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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2008,14:17   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Sep. 12 2008,14:20)
There are some people for whom diffusion filters and anamorphic lenses simply are not enough.

Couple of pints of vaseline on the lens help any?

Louis

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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2008,14:17   

Sometimes you just need the Vaseline jar lid.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2008,14:19   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Sep. 12 2008,20:17)
Sometimes you just need the Vaseline jar lid.

Words of wisdom.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2008,14:30   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Sep. 11 2008,21:13)
Pressing your point is what got me banned at UD:
 
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...It is obviously an empirical question whether IC structures as defined by Behe and Dembski (quoted above) can arise by stepwise means. Karl’s assertions were on point (although open to debate vis correctness) vis these definitions.

In contrast, the sacred cow definition of IC in 170 - essentially, “complex structures that cannot be built step-wise” places the possibility of IC structures built by NS out of reach by definitional fiat. As the Church Lady said, “How conveeeeenient.”

It would be helpful if ID would settle on one definition or the other.

Larry Fafarman said that. I remember when he said that if something designated as IC turned out to have evolved, then by definition it wasn't really IC in the first place. That was the moment I knew he was touched in the head.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2008,19:08   

A rare DaveScot sighting outside his lair.  Will he stay to dig himself in deeper or bravely run away?

[where's my $$#&^# popcorn??]

Caveat: he posted yesterday, and hasn't yet replied to Mike's (excellent) rebuttal.

ETA: excellent

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2008,19:28   

Def read that stuff if you want to see Davetard humiliated.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2008,21:54   

Louis:

A couple of pints, or even more, help immensely, as does Vaseline. But speaking on behalf of Dave Scot, how did you know?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2008,21:55   

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Denyse is experiencing cleavage envy:  
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Then all we need is more useless pundettes who flunked Grade Six math freaking out over why anyone supposes that the universe shows evidence of design. Pundette cannot get through her own day without sixteen image assistants/consultants, so that proves her point conclusively, right?

Yuh. Camera Two, dolly in to cleavage.

I love Fuller talking about the play he's written:
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Writing a dramatic work had been an interesting experience, he said. “(It) requires a different kind of thinking from normal academic work.
Yeah, writing fiction is a bit different from writing a scientific paper.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,03:59   

I just returned from a jaunt in the Old Country, where I met Prof. Steve Steve I think someone must have taken out an injunction to ban the appearance of the photos of him in the gents at The Geological Society), amongst other luminaries.  Did I miss much whilst I was away?  A quick skim through the last couple of pages suggests that Dave is still acting like Dave.  Anything else?  Has Denyse learned how to write clearly?

Incidentally, I know both of the authors of the superstition paper.  I even looked after the first author's girlfriend's squirrel cat a few years ago.  My brush with fame (other than meeting Prof. Steve, of course).

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,06:56   

Quote (Amadan @ Sep. 11 2008,05:07)
The Discovery Institute today unveiled a multi-million dollar PR apparatus known as the Logicless Harangue Collider (LHC).

[snip]


Belated, but done.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,07:54   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Sep. 13 2008,12:56)
Quote (Amadan @ Sep. 11 2008,05:07)
The Discovery Institute today unveiled a multi-million dollar PR apparatus known as the Logicless Harangue Collider (LHC).

[snip]


Belated, but done.

We all understand you are busy, so no criticism is implied or intended, but I think Amadan gets a whole extra hour of POTWhood for this oversight.

;-)

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,09:14   

Quote (Louis @ Sep. 13 2008,08:54)
We all understand you are busy, so no criticism is implied or intended, but I think Amadan gets a whole extra hour of POTWhood for this oversight.

;-)

Louis

:)

I appreciate y'all's understanding of my suddenly limited time to spend here, I really do.

