @ Oct. 22 2015,03:01) Woah, this insane fucktard even phoned Ken Miller If I am a famous scientist like Kenneth Miller (although I talked to him in phone once), then, maybe I don't need to till the ground and I go ahead with my new discoveries. But no, I am not yet famous. And since this board had not permitted me to use my references (my science books) of my new discoveries in books to shorten the discussion, thus, I had to explain everything here piece by piece, little by little, thus it will take time to all of us. Thus, bear with me. Not just a delusion but a Grand Delusion from Pyschcentral Quote A delusion of grandeur is the fixed, false belief that one possesses superior qualities such as genius, fame, omnipotence, or wealth. It is most often a symptom of schizophrenia, but can also be a symptom found in psychotic or bipolar disorders, as well as dementia (such as Alzheimer’s). People with a delusion of grandeur often have the conviction of having some great but unrecognized talent or insight. They may also believe they have made some important discovery that others don’t understand or appreciate. Less commonly, the individual may have the delusion of having a special relationship with a prominent person (such as being an adviser to the President). Or the person may believe that actually are a very prominent and important person, in which case the actual person may be regarded as an imposter. Grandiose delusions may have religious content, such as the person believes he or she has received a special message from God or another deity. Sometimes, in popular language, this disorder may be known as “megalomania,” but is more accurately referred to as narcissistic personality disorder if it is a core component of a person’s personality and identity. In such disorders, the person has a greatly out-of-proportion sense of their own worth and value in the world. People with this issue can also sometimes have a taste for the finer, more extravagant things in life. Sometimes drug use or abuse can intensify or bring on episodes of delusion of grandeur. People who take phencyclidine (PCP) or amphetamines are especially at risk. People who are high and experience a delusion of grandeur may be at increased risk for physically harmful behavior. For instance, if you believe you are capable of flying after taking PCP, and try to jump off a 10-story building based upon that false belief, you may be at serious risk of death. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Quack Posts: 1961 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,03:49    Quote (k.e.. @ Oct. 22 2015,01:10)   Quote (dazz @ Oct. 22 2015,03:01) Woah, this insane fucktard even phoned Ken Miller If I am a famous scientist like Kenneth Miller (although I talked to him in phone once), then, maybe I don't need to till the ground and I go ahead with my new discoveries. But no, I am not yet famous. And since this board had not permitted me to use my references (my science books) of my new discoveries in books to shorten the discussion, thus, I had to explain everything here piece by piece, little by little, thus it will take time to all of us. Thus, bear with me. Not just a delusion but a Grand Delusion from Pyschcentral     Quote A delusion of grandeur is the fixed, false belief that one possesses superior qualities such as genius, fame, omnipotence, or wealth. It is most often a symptom of schizophrenia, but can also be a symptom found in psychotic or bipolar disorders, as well as dementia (such as Alzheimer’s). People with a delusion of grandeur often have the conviction of having some great but unrecognized talent or insight. They may also believe they have made some important discovery that others don’t understand or appreciate. Less commonly, the individual may have the delusion of having a special relationship with a prominent person (such as being an adviser to the President). Or the person may believe that actually are a very prominent and important person, in which case the actual person may be regarded as an imposter. Grandiose delusions may have religious content, such as the person believes he or she has received a special message from God or another deity. Sometimes, in popular language, this disorder may be known as “megalomania,” but is more accurately referred to as narcissistic personality disorder if it is a core component of a person’s personality and identity. In such disorders, the person has a greatly out-of-proportion sense of their own worth and value in the world. People with this issue can also sometimes have a taste for the finer, more extravagant things in life. Sometimes drug use or abuse can intensify or bring on episodes of delusion of grandeur. People who take phencyclidine (PCP) or amphetamines are especially at risk. People who are high and experience a delusion of grandeur may be at increased risk for physically harmful behavior. For instance, if you believe you are capable of flying after taking PCP, and try to jump off a 10-story building based upon that false belief, you may be at serious risk of death. That about clinches it. The worst chewtoy to appear here since Gary G. Any volunteer? -------------- Rocks have no biology.               Robert Byers.

