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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,13:20   

Hmmph. I just checked my email and got that spam message that was being sent out from Dawkins' joint.

I emailed Calilasseia about it, including the headers from the email...then I come back here to find it's old news. Pfft.

P.S. Dembski: anyone can get hacked, dolt -- even you...remember?

I don't think this was much of a hack. I'm betting someone just cracked an admin PW

ETA: I see the warez forum in question is also using the same PhpBB software as Dawkins...so I'll revise that to a 'sploit and not keeping updated/plugging security holes.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,14:47   

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18  August  2009
The Water Strider: Evolution’s Gratuitous Explanations
Cornelius Hunter

New research is telling us more about how water striders, those bugs that walk on water, get such long legs. Read more
at the source of the tard


guess what you get when you follow the tard to the source.  that's right, even dummer

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New research is telling us more about how water striders, those bugs that walk on water, get such long legs. As usual the story is more complicated than evolution would have it. A regulatory gene that helps in the development of the water strider has opposite effects in different limbs, lengthening some and shortening others.

Incredibly, evolutionists were quick to add their gratuitous, scientifically meaningless, interpretation of the findings. As one evolutionist put it:

   Many have marveled at the ability of water striders to walk on water, and we are excited to have discovered the gene that has affected this evolutionary change.


How cogent. This would be like entering an automobile manufacturing plant, finding the robot that installs the doors, and claiming to have discovered how the doors evolved.


Corny appears to be saying
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genes = robots
 perhaps he would like to clear that up.  naaaah nevermind.  i don't talk to pig ignorant fuckers who are that determined to be publicly stupid, at least when i can help it.

I doubt that our systematically confused friend has ever perused a water strider under a microscope, so he must think that it's magic and has nothing to do with hydrophobic fan-like arrays of setae.  

sometimes you think "Shit-fire, I believe I have seen the stupidest things that UD has the capacity to offer" and then they get someone to type up a post by cornytard, submitted in a scrawling purple crayon.  good shit man that is really dumb stuff.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,14:49   

Is it just me, or does this seem to be the most common response to Corny's posts:

 
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Sorry, but I don’t get your point.


linky

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,15:00   

Quote (dmso74 @ Aug. 18 2009,14:49)
Is it just me, or does this seem to be the most common response to Corny's posts:

 
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Sorry, but I don’t get your point.


linky

The last half dozen posts have been too dumb even for the regulars. The Magnum opus on Wallace garnered a well deserved hit from one of the net's finest trolls.

And nothing more. Even Dembski can't raise anything to the bait.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,15:00   

yeah someone should point out to Mr Larry Tanner that looking for a point to CornyTard destroys the entire work of art that IS cornytard.  it's so mind numbingly stupid that it effortlessly resists any and all attempts to understand WTF it's on about.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,15:06   

StephenB    
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There is an inverse and proportional relationship between the Darwinist’s inability to reason and his capacity to be embarrassed about it.


Read the rest of the comment, it's a classic.

Also check out DonaldM getting pzoned.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,15:06   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Aug. 18 2009,16:00)
Quote (dmso74 @ Aug. 18 2009,14:49)
Is it just me, or does this seem to be the most common response to Corny's posts:

   
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Sorry, but I don’t get your point.


linky

The last half dozen posts have been too dumb even for the regulars. The Magnum opus on Wallace garnered a well deserved hit from one of the net's finest trolls.

And nothing more. Even Dembski can't raise anything to the bait.

that wallace thing was too stupid for me to try to read.  i find it hard to believe that the regular tard's appetite for stupidity is being quenched by these morsels, they are far too nutty and dry to soak up any jesus

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,15:08   

stephen is a tard.  from the passage linked to by OM

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Have you so soon forgotten: Darwinists at this site, with your blessing, assert with confidence that an automobile can be a part of a crankshaft because they will not acknowledge in principle that the whole is always greater than any one of its parts.


i don't think he can back that up.  analogy fail, again.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,15:17   

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Have you so soon forgotten: Darwinists at this site, with your blessing, assert with confidence that an automobile can be a part of a crankshaft because they will not acknowledge in principle that the whole is always greater than any one of its parts.


Hmmm. Wonder where he was during the lecture on emergence.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,15:21   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Aug. 18 2009,16:17)
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Have you so soon forgotten: Darwinists at this site, with your blessing, assert with confidence that an automobile can be a part of a crankshaft because they will not acknowledge in principle that the whole is always greater than any one of its parts.


Hmmm. Wonder where he was during the lecture on emergence.

standing outside waving his bible around and claiming that "emergence" is a sneaky trick evilutionists use to explain away the hand of god.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,15:36   

StephenB suggests a new banner to the UD entrance - not quite Dante, but apt nevertheless:
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...you are immersed in intellectual quicksand.