But with that, I'll have to beg off for a while, as I have a Biology lab to peer review (in our limited Bio 111 way) (due Monday), another English essay to write (due Monday), a ton of precalc homework to complete (due Wednesday night), a precalc quiz to study for (also Wednesday night), and my first Biology exam (on Wednesday morning) to study for. Also, I think there was something I needed to do for Spanish class (for Tuesday), though I'm currently at a total loss to tell you what exactly that was.

Therefore, Amadan is hereby awarded the whole day to bask in the glory of his PotWhood.

Ta.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,09:19   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Sep. 13 2008,15:14)
[SNIP]

Therefore, Amadan is hereby awarded the whole day to bask in the glory of his PotWhood.

[SNIP]

No greater love hath man than this....

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,10:26   

I say Davescot will be gone from UD soon. It appears he's the temerity to disagree with O'Leary and Casey Luskin.

O'Leary announces a new podcast:
     
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LeVake, a former high school biology teacher, informally expressed doubts about evolution to a colleague who then reported him to the principal. LeVake ended up losing his biology position, not because he taught creationism or intelligent design, but merely because he expressed reservations about evolution to a colleague. Listen as he tells his story of clear academic persecution.


SCheesman brings some facts to the table:
     
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As much as I’d like to agree with this post, the appeals court decision is easily available on-line. In it it is evident that LeVake had made it quite clear that he could/would not teach the course as prescribed, and it was this fact, not the fact that he had expressed doubts about evolution in a conversation, that led to his dismissal.

Davescot agrees
     
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I’m going to have to go ahead and agree with SCheesman except for the stink of facism.

Rather then attempt to defend her point O'Leary simply relinks to the podcast. Oh well, if in doubt, do what you know eh O'Leary?      
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I don’t know if this second half will change any minds, but here it is. If fascism was involved (and it well could be), its key characteristic is that the person expressed private doubts, which resulted in public action.

Finally sweaty Casey Luskin brings in the big guns:
     
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I urge you to listen to the podcasts. In them, Mr. LeVake makes it clear that the court misconstrued the facts of the situation to suit its own purpose: LeVake never refused to teach the curriculum, and in fact the events which led to the case took place BEFORE he even taught evolution.

Davescot hits back:
     
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The court decision (the other side of the story) is an obligatory read for any objective observer. That fact that no one provided a link to it stinks of biased reporting.

http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.....001613.htm

LeVake gave written notice of his intention to teach evolution in a manner contrary to the prescribed curriculum. That is a fact in the case and it is uncontested by LeVake.

One has to wonder how long before Davescot comes to realise that these people are not constrained by something so simple as facts.

And biased reporting? The discovery institute? Say it ain't so! Are the scales finally falling from his eyes?

I've saved the page as it existed at the time of this post. Lets just say for "reference".

http://www.hotshare.net/file/80566-1706404091.html

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,10:53   

The podcast is an interesting listen. Particularly with the facts in hand, as laid out in the court decision. Facts that include LeVake's own written statement of intention to inject into the classroom material of his own invention ("I will also accompany that treatment of evolution with an honest look at the difficulties and inconsistencies of the theory" - which "difficulties" his discussion with Luskin makes clear are limited to standard creationist chestnuts), in direct contravention of the curriculum.

And interesting to listen to LeVake and Luskin collaborate in creating a bald-faced lie: that LeVake was punished for a "purely a thought crime," when in fact he was barred from teaching high school biology as a result his written statement of intention to inject non-curricular materials into his classroom. Interesting to directly watch Luskin distribute red herrings, indirection and irrelevancies (no, he didn't teach creationism, no, he hadn't yet injected these materials into a class - he had only stated his intention to do so in writing, no he didn't present intelligent design, etc.)

And interesting to watch Uncommonly Denyse get it all wrong (LeVake wasn't fired or demoted).

And, lastly, interesting to watch DaveScot's capacity for rational thought flicker on from time to time.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,11:22   

Just shows how far out Luskin is.  

He trots out this loser LeVake, whose case (argued by Pat Robertson's ACLJ) sank like a rock: (i) A district court summarily dismissed it.  (ii) An appellate court agreed with the district court.  (iii) The Minnesota Supreme Court declined to hear the case.  (iv) The US Supreme Court did the same.  Linky.