NoName Posts: 2729 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,06:53    Quote (NoName @ Oct. 21 2015,16:57)   Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,16:37)  ... If you think I'm wrong, show me your replacement since you cannot claim that 2+4 = 10 is wrong if you don't know 2+4 = 6 is right. ... In point of fact, it is trivial to prove that 2 + 4 does not equal 10.  The proof is simply that two numbers each of which is less than half of a given number cannot sum to that number. No knowledge of the specific numbers in question is required.  The formal specification suffices. ... Edgar, do you understand that a single counter-example invalidates your claim? One need not replace a given (wrong) answer before one can reject it. There are countless ways to show that an answer is wrong. Recourse to valid general principles is one. You keep insisting on a "general principle" that is accepted by no one but lunatics and cranks. I've demonstrated, with evidence, that the "principle" does not hold.  We are under no obligation to replace your nonsense before rejecting it. Your foundational assumption has been falsified. We do not need to provide a 'replacement theory' for your nonsense or else accept it. We have shown that it is unsupportable nonsense, and that is all the refutation that is ever required.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,08:51    Edgar it's probably time as you may just realize that its time to see a Doctor. One that speaks your native language. from Symptoms:narcissistic personality disorder Quote Symptoms By Mayo Clinic Staff Narcissistic personality disorder is one of several types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are conditions in which people have traits that cause them to feel and behave in socially distressing ways, limiting their ability to function in relationships and other areas of their life, such as work or school. If you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may feel a sense of entitlement — and when you don't receive special treatment, you may become impatient or angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything — for instance, the best car, athletic club or medical care. At the same time, you have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation. To feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make yourself appear superior. Or you may feel depressed and moody because you fall short of perfection. Many experts use the criteria in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), published by the American Psychiatric Association, to diagnose mental conditions. This manual is also used by insurance companies to reimburse for treatment. DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence, it's not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal and value yourself more than you value others. When to see a doctor When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may not want to think that anything could be wrong — doing so wouldn't fit with your self-image of power and perfection. People with narcissistic personality disorder are most likely to seek treatment when they develop symptoms of depression — often because of perceived criticisms or rejections. If you recognize aspects of your personality that are common to narcissistic personality disorder or you're feeling overwhelmed by sadness, consider reaching out to a trusted doctor or mental health provider. Getting the right treatment can help make your life more rewarding and enjoyable. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

ChemiCat Posts: 532 Joined: Nov. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,09:28    k.e.., Leave Postcardo alone! He's happy shouting at passers-by from the asylum window. Perhaps he will convince someone that he really is Napoleon one day.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,10:27    Quote (ChemiCat @ Oct. 22 2015,17:28) k.e.., Leave Postcardo alone! He's happy shouting at passers-by from the asylum window. Perhaps he will convince someone that he really is Napoleon one day. NO I'M NAPOLEON!! -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,11:16    Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,15:37) Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,14:01) So much for not caring what anyone thinks. LMAO It's pointless to try and explain to him why he's wrong even at the most basic level of science, logic and math. He's already convinced himself he's the second coming and when a religious lunatic has an epiphany, no amounts of logic and critical thinking can poke a dent in that. His perseverance is astonishing. Apparently he's been on this quest for more than two years! Ｉ have science and you have only babbling. If you think I'm wrong, show me your replacement since you cannot claim that 2+4 = 10 is wrong if you don't know 2+4 = 6 is right. Did no one ever teach you modus tollens? -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

NoName Posts: 2729 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,11:42    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 22 2015,12:16) Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,15:37) Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,14:01) So much for not caring what anyone thinks. LMAO It's pointless to try and explain to him why he's wrong even at the most basic level of science, logic and math. He's already convinced himself he's the second coming and when a religious lunatic has an epiphany, no amounts of logic and critical thinking can poke a dent in that. His perseverance is astonishing. Apparently he's been on this quest for more than two years! Ｉ have science and you have only babbling. If you think I'm wrong, show me your replacement since you cannot claim that 2+4 = 10 is wrong if you don't know 2+4 = 6 is right. Did no one ever teach you modus tollens? No one ever taught him basic manners or honesty, logic is simply a word he's heard. I can't think of a single construct he's used here that is supported by the laws of logic. I look forward to his hand-waving dismissal of my proof that 2 + 4 = 10 (in decimal arithmetic) is incorrect even if we don't know the value of 2 + 4.

