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olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:03    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,15:49) THAT is my point- you cannot call on those laws that you cannot explain to begin with. Had you actually read and understood my blog about the 2lot you would have understood at least that. This is silly, Joe. There are empirical scientific laws whose origin is not clear at the moment or was not clear at some point. For example, Ohm's law was merely a statement derived from empirical observations in 1827. Its first microscopic justification (Drude model) appeared in 1900. By your logic, Ohm's law should not have been used in the nineteenth century. :) Newton's universal law of gravitation had had no explanation for centuries. That did not prevent people from using it to successfully predict the location of a new planet. Come on, Joe, give it a rest. Go fly a kite. -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout »

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:11    Joe, you're not going to change anything. Is it worth it? Think about the week you've had. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1036 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:19    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 07 2012,15:55) Quote (olegt @ Mar. 07 2012,16:37) Quote (afarensis @ Mar. 07 2012,15:35)   Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 07 2012,15:25)   Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 07 2012,15:17)     Quote (afarensis @ Mar. 07 2012,21:09)       Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 07 2012,14:01) Do opposites attract because they get a charge out of each other? yes, because they are all bipolar :p This is completely revolting and I simply don't have the capacitance for any more of it. I'm going to move to somewhere far, far aday. Watt is going on again?  I'm con-fused. I don't know but I'm totally amp'ed for it! Dunno watts this guy is talkin' about. Is his science current? it is not. Will he rectify the problem? He will not. maybe he needs some self inductance! -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:28    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 07 2012,16:11) Joe, you're not going to change anything. Is it worth it? Think about the week you've had. I've had a very good week- OTOH you have proven that you are a dishonest intellectual child. Is that really what you were shooting for? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:34    Quote (olegt @ Mar. 07 2012,16:03) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,15:49) THAT is my point- you cannot call on those laws that you cannot explain to begin with. Had you actually read and understood my blog about the 2lot you would have understood at least that. This is silly, Joe. There are empirical scientific laws whose origin is not clear at the moment or was not clear at some point. For example, Ohm's law was merely a statement derived from empirical observations in 1827. Its first microscopic justification (Drude model) appeared in 1900. By your logic, Ohm's law should not have been used in the nineteenth century. :) Newton's universal law of gravitation had had no explanation for centuries. That did not prevent people from using it to successfully predict the location of a new planet. Come on, Joe, give it a rest. Go fly a kite. Nice total non-sequitur- I never said we cannot use the laws to explain things. What I am saying is that we cannot use those laws to explain things wrt any materialistic framework because the materiastic framework doesn't have any explanation other than to throw the multi-verse at it (as if that is a solution). -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:34    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:28) Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 07 2012,16:11) Joe, you're not going to change anything. Is it worth it? Think about the week you've had. I've had a very good week- OTOH you have proven that you are a dishonest intellectual child. Is that really what you were shooting for? GAs inside the cell "like data from StarTrek" Misunderstanding Schubin Mole Going from 'when I get moderation powers' to being the only moderated poster I guess in Joeland, down really is up. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:38    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 07 2012,16:34) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:28) Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 07 2012,16:11) Joe, you're not going to change anything. Is it worth it? Think about the week you've had. I've had a very good week- OTOH you have proven that you are a dishonest intellectual child. Is that really what you were shooting for? GAs inside the cell "like data from StarTrek" Misunderstanding Schubin Mole Going from 'when I get moderation powers' to being the only moderated poster I guess in Joeland, down really is up. 1- GAs inside the cell and yes data, like the ever evolving interenet, is an example of an algorithm residing inside teh thing it is changing. 2- YOU ate it wrt Shubin- as I said you have proven to be a dishonest intellectual child 3- Again you are clueless and so is Kevin, still 4- They had to stop me from exposing the evotardgasms And yes RichTARD FAIL, when YOU say I am down it does mean I kicked ass. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:39    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:34) I never said we cannot use the laws to explain things. What I am saying is that we cannot use those laws to explain things wrt any materialistic framework because the materiastic framework doesn't have any explanation other than to throw the multi-verse at it (as if that is a solution). Theory of evolution does not rely on the multiverse. And if by "materialistic framework" you mean methodological naturalism, well, tough luck. Science has always been done along those lines. If creationists want a different science, they are welcome to try. Cue Joe asking for $1M to conduct research. -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout »

