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Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,12:44    CO2 does not cause an increase in temperatures. That is because the earth is NOT a greenhouse and it is not a car with its windows up. Do weather forecasters have to know the CO2 content before making their forecast? No. Why? Because CO2 does NOT cause an increase in temps. It just causes the heat to stay around a little longer. That alone is enough to skew the average daily temps making it appear warmer. That is a fact. Only morons think that CO2 causes higher temps. If that were true then every day we should see record highs as we have record highs of atmospheric CO2. CO2 only absorbs and emits the infrared @ 2.7, 4.3 and 15 microns (of which 15 is the major part), which is only about 8% of what the Earth radiates. The other 92% is invisible to CO2. And at 410 parts per million it also means every molecule of atmospheric CO2 is surrounded by just over 2400 molecules of non-CO2. Think of a "blanket" with the (single) thread surrounded by that much empty space or a screen with openings 2400x that of the wire. Neither is going to trap anything. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,13:45    OK, so the earth starts losing 100% of all of its black-body radiation wavelengths. And say the CO2 sends 4% of 410ppm of that back towards the surface (but most likely never reaching it). Does anyone really think that is going to warm the surface? If you give someone $1 and they give you 410 ppm of 4 cents did you make money? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,14:37    Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,13:45) OK, so the earth starts losing 100% of all of its black-body radiation wavelengths. And say the CO2 sends 4% of 410ppm of that back towards the surface (but most likely never reaching it). Does anyone really think that is going to warm the surface? If you give someone $1 and they give you 410 ppm of 4 cents did you make money? BWAHAHAHAHA!!!  Here comes the really hilarious part where Joke's tiny fat-encrusted brain realizes he's made a huge blunder so he has to try and lie his way out of it. Sorry Joke the energy absorbed and re-emitted back to Earth isn't "4% of 410 ppm".   It's 4% of the ORIGINAL TOTAL being radiated from the Earth.  And YES moron, that is plenty of energy to raise the average temperature of the planet noticeably more than if none of the original energy was returned. If you lose a dollar but someone gives you back 4 cents, YES you have more money than you would if they gave you back nothing. Joke Gallien, the world's dumbest YEC.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,15:00    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,14:37) Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,13:45) OK, so the earth starts losing 100% of all of its black-body radiation wavelengths. And say the CO2 sends 4% of 410ppm of that back towards the surface (but most likely never reaching it). Does anyone really think that is going to warm the surface? If you give someone $1 and they give you 410 ppm of 4 cents did you make money? BWAHAHAHAHA!!!  Here comes the really hilarious part where Joke's tiny fat-encrusted brain realizes he's made a huge blunder so he has to try and lie his way out of it. Sorry Joe the energy absorbed and re-emitted back to Earth isn't "4% of 410 ppm".   It's 4% of the ORIGINAL TOTAL being radiated from the Earth.  And YES moron, that is plenty of energy to raise the average temperature of the planet noticeably more than if none of the original energy was returned. If you lose a dollar but someone gives you back 4 cents, YES you have more money than you would if they gave you back nothing. Joe Gallien, the world's dumbest YEC.   :D How can it be 4% of the total? Please show your work? If it's 4% of the original total then why does the concentration matter? And why does it take super sensitive equipment and data adjusting to "notice" any difference? Only a moron would think that losing 96 cents = you are gaining 4 cents. Enter timmy -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,15:05    Quote Sorry Joe the energy absorbed and re-emitted back to Earth isn't "4% of 410 ppm".   It's 4% of the ORIGINAL TOTAL being radiated from the Earth. By your "logic" the CO2 concentration doesn't matter. Does anyone agree with timmy that the amount re-emitted by CO2 back towards the earth does NOT depend on how much CO2 is in the atmosphere? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,15:05    Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:34) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,10:31) Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:24) your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. It would only radiate back 1/2 of that 8% that hits it. Joke, which will be warmer? 1. A body with a blanket which radiates back 1/2 of the 8% energy that hits the blanket. 2. A body with no blanket. Joke Gallien, spinless coward and world's dumbest YEC.   :D timmy loves humping a strawman. Your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. There wouldn't be any barrier 410 ppm. But how many parts per square meter? Or do you think that the atmosphere is only one molecule thick.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,15:07    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:05) Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:34) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,10:31)   Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:24) your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. It would only radiate back 1/2 of that 8% that hits it. Joke, which will be warmer? 