NoName Posts: 2729 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,11:43    Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,20:01) Woah, this insane fucktard even phoned Ken Miller If I am a famous scientist like Kenneth Miller (although I talked to him in phone once), then, maybe I don't need to till the ground and I go ahead with my new discoveries. But no, I am not yet famous. And since this board had not permitted me to use my references (my science books) of my new discoveries in books to shorten the discussion, thus, I had to explain everything here piece by piece, little by little, thus it will take time to all of us. Thus, bear with me. This is classic and should appear on every site, and every page, on which Edgar tries selling his nonsense as 'science'. 'Insane fucktard' may actually be an understatement.

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,12:36    Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,19:01) Woah, this insane fucktard even phoned Ken Miller If I am a famous scientist like Kenneth Miller (although I talked to him in phone once), then, maybe I don't need to till the ground and I go ahead with my new discoveries. But no, I am not yet famous. And since this board had not permitted me to use my references (my science books) of my new discoveries in books to shorten the discussion, thus, I had to explain everything here piece by piece, little by little, thus it will take time to all of us. Thus, bear with me. Does this put Mr Intelligent Design in the same category as the stoned Californian(?) who phoned up JRR Tolkien late at night (at least at the Oxford end) to ask whether Balrogs have wings?

EmperorZelos Posts: 81 Joined: Oct. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,14:11    Quote (NoName @ Oct. 22 2015,11:42) Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 22 2015,12:16) Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,15:37)   Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,14:01) So much for not caring what anyone thinks. LMAO It's pointless to try and explain to him why he's wrong even at the most basic level of science, logic and math. He's already convinced himself he's the second coming and when a religious lunatic has an epiphany, no amounts of logic and critical thinking can poke a dent in that. His perseverance is astonishing. Apparently he's been on this quest for more than two years! Ｉ have science and you have only babbling. If you think I'm wrong, show me your replacement since you cannot claim that 2+4 = 10 is wrong if you don't know 2+4 = 6 is right. Did no one ever teach you modus tollens? No one ever taught him basic manners or honesty, logic is simply a word he's heard. I can't think of a single construct he's used here that is supported by the laws of logic. I look forward to his hand-waving dismissal of my proof that 2 + 4 = 10 (in decimal arithmetic) is incorrect even if we don't know the value of 2 + 4. He is such a great genius! Yet I can prove, from mathematics, what 2+4 is and he'll just use assumptions ;)

someotherguy Posts: 398 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,16:41    Quote (KevinB @ Oct. 22 2015,12:36) Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,19:01) Woah, this insane fucktard even phoned Ken Miller If I am a famous scientist like Kenneth Miller (although I talked to him in phone once), then, maybe I don't need to till the ground and I go ahead with my new discoveries. But no, I am not yet famous. And since this board had not permitted me to use my references (my science books) of my new discoveries in books to shorten the discussion, thus, I had to explain everything here piece by piece, little by little, thus it will take time to all of us. Thus, bear with me. Does this put Mr Intelligent Design in the same category as the stoned Californian(?) who phoned up JRR Tolkien late at night (at least at the Oxford end) to ask whether Balrogs have wings? Absolutely not.  Whether or not Balrogs have wings is a much more important and interesting question. -------------- Evolander in training