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:40    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:38) ...when YOU say I am down it does mean I kicked ass. Yes, you did. Unfortunately (for you) it was your own ass. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:40    RichTARD Hughes Passes the Cowardice Test- he is a coward. Yes, it has been a nice week for me... -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:40    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 07 2012,16:40) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:38) ...when YOU say I am down it does mean I kicked ass. Yes, you did. Unfortunately (for you) it was your own ass. Curved space, I guess. -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout »

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:42    Quote (olegt @ Mar. 07 2012,16:39) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:34) I never said we cannot use the laws to explain things. What I am saying is that we cannot use those laws to explain things wrt any materialistic framework because the materiastic framework doesn't have any explanation other than to throw the multi-verse at it (as if that is a solution). Theory of evolution does not rely on the multiverse. And if by "materialistic framework" you mean methodological naturalism, well, tough luck. Science has always been done along those lines. If creationists want a different science, they are welcome to try. Cue Joe asking for $1M to conduct research. LoL! What "theory"? And it relies on living organisms and everything else it can't explain- Unfortunately your way of conducting science has stopped it from answering one of its three basic questions. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:43    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 07 2012,16:40) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:38) ...when YOU say I am down it does mean I kicked ass. Yes, you did. Unfortunately (for you) it was your own ass. Well, you are my ass now, bitch. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:44    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:40) RichTARD Hughes Passes the Cowardice Test- he is a coward. Yes, it has been a nice week for me... Sorry Joe. I have no interest in restarting an argument I've already comprehensively won in a forum you moderate. Again, you continue the age-old creationist ploy of repeating lies that are already debunked. Folks are welcome to read TSZ and make up their own minds. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:44    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,17:38) Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 07 2012,16:34) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:28)   Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 07 2012,16:11) Joe, you're not going to change anything. Is it worth it? Think about the week you've had. I've had a very good week- OTOH you have proven that you are a dishonest intellectual child. Is that really what you were shooting for? GAs inside the cell "like data from StarTrek" Misunderstanding Schubin Mole Going from 'when I get moderation powers' to being the only moderated poster I guess in Joeland, down really is up. 1- GAs inside the cell and yes data, like the ever evolving interenet, is an example of an algorithm residing inside teh thing it is changing. 2- YOU ate it wrt Shubin- as I said you have proven to be a dishonest intellectual child 3- Again you are clueless and so is Kevin, still 4- They had to stop me from exposing the evotardgasms And yes RichTARD FAIL, when YOU say I am down it does mean I kicked ass. joe maybe you could take some time off from getting fistfucked by reality pounding your spittle flecked keyboard trying to seduce Rich sharing your retardation with the entire fucking world ahem "posting" and do something productive instead of entertaining us to near death experiences. like, i bet it has been over a week since you have squatted 400 lbs, fixed a refrigerator or wrote a GA.  or got out of your chair and shit in the toilet instead of that invalid potty/computer seat of yours.   honestly dude.  i can't fucking take it anymore.  if you were any more retarded you would be hooked up to life support. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:45    RichTARD Hughes Chokes on Tiktaalik -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:46    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:43) Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 07 2012,16:40) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:38) ...when YOU say I am down it does mean I kicked ass. Yes, you did. Unfortunately (for you) it was your own ass. Well, you are my ass now, bitch. That's so sexy. How could anyone stay flacid? -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:46    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:45) RichTARD Hughes Chokes on Tiktaalik Sorry Joe. I have no interest in restarting an argument I've already comprehensively won in a forum you moderate. Again, you continue the age-old creationist ploy of repeating lies that are already debunked. Folks are welcome to read TSZ and make up their own minds. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:46    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:42) LoL! What "theory"? And it relies on living organisms and everything else it can't explain The one you have been railing against but have never bothered to learn. Theory of evolution does not "rely on living organisms," whatever that means. It assumes life originated at some point in time and takes it from there. -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout »