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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,16:17   

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Aug. 18 2009,14:47)
 
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18  August  2009
The Water Strider: Evolution’s Gratuitous Explanations
Cornelius Hunter

New research is telling us more about how water striders, those bugs that walk on water, get such long legs. Read more
at the source of the tard


guess what you get when you follow the tard to the source.  that's right, even dummer

 

No, Ras, don't follow the links!  Corny is blog whoring like Densy O'Dreary.

Hmm, has anybody ever seen Cornelius Hunter and Denyse O'Leary together?

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,16:24   

Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Aug. 18 2009,17:17)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Aug. 18 2009,14:47)
   
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18  August  2009
The Water Strider: Evolution’s Gratuitous Explanations
Cornelius Hunter

New research is telling us more about how water striders, those bugs that walk on water, get such long legs. Read more
at the source of the tard


guess what you get when you follow the tard to the source.  that's right, even dummer

 

No, Ras, don't follow the links!  Corny is blog whoring like Densy O'Dreary.

Hmm, has anybody ever seen Cornelius Hunter and Denyse O'Leary together?

No.  And I hope I never do.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,16:54   

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Aug. 18 2009,16:08)
stephen is a tard.  from the passage linked to by OM

   
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Have you so soon forgotten: Darwinists at this site, with your blessing, assert with confidence that an automobile can be a part of a crankshaft because they will not acknowledge in principle that the whole is always greater than any one of its parts.


i don't think he can back that up.  analogy fail, again.

Nor drive it forward.

ETA: Or am I slow?

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,16:55   

Quote (khan @ Aug. 18 2009,17:24)
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Aug. 18 2009,17:17)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Aug. 18 2009,14:47)
   
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18  August  2009
The Water Strider: Evolution’s Gratuitous Explanations
Cornelius Hunter

New research is telling us more about how water striders, those bugs that walk on water, get such long legs. Read more
at the source of the tard


guess what you get when you follow the tard to the source.  that's right, even dummer

 

No, Ras, don't follow the links!  Corny is blog whoring like Densy O'Dreary.

Hmm, has anybody ever seen Cornelius Hunter and Denyse O'Leary together?

No.  And I hope I never do.

corny + tranmaw = the beast with two eyebrows?

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,17:11   

Gil, in Bizzarro world, is 100% spot on
   
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Ken Miller is a real piece of work. Despite having been corrected repeatedly, he continues to insist upon misrepresenting Behe’s claims, and then attempting to destroy the misrepresentations (e.g., that the components of an irreducibly-complex system can’t have or couldn’t have had other functions, which Behe never suggested).

The bottom line is that Miller’s entire career (and perhaps even raison d’être) is so thoroughly invested in Darwinian orthodoxy that he must defend it by any means available, even resorting to misrepresenting critics and invoking self-contradictory pseudo-logic, like trying to convince people that God “created” humankind in His image through an unpurposed, undirected, stochastic process.

The second paragraph sums Gil up completely, if we substitute a couple of words. That Gil himself wrote it with no sense of irony or self awareness whatsoever is just a bonus. Many people at UD have been "corrected repeatedly" and yet still recite the same tired claims. Ever wonder why those claims only ever get mileage at UD Gil? .

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self-contradictory pseudo-logic

Yep, that's a fine description of what goes on at UD Gil, nice one.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,18:26   

I notice that Lamarck, moon landing denier, has come out as a 9/11 troofer...
 
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9/11 without question had US involvement.

(Whatever next - evolution denial?)
...and the regulars are stepping slowly away. tragic mishap:  
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lol @ lamarck

Go away, you’re embarrassing yourself.


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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,19:01   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Aug. 18 2009,16:55)
Quote (khan @ Aug. 18 2009,17:24)
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Aug. 18 2009,17:17)
 
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Aug. 18 2009,14:47)
     
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18  August  2009
The Water Strider: Evolution’s Gratuitous Explanations
Cornelius Hunter

New research is telling us more about how water striders, those bugs that walk on water, get such long legs. Read more
at the source of the tard


guess what you get when you follow the tard to the source.  that's right, even dummer

 

No, Ras, don't follow the links!  Corny is blog whoring like Densy O'Dreary.

Hmm, has anybody ever seen Cornelius Hunter and Denyse O'Leary together?

No.  And I hope I never do.

corny + tranmaw = the beast with two eyebrows?

It could be worse, Corny + Tranmaw+ Luskin= The beast with three eyebrows ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,19:24   

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I notice that Lamarck, moon landing denier, has come out as a 9/11 troofer...


Isn't the moronic convergence a thing of wonder?

UFO
ESP
HIV
911
Evolution
Immunization
Birth Cert
ETC

You could make an alternate Crank Index, and I bet they would track each other.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,19:43   

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Many people at UD have been "corrected repeatedly" and yet still recite the same tired claims. Ever wonder why those claims only ever get mileage at UD Gil? .


Obviously it's a conspiracy by the educated intelligent literate informed segment of society!!111!!one!!

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,19:46   

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Quack, posted 8/18/09 2:19 AM
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Defence money has always been magic.