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,17:02    Quote (someotherguy @ Oct. 22 2015,14:41) Quote (KevinB @ Oct. 22 2015,12:36) Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,19:01) Woah, this insane fucktard even phoned Ken Miller If I am a famous scientist like Kenneth Miller (although I talked to him in phone once), then, maybe I don't need to till the ground and I go ahead with my new discoveries. But no, I am not yet famous. And since this board had not permitted me to use my references (my science books) of my new discoveries in books to shorten the discussion, thus, I had to explain everything here piece by piece, little by little, thus it will take time to all of us. Thus, bear with me. Does this put Mr Intelligent Design in the same category as the stoned Californian(?) who phoned up JRR Tolkien late at night (at least at the Oxford end) to ask whether Balrogs have wings? Absolutely not.  Whether or not Balrogs have wings is a much more important and interesting question. If said Californian had told Tolkein that balrogs have wings, and demanded that JRRT help him win a Nobel Prize in biology... -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

dazz Posts: 247 Joined: Mar. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,17:10    Quote (someotherguy @ Oct. 22 2015,23:41) Quote (KevinB @ Oct. 22 2015,12:36) Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,19:01) Woah, this insane fucktard even phoned Ken Miller If I am a famous scientist like Kenneth Miller (although I talked to him in phone once), then, maybe I don't need to till the ground and I go ahead with my new discoveries. But no, I am not yet famous. And since this board had not permitted me to use my references (my science books) of my new discoveries in books to shorten the discussion, thus, I had to explain everything here piece by piece, little by little, thus it will take time to all of us. Thus, bear with me. Does this put Mr Intelligent Design in the same category as the stoned Californian(?) who phoned up JRR Tolkien late at night (at least at the Oxford end) to ask whether Balrogs have wings? Absolutely not.  Whether or not Balrogs have wings is a much more important and interesting question. I'm pretty sure if one was to ask that guy if he meant symmetrical wings, he would at least have an idea of what that means

MrIntelligentDesign Posts: 405 Joined: Sep. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,23:25    Quote (NoName @ Oct. 22 2015,11:43) Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,20:01) Woah, this insane fucktard even phoned Ken Miller If I am a famous scientist like Kenneth Miller (although I talked to him in phone once), then, maybe I don't need to till the ground and I go ahead with my new discoveries. But no, I am not yet famous. And since this board had not permitted me to use my references (my science books) of my new discoveries in books to shorten the discussion, thus, I had to explain everything here piece by piece, little by little, thus it will take time to all of us. Thus, bear with me. This is classic and should appear on every site, and every page, on which Edgar tries selling his nonsense as 'science'. 'Insane fucktard' may actually be an understatement. LOL!!! You can widespread it and i tell you that people will be grateful to you. But you have no science, not at all! That is for sure...

MrIntelligentDesign Posts: 405 Joined: Sep. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,23:27    Quote (EmperorZelos @ Oct. 21 2015,21:53) Hey Poe! I notice that you're running away from the challange! I don't run. I am just busy since I have a lot of things to do. Now, I'm writing again another new book titled, "Scientifically, God Exists"... You have no science but religion only.

MrIntelligentDesign Posts: 405 Joined: Sep. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,23:29    Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 22 2015,00:59) Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,13:38) Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 21 2015,08:54) Edgar, have you ever presented your 'theory' at the uncommondescent website? Are you familiar with the ID claims made by the guy with the username kairosfocus? If so, what do you think of his claims? If you're not familiar with his claims, here are links to a few of the many articles he has posted at UD: http://tinyurl.com/oarmlv2....oarmlv2 http://tinyurl.com/ompjhs2....ompjhs2 http://tinyurl.com/oqtact7....oqtact7 And here's a page at one of his blogs: http://tinyurl.com/nb7mlh4....nb7mlh4 What is your opinion of his ID claims? No, I did not yet give it. Why? No, I don't know that but by reading all your links, I've seen that they did not talking the real intelligence... My goodness, what they are talking? "No, I did not yet give it. Why?" If your ID 'theory' is correct, and ID 'theory' that is promoted at UD is wrong, shouldn't you go to UD and tell them so? "No, I don't know that but by reading all your links, I've seen that they did not talking the real intelligence..." kairosfocus (gordon mullings) obviously believes that he has the correct evidence and arguments for ID. He will not tolerate any challenges to his claims. If anyone can show that he's wrong and can put him on the right path to understanding and promoting the real intelligence it's you, don't you think? "My goodness, what they are talking?" Good question. You should go to UD and ask him. I will surely write another books to discuss those versions of IDs that are too different from me and explain to them that they are all wrong. I just have no time to write, to analyze them and to rebut them. But it would be very easy for me since I have already the real and universal intelligence. I think that they did not have that confidence,.