And now, adding insult to injury, hard-core nuts at UD tell Casey to go pound sand.  O, brother...

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,11:23   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Sep. 13 2008,16:53)
[SNIP]

And, lastly, interesting to watch DaveScot's capacity for rational thought flicker on from time to time.

I wonder who is madder, DaveTard or Farfromsane. Granted, Larry is mad in that frothing nudist running through the shopping mall flinging his own shit about way, but Dave has a pair of mental blinkers on that border on the magnificent. One minute he is (justifiably) taking the whackier religious denizens of UD to task for their Darwin=Hitler antics and obvious bias, the next minute he is claiming to be a world expert on everything based on a multi-decade old SAT score derived IQ and a Sci Am subscription.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,12:25   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Sep. 13 2008,08:53)
The podcast is an interesting listen.

What I find so weird is that LeFlake trots out the same creationist BS that we have refuted for decades. This jackass has taken money for decades as a 'teacher' and is grossly ignorant.

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II. Free Speech

Determining a public employee's free speech rights is a difficult task. A reviewing court must analyze the

   balance between the interests of the [public employee], as a citizen, in commenting upon matters of public concern and the interests of the State, as an employer, in promoting the efficiency of the public services it performs through its employees.

Finch v. Wemlinger, 361 N.W.2d 865, 870 (Minn. 1985) (quoting Pickering v. Board of Education, 391 U.S. 563, 568, 88 S. Ct. 1731, 1734 (1968)). Further, critical to determining if a public employee's speech is entitled to protection, is whether the speech is “made primarily in the [employee's] role as a citizen or primarily in his role as an employee.” Terrell v. University of Tex. Sys. Police, 792 F.2d 1360, 1362 (5th Cir. 1986), cert. denied, 479 U.S. 1064 (1987). LeVake has the burden of showing that “his conduct was constitutionally protected, and that this conduct was a substantial factor or * * * motivating factor” in respondents' decision to reassign him. Mount Healthy City Sch. Dist. Bd. of Educ. v. Doyle, 429 U.S. 274, 287, 97 S. Ct. 568, 576 (1977) (citation omitted).

LeVake argues that respondents reassigned him to silence his criticism of evolution, which infringed upon his rights of free speech and academic freedom. He asserts that the material he wants to teach his students is lawful and does not impinge on any important state interests.

The classroom is a “marketplace of ideas,” and academic freedom should be safeguarded. Keyishian v. Board of Regents, 385 U.S. 589, 603, 87 S. Ct. 675, 683 (1967). But Levake, in his role as a public school teacher rather than as a private citizen, wanted to discuss the criticisms of evolution. LeVake's position paper established that he does not believe the theory of evolution is credible. Further, LeVake's proposed method of teaching evolution is in direct conflict with respondents' curriculum requirements. See Clark v. Holmes, 474 F.2d 928, 931 (7th Cir. 1972) (recognizing teacher had no First Amendment right to override judgment of superiors regarding proper course content). Accordingly, the established curriculum and LeVake's responsibility as a public school teacher to teach evolution in the manner prescribed by the curriculum overrides his First Amendment rights as a private citizen. See Webster v. New Lenox Sch. Dist. No. 122, 917 F.2d 1004, 1007 (7th Cir. 1990) (recognizing compelling state interest in choice and adherence to suitable curriculum for benefit of young students overrides individual teachers' desire to teach what they please).

Based on LeVake's belief that evolution is not a viable theory, respondents' concern about his inability to teach the prescribed curriculum was well-founded. Thus, the district court did not err in granting respondents' motion for summary judgment because LeVake did not demonstrate a genuine issue of material fact regarding his claim that respondents violated his right to free speech. (emphasis added)


This was the most relevant section from "STATE OF MINNESOTA, IN COURT OF APPEALS, C8-00-1613"

I would personally have phrased the bolded sentence differently. Something like, "Because LeVake's belief that evolution is not a viable theory seems from a fundamental ignorance of the theory of evolution and its scientific basis, respondents' concern about his inability to teach the prescribed curriculum was well-founded.