Off topic, but while we are at it - read a story many years ago about Pentagon procurement - hammers at >$100 apiece. (Gold plated and numbered, with certificate?)


How do you think they pay for stuff that they don't want listed on the official records? ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,19:51   

Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 18 2009,19:46)
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Quack, posted 8/18/09 2:19 AM
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Defence money has always been magic.


Off topic, but while we are at it - read a story many years ago about Pentagon procurement - hammers at >$100 apiece. (Gold plated and numbered, with certificate?)


How do you think they pay for stuff that they don't want listed on the official records? ;)

Henry

District 9? That's ours. Just a neighborhood in Area 51.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,20:42   

Heh. Wee Billy put up a post on "The Social Media Revolution" complete with You Tard video linky.

In the vid, there's some graphics talking about stats and how "social networking" is teh wavez of teh futures. Anybody who wants to reach the masses better jump on it!!1shift!!

Problems for Dembski, ID and UD:

Stats show that the burgeoning raised-on-'puter generations ain't so easy to fool. Look at your failed attempts at "reaching out to teh youths," Billy.

More importantly for ID-Creationism...well, people in the under-35 crowd ain't flocking to religiously-based bullshit like ID.

Third, Billy, from http://www.alexa.com/ :

Uncommon Descent Stats -- Alexa ranking # 374,772
 

Dawkins' Forum Stats -- Alexa ranking # 19,031


So, Dawkins' is in the top 20k sites on the net, Billy. Your site is barely treading water. Keep in mind I only picked Dawkins' because you were crowing about how the site was hacked recently, Billy. I could have pointed to a dozen other pro-evolution/anti ID sites that have better stats... this despite Uncommon Descent being touted as the very font (okay, sewer) of Intelligent Design.

Along with your inability to publish anything meaningful backing up ID claims...well, you're just kinda screwed, Dembski.

And it couldn't happen to a more fitting weasel, Wee Willy.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,20:47   

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18 August 2009

The Social Media Revolution
William Dembski

The following YouTube video may seem overdrawn, but the social media described in it may prove critical in disarming Darwinism in the general culture:


this poor dumb bastard has dropped all pretenses of science or empirical truth.  what a sad cunt

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,20:59   

But he could put the twit in Twitter.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,21:16   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Aug. 18 2009,20:42)
Stats show that the burgeoning raised-on-'puter generations ain't so easy to fool. Look at your failed attempts at "reaching out to teh youths," Billy.

What choo talkin' about, Willis?

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,21:27   

Quote (dmso74 @ Aug. 18 2009,15:49)
Is it just me, or does this seem to be the most common response to Corny's posts:

   
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Sorry, but I don’t get your point.


linky

what about this one?

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Cornelius Hunter
08/18/2009
6:34 pm
Larry (1):

Sorry, but I don’t get your point.

Perhaps this is an example of what philosophers call incommensurability. Is it conceivable that this gene that causes (or helps to cause) the formation of the limbs is not the blind cause of the original appearance of the limbs, as the evolutionist so claims?

In other words, is it possible that the evolutionary account (which roughly is that there was this bug a long time ago which suffered some mutations which happened to result in a regulatory protein modifying the limb lengths just right so the bug could start to walk on water; it worked pretty well and some more mutations came along and made it work even better; and then some more mutations, and it worked really well) is not true?


is it possible that THAT account is not true?  very likely.

it is possible that Cornytard doesn't understand what the fuck he is talking about?  absolutely

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,22:35   

You have to admit that a random mutation modifying limb length the exact amount needed to reach the water is pretty improbable.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,23:28   

yeah because the first insect had leg lengths L1<L2<L3 so any deviation from that is a loss of information.  especially when it is phylogenetically conserved.  and the setae in Aquarius is so obviously a degeneration of ahem cough err HEY THERES AN ATHIEST BURN HIM!!!!11!!!!

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,23:41   

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Ahahahahahahaahahahahaha!1!one!!

GilDodgen is a tard (bolding mine):  
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Completely and totally off-topic:
From time to time I Google my name to check out the latest vitriol and abject hatred directed at me by Darwinists. I was amazed to discover that there is a reference to my Masters thesis, written in French in 1977, about the great French aviation pioneer and author, Antoine de Saint Exupéry. His best known work is The Little Prince. At that time I was pursuing degrees in music and foreign language and literature, and building and flying hang gliders on the weekends.
Saint Exupéry was an inspiration, for obvious reasons, so I read his entire opus in French and wrote my thesis on his life and literature.
Here is what I would like to know: To the best of my knowledge, there are only two copies of my Masters thesis — one in my personal library and one in the library archives at Washington State University.
How did this end up on the Internet?
http://openlibrary.org/b/OL167.....pe%CC%81ry
Here’s a link about Saint Exupéry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.....up%C3%A9ry




Anyone wanna try and get a copy of Gildo's thesis?

While trying to get caught up on posts here, I came across this one above and checked the out the first link regarding the Exupéry paper. It has an, uh, interesting "book cover" associated with it.

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