MrIntelligentDesign Posts: 405 Joined: Sep. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,23:31    Quote (k.e.. @ Oct. 22 2015,01:10) Quote (dazz @ Oct. 22 2015,03:01) Woah, this insane fucktard even phoned Ken Miller If I am a famous scientist like Kenneth Miller (although I talked to him in phone once), then, maybe I don't need to till the ground and I go ahead with my new discoveries. But no, I am not yet famous. And since this board had not permitted me to use my references (my science books) of my new discoveries in books to shorten the discussion, thus, I had to explain everything here piece by piece, little by little, thus it will take time to all of us. Thus, bear with me. Not just a delusion but a Grand Delusion from Pyschcentral   Quote A delusion of grandeur is the fixed, false belief that one possesses superior qualities such as genius, fame, omnipotence, or wealth. It is most often a symptom of schizophrenia, but can also be a symptom found in psychotic or bipolar disorders, as well as dementia (such as Alzheimer’s). People with a delusion of grandeur often have the conviction of having some great but unrecognized talent or insight. They may also believe they have made some important discovery that others don’t understand or appreciate. Less commonly, the individual may have the delusion of having a special relationship with a prominent person (such as being an adviser to the President). Or the person may believe that actually are a very prominent and important person, in which case the actual person may be regarded as an imposter. Grandiose delusions may have religious content, such as the person believes he or she has received a special message from God or another deity. Sometimes, in popular language, this disorder may be known as “megalomania,” but is more accurately referred to as narcissistic personality disorder if it is a core component of a person’s personality and identity. In such disorders, the person has a greatly out-of-proportion sense of their own worth and value in the world. People with this issue can also sometimes have a taste for the finer, more extravagant things in life. Sometimes drug use or abuse can intensify or bring on episodes of delusion of grandeur. People who take phencyclidine (PCP) or amphetamines are especially at risk. People who are high and experience a delusion of grandeur may be at increased risk for physically harmful behavior. For instance, if you believe you are capable of flying after taking PCP, and try to jump off a 10-story building based upon that false belief, you may be at serious risk of death. I think a deluded person is a person who said that I am wrong about intelligence and yet that critics have no replacement for my new discoveries! That is delusion, for sure!

MrIntelligentDesign Posts: 405 Joined: Sep. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,23:33    Quote (NoName @ Oct. 22 2015,06:53) Quote (NoName @ Oct. 21 2015,16:57)   Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,16:37)  ... If you think I'm wrong, show me your replacement since you cannot claim that 2+4 = 10 is wrong if you don't know 2+4 = 6 is right. ... In point of fact, it is trivial to prove that 2 + 4 does not equal 10.  The proof is simply that two numbers each of which is less than half of a given number cannot sum to that number. No knowledge of the specific numbers in question is required.  The formal specification suffices. ... Edgar, do you understand that a single counter-example invalidates your claim? One need not replace a given (wrong) answer before one can reject it. There are countless ways to show that an answer is wrong. Recourse to valid general principles is one. You keep insisting on a "general principle" that is accepted by no one but lunatics and cranks. I've demonstrated, with evidence, that the "principle" does not hold.  We are under no obligation to replace your nonsense before rejecting it. Your foundational assumption has been falsified. We do not need to provide a 'replacement theory' for your nonsense or else accept it. We have shown that it is unsupportable nonsense, and that is all the refutation that is ever required. All of your counter-examples are not counter since they are all wrong for you do not have any clue about intelligence. Try to rediscover the real and universal intelligence or do science to rebut my new discoveries and let us see who will laugh at the end...