Edited by Dr.GH on Sep. 13 2008,10:46

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,16:29   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 13 2008,11:26)
I say Davescot will be gone from UD soon. It appears he's the temerity to disagree with O'Leary and Casey Luskin.

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One has to wonder how long before Davescot comes to realise that these people are not constrained by something so simple as facts.

And biased reporting? The discovery institute? Say it ain't so! Are the scales finally falling from his eyes?

He was already booted from the secret listserv for not being a perfect little marching robot. If he can't accommodate straight up lies told by Discovery Institute people, that situation's going to come to a head.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,16:53   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 13 2008,16:29)
   
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 13 2008,11:26)
I say Davescot will be gone from UD soon. It appears he's the temerity to disagree with O'Leary and Casey Luskin.

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One has to wonder how long before Davescot comes to realise that these people are not constrained by something so simple as facts.

And biased reporting? The discovery institute? Say it ain't so! Are the scales finally falling from his eyes?

He was already booted from the secret listserv for not being a perfect little marching robot. If he can't accommodate straight up lies told by Discovery Institute people, that situation's going to come to a head.

I doubt it.  We all, at one time or another, have worked with someone like Dave. They either have a narrow piece of expertise that no one else has or they do a job that no else wants to do.  Once people like that realize the power that gives them, they become generally insufferable and you need to allow them to revel in that power to get anything out of them.

Dave is the resident bouncer over at UD.  Dembski is, for the most part, too prideful to actually deal with the proles over there. And O'Leary is just too damn inept, as witnessed by her epic fail dealing with the disemvoweler during her one, short-lived stint as moderator. All the other contributors have day jobs of one form or another, rendering them unsuitable to maintain strict editorial control over the comments. In short, Dave has found his little niche in the culture war and knows that he has job security.  Whether he is having a rational moment or is just taking the opportunity to tweak O'Leary a bit is not clear.  Let's see how long he maintains his contribution to the LeVake thread*.

* I would rate it more likely than not that his objection to the Expelled Darwin=Nazi storyline was a truly principled stand.  He maintained that position consistently over a number of threads and an extended period of time. Dave is lazy**. If he is just taking the piss out of Denyse, he'll tire of it quickly and wander off.  If he truly believes it, he'll persist.

** Remember this? QED. Lazy to the core.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,16:58   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 13 2008,14:29)
 
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 13 2008,11:26)
I say Davescot will be gone from UD soon. It appears he's the temerity to disagree with O'Leary and Casey Luskin.

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One has to wonder how long before Davescot comes to realise that these people are not constrained by something so simple as facts.

And biased reporting? The discovery institute? Say it ain't so! Are the scales finally falling from his eyes?

He was already booted from the secret listserv for not being a perfect little marching robot. If he can't accommodate straight up lies told by Discovery Institute people, that situation's going to come to a head.

I must disagree, for two reasons:

1) UD is the only place in the world where Dave can play Beta Male. He gets to smite people, insult them, and toss them out with no oversight. In no other place in the world would people take Dave seriously for 20 seconds. This is all Dave has to prop up his fragile, wingnutty ego. He's a nobody everywhere else. If he thinks he's on the verge of losing this, he will pull back.

2) Dave consitutes free labor. There's no way Bill can find another person willing to be his flunky and put in all those hours of free work in bossing his website. Bill ain't gonna fire him without a replacement, and who else would combine the same diligence, servility and belligerence? Bill will put up with a lot for that.

My prediction: expect Dave to be at UD forever, or until Bill finally gets sick of it and pulls the plug in 20 years.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,17:02   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 13 2008,16:58)
I must disagree, for two reasons:

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,17:56   

Quote (Louis @ Sep. 12 2008,12:17)
Couple of pints of vaseline on the lens help any?