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:47    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 07 2012,16:44) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:40) RichTARD Hughes Passes the Cowardice Test- he is a coward. Yes, it has been a nice week for me... Sorry Joe. I have no interest in restarting an argument I've already comprehensively won in a forum you moderate. Again, you continue the age-old creationist ploy of repeating lies that are already debunked. Folks are welcome to read TSZ and make up their own minds. LoL! RichTARD "wins" are argument by making a bald assertion and then backing himself up by linking to his bald assertions. Yes RichTARD that is what I love about it- anyone can read it and see that you are a sorry-ass pizza boy -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:49    Quote (olegt @ Mar. 07 2012,16:46) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:42) LoL! What "theory"? And it relies on living organisms and everything else it can't explain The one you have been railing against but have never bothered to learn. Theory of evolution does not "rely on living organisms," whatever that means. It assumes life originated at some point in time and takes it from there. LoL! More false accusations- and oleg if the theory assumes living organisms originated at some point in time, that means it relies on living organisms. If you want to get real it also assumes there are magical mystery mutations... -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:49    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 07 2012,17:11) Joe, you're not going to change anything. Is it worth it? Think about the week you've had. data..... from..... star trek !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:49    Joe, When your cellular GA finds a new protein does the CSI go up, down or stay the same? -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:49    Is it wrong to keep winding him up or is anyone still enjoying it? I'm feeling sorry for him now, he's so unself-aware. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:50    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:49) If you want to get real it also assumes there are magical mystery mutations... And "we" have to explain the origin of the universe otherwise you win! yADAyada yip yip yip. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:51    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:49) LoL! More false accusations- and oleg if the theory assumes living organisms originated at some point in time, that means it relies on living organisms. If you want to get real it also assumes there are magical mystery mutations... Yes, and Newton's theory of gravity assumes there is magical force of gravity, right? And Einstein's theory of relativity assumes that mass curves spacetime. And Maxwell's electrodynamics assumes the existence of electric charges. What's exactly the problem with that? -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout »

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:52    We must explain everything at all times in minute detail, or it was design. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,16:57    Quote (afarensis @ Mar. 07 2012,17:19) Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 07 2012,15:55) Quote (olegt @ Mar. 07 2012,16:37)   Quote (afarensis @ Mar. 07 2012,15:35)   Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 07 2012,15:25)     Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 07 2012,15:17)     Quote (afarensis @ Mar. 07 2012,21:09)       Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 07 2012,14:01) Do opposites attract because they get a charge out of each other? yes, because they are all bipolar :p This is completely revolting and I simply don't have the capacitance for any more of it. I'm going to move to somewhere far, far aday. Watt is going on again?  I'm con-fused. I don't know but I'm totally amp'ed for it! Dunno watts this guy is talkin' about. Is his science current? it is not. Will he rectify the problem? He will not. maybe he needs some self inductance! Never gonna happen. Too much resistance. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,17:02    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 07 2012,16:38) 1- GAs inside the cell and yes data, like the ever evolving interenet, is an example of an algorithm residing inside teh thing it is changing. You may have a point. The Internet is after all a closed system that programs itself. It's not like people are adding content, writing software or physically putting down infrastructure like fiber and routers. Nor do bodies of humans meet to decide protocols for the movement of information therein. That's a great analogy. But 'lieutenant Data from Star Trek" was a little funnier. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2012,17:07    Maybe Joe is just tripping really strongly and for a long time, and is communicating with us as best he can. It explains alot! -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

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