MrIntelligentDesign Posts: 405 Joined: Sep. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,23:36    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 22 2015,11:16) Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,15:37) Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,14:01) So much for not caring what anyone thinks. LMAO It's pointless to try and explain to him why he's wrong even at the most basic level of science, logic and math. He's already convinced himself he's the second coming and when a religious lunatic has an epiphany, no amounts of logic and critical thinking can poke a dent in that. His perseverance is astonishing. Apparently he's been on this quest for more than two years! Ｉ have science and you have only babbling. If you think I'm wrong, show me your replacement since you cannot claim that 2+4 = 10 is wrong if you don't know 2+4 = 6 is right. Did no one ever teach you modus tollens? Yes, I knew Modes tollen (MT), so? Reality is reality and we need the best explanation for its origin or we will die dumb.

MrIntelligentDesign Posts: 405 Joined: Sep. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,23:37    Quote (ChemiCat @ Oct. 22 2015,09:28) k.e.., Leave Postcardo alone! He's happy shouting at passers-by from the asylum window. Perhaps he will convince someone that he really is Napoleon one day. As long as there is no replacement for the real intelligence that I've discovered, I have always the best science.

MrIntelligentDesign Posts: 405 Joined: Sep. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,23:38    Quote (NoName @ Oct. 22 2015,11:42) Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 22 2015,12:16) Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,15:37)   Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,14:01) So much for not caring what anyone thinks. LMAO It's pointless to try and explain to him why he's wrong even at the most basic level of science, logic and math. He's already convinced himself he's the second coming and when a religious lunatic has an epiphany, no amounts of logic and critical thinking can poke a dent in that. His perseverance is astonishing. Apparently he's been on this quest for more than two years! Ｉ have science and you have only babbling. If you think I'm wrong, show me your replacement since you cannot claim that 2+4 = 10 is wrong if you don't know 2+4 = 6 is right. Did no one ever teach you modus tollens? No one ever taught him basic manners or honesty, logic is simply a word he's heard. I can't think of a single construct he's used here that is supported by the laws of logic. I look forward to his hand-waving dismissal of my proof that 2 + 4 = 10 (in decimal arithmetic) is incorrect even if we don't know the value of 2 + 4. I did not handwave it. I have been saying that to explain nature, you must at least an idea to replace or counter new discoveries. If not, then, you have nothing to offer thus, it is better for you to shut up and support me.

MrIntelligentDesign Posts: 405 Joined: Sep. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,23:46    Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,16:09) Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,22:42) Quote (N.Wells @ Oct. 21 2015,13:24)   Quote (sparc @ Oct. 21 2015,12:14) Eddy may not answer because he is also busy here, here, here, here, here and here. Humble as always:   Quote [From ]http://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?....=18913] I maybe one of the greatest scientist who ever live now or a worst shameful scientist on humanity's history, but only a real science can strip me of having real science.  .....  Thus, I am informing all you here that your science and understanding of reality are wrong since you have no idea of the real intelligence. I think it is downright charming that at every place he posts     Quote Or (2) How do you know if your car is really your car? Or (3) how do you know if a square is not a rectangle? while at most places people point out A) Because I have a title or bill of sale, etc., and B) that all squares are in fact rectangles (just special kinds of rectangles).   Nonetheless he just keeps on posting exactly the same bilgewater. It is particularly nifty how NoName and others have done a fine job of pointing out how Edgar misunderstands that "All X are Y does not imply that all Y are X" (with respect to intelligence and nature), and all the while Edgar keeps proving them right by continuing to insist that squares are not rectangles.  (Edgar: all squares are a special kind of rectangle, but not all rectangles are squares.) First, you claimed that both instinct, natural process and complex behaviors are different to each others and when I asked you to show me the math, you could not give. WHY? You lied! What if your child ask you about that? Will you lie too? Second, all of you critics here are wrong since you don't have replacement for my new and universal intelligence... I cannot simply accept and believe you...unless you have that replacement... Science doesn't necessarily need math. Not that you know shit about it anyway. Proof: the flat earth vs round earth. No need for any equations, it's either flat or round. Period We need math always in science since we need to test and confirm every claims that is the reason why we need graph. But some discoveries or claims are so obvious that we normally do the math in our mind. For example, how can you differentiate your father to your mother? You don't need  a paper and pen to solve it through math by using set or subset...we can easily use our minds.. Thus, you have really no clue on science...