So, that's one of your standard pickup lines, is it Louis?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,18:00   

Dembski enlists the formidable intellects at UD for a discussion of Joel Isaacson's "fantomarks":
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Have a look at Joel Isaacson’s paper “The Intelligence Nexus in Space Exploration”. I’d like to encourage discussion on this thread concerning what you think about Isaacson’s notion of “fantomarks”?

From Isaacson's paper:
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What are "fantomarks"? Well, let's first examine what "marks" are. In physical-symbol systems (including conventional digital computers), "mark" is a generic name for physical signals of all kinds, and for physical symbols or their representations in term of physical bit-signal patterns. In short, "marks" are physical carriers of information that is being manipulated. "Fantomark" stands for phantom-mark. Fantomarks are information carriers that cannot be sensed or detected or recorded by human beings, and/or other living things or systems, and/or instruments, devices, or systems made by human beings. Patterns of fantomarks, while not physically perceivable to a cognitive subject, also have local differences, just as patterns of physical marks have differences. These local differences constitute patterns in their own right (dubbed "streaks") that correlate with the underlying fantomark patterns, but are not coincident with them. Streaks are derivative entities, and are physical. If a subject has access to a given streak, it can process it as a source of information based on a basic principle which states that:

WITH RESPECT TO ANY SPATIAL OR SPATIO-TEMPORAL SPACE OF ANY DIMENSIONALITY THAT EMITS PATTERNS OF SIGNALS, ABSOLUTELY NO COGNITIVE FUNCTION IS POSSIBLE UNLESS A COGNITIVE SUBJECT HAS THE CAPACITY TO LOCALLY MAKE AND RECORD SIGNAL-DISCRIMINATIONS. IF THE SUBJECT DOES POSSESS THIS CAPACITY, THEN SUCH CAPACITY IS THE ULTIMATE GENESIS OF ANY COGNITION, OR LEVEL OF COGNITION, THAT MAY DEVELOP IN THE SUBJECT. (Isaacson, 1987, see [4])


Dembski is constitutionally incapable of recognizing the telltale signs of wingnuttery, including the ALL-CAPS MEGA-SHOUT.  Does he really need that crew of mouth-breathers to tell him that this is a crock of shit?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,19:33   

Formidable intellects at UD seem to be about as detectable as "fantomarks".

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,20:12   

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Fantomarks are information carriers that cannot be sensed or detected or recorded by human beings, and/or other living things or systems, and/or instruments, devices, or systems made by human beings.


*blink*

So, what is he talking about, then?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2008,21:41   

Quote (Maya @ Sep. 13 2008,20:12)
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Fantomarks are information carriers that cannot be sensed or detected or recorded by human beings, and/or other living things or systems, and/or instruments, devices, or systems made by human beings.


*blink*

So, what is he talking about, then?

(Edited to fix my tags.  Thanks for the button!)

Oh NO!  Dembski's going crazy about angels again!

Somebody take the holy water away from him before he hurts someone.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2008,01:12   

Is Davetard pushing his luck? On the fantomarks thread Dave says:

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Uh, yeah. I think I’m going to have to go ahead and call BS.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-295565

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2008,02:32   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 14 2008,01:12)
Is Davetard pushing his luck? On the fantomarks thread Dave says:

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DaveScot

09/14/2008

12:46 am

Uh, yeah. I think I’m going to have to go ahead and call BS.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-295565

Hard to say. The paper Dembski is talking about is clearly anti-ID. On the other hand, fantomarks do sound a little bit like Dembski's zero wavelength thingy and I can see how he would be attracted by the idea because it kind of sounds like it might be a mechanism for the designer to impart information into the natural world...

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2008,04:23   

Wow.

Each site in the O'Leary blog farm now solicits a "suggested donation":
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You like this blog? Feed the kitty! $10 suggested.

How much money do you think it would take to get her to stop blogging?

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