MrIntelligentDesign Posts: 405 Joined: Sep. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,23:48    Quote (NoName @ Oct. 21 2015,16:10) [quote=MrIntelligentDesign,Oct. 21 2015,16:53][quote=JohnW,Oct. 21 2015,15:43] Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 21 2015,13:37)   Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,14:01) Between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit. SO? So if you cannot provide a replacement for that theory, you must accept it. That's your rule isn't it? What are the major and minor axes of the ellipse traced out by its orbit?  How can you claim to reject the theory if you don't know? We win because we have the real science.  You have no replacement. See how that works? Write it in a science book  with experiment and tell me the math..and I will study it..if not, then, you are only fooling yourself..

MrIntelligentDesign Posts: 405 Joined: Sep. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2015,23:50    Quote (dazz @ Oct. 21 2015,19:01) Woah, this insane fucktard even phoned Ken Miller If I am a famous scientist like Kenneth Miller (although I talked to him in phone once), then, maybe I don't need to till the ground and I go ahead with my new discoveries. But no, I am not yet famous. And since this board had not permitted me to use my references (my science books) of my new discoveries in books to shorten the discussion, thus, I had to explain everything here piece by piece, little by little, thus it will take time to all of us. Thus, bear with me. Yeah. I've even talked to him and told me to send him my new discoveries. I think I sent them through fax and e-mail. Thus, if I meet him before he die, he will surely remember me since I told him that I discovered the real intelligence and I am living in Japan. But I don't care about him, I have science and I can show it anytime, anywhere.

MrIntelligentDesign Posts: 405 Joined: Sep. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2015,01:11    Quote (NoName @ Oct. 21 2015,08:44) On the basis of your own argument, mistaken though it is, as to how science works, you fail.  You lose. Specifically, you have not shown which current hypotheses, theories or conclusions of science you are replacing. You have not shown that your work can, in fact, replace anything currently understood by science. You have not demonstrated that your notions have any explanatory power.  You seem to be completely ignorant about what counts as an explanation. Your work has not been accepted, by anyone, anywhere.  So it has not replace any current theories or concepts. So, it needs nothing to replace it -- as far as science, even on your mistaken understanding, goes, it is a nothing. First it must show what it is attempting to replace.  You haven't even attempted to do that (because you can't because you do not understand the fields involved). Then you must convince others.  It's trivially easy to convince oneself.  That is why your own feelings of certainty about your work are meaningless. You have to convince others. You haven't.  For good reason -- your notions are vague, ad hoc, incoherent, self-contradictory, logically unconnected to each other as well as to reality. You're playing word games.  Badly. Everything you have posted in this thread has been countered and refuted.  You've run away from the challenges and sputtered nonsense in reply. You lose.  You lose because you have nothing.  You lie when you claim you have 'new discoveries', you lie when you claim you have 'science'.  And we've proven it. YOU ARE REALLY CRAZY! You post a lot but no logic, no science and no meaning! Yes, I am replacing intelligence, evolution, etc...I've written 6 science books and I cannot give them here one by one... YOU: a categorization scheme is not a definition. ME: That is stupidity! When you categorize X, you define X. For example, when your boss told you to turn on Win PC, you will never turn on Mac PC or TV or PSP4 or gameboy... Thus, you are wrong. YOU: Yours is not the default position. ME: So, even you but my new discoveries are in default position now since they talk about the real natural realm. Yours are fantasies and religions. YOU: No math is required to distinguish things that are different.What math distinguishes polite behavior from rude behavior?  Or are you incapable of detecting a difference because you have no math to support the distinction? ME: You are really crazy! All things are being done in math and the math is the set and sub-set but you don't use paper and pen for that but use your mind obviously, YOU ARE WRING IN EVERYTHING! YOU: So if you cannot provide a replacement for that theory, you must accept it. ME: Yes, everything must have a choice and decision. You cannot stand neutral in reality since you either must stand to your concluded position or stand to other's position.

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