1. A body with a blanket which radiates back 1/2 of the 8% energy that hits the blanket. 2. A body with no blanket. Joke Gallien, spinless coward and world's dumbest YEC.   :D timmy loves humping a strawman. Your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. There wouldn't be any barrier 410 ppm. But how many parts per square meter? Or do you think that the atmosphere is only one molecule thick. Umm, your position is the one treating the atmosphere as 2 dimensional, dipshit. But nice try at a goalpost move -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,15:09    blowTARD: Quote Or do you think that the atmosphere is only one molecule thick. Your brain is only one molecule thick. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,15:11    Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,15:00)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,14:37)       Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,13:45) OK, so the earth starts losing 100% of all of its black-body radiation wavelengths. And say the CO2 sends 4% of 410ppm of that back towards the surface (but most likely never reaching it). Does anyone really think that is going to warm the surface? If you give someone $1 and they give you 410 ppm of 4 cents did you make money? BWAHAHAHAHA!!!  Here comes the really hilarious part where Joke's tiny fat-encrusted brain realizes he's made a huge blunder so he has to try and lie his way out of it. Sorry Joe the energy absorbed and re-emitted back to Earth isn't "4% of 410 ppm".   It's 4% of the ORIGINAL TOTAL being radiated from the Earth.  And YES moron, that is plenty of energy to raise the average temperature of the planet noticeably more than if none of the original energy was returned. If you lose a dollar but someone gives you back 4 cents, YES you have more money than you would if they gave you back nothing. Joe Gallien, the world's dumbest YEC.   How can it be 4% of the total? Please show your work? If it's 4% of the original total then why does the concentration matter? And why does it take super sensitive equipment and data adjusting to "notice" any difference? Only a moron would think that losing 96 cents = you are gaining 4 cents. Enter timmy LOL!  Look at the fat Joke squirm to get his foot out of his mouth! CO2 molecules re-emit to Earth 4% of the total outgoing energy they absorbs. If you increase the number of CO2 molecules you increase the total amount of energy absorbed and re-emitted. Christ you're a dumbfuck Joke. Only as asshole like Joke would think 4 cents is less than 0 cents. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,15:13    Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,12:16) And unless the CO2 is close to the surface the radiation it emits doesn't have a chance of reaching it. Joke is trying to win the award for stupidest thing ever said. He might win with this one.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,15:13    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:05)   Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:34)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,10:31)     Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:24) your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. It would only radiate back 1/2 of that 8% that hits it. Joke, which will be warmer? 1. A body with a blanket which radiates back 1/2 of the 8% energy that hits the blanket. 2. A body with no blanket. Joke Gallien, spinless coward and world's dumbest YEC.   timmy loves humping a strawman. Your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. There wouldn't be any barrier 410 ppm. But how many parts per square meter? Or do you think that the atmosphere is only one molecule thick. Joke still hasn't figured out how blankets work.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,15:16    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:13)   Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,12:16) And unless the CO2 is close to the surface the radiation it emits doesn't have a chance of reaching it. Joke is trying to win the award for stupidest thing ever said. He might win with this one. I dunno, there's an awful lot of competition.  For my money his claim CO2 molecules can't cause the planet to warm unless they all point the right way is still the clubhouse leader.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,15:19    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,15:13) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:05)     Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:34)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,10:31)       Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:24) your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. It would only radiate back 1/2 of that 8% that hits it. Joke, which will be warmer? 1. A body with a blanket which radiates back 1/2 of the 8% energy that hits the blanket. 2. A body with no blanket. Joke Gallien, spinless coward and world's dumbest YEC.   :D timmy loves humping a strawman. Your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. There wouldn't be any barrier 410 ppm. But how many parts per square meter? Or do you think that the atmosphere is only one molecule thick. Joke still hasn't figured out how blankets work.   :D Which is surprising given that he has been carrying the same security blanket around for 50+ years.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,15:21    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,15:16) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:13)   Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,12:16) And unless the CO2 is close to the surface the radiation it emits doesn't have a chance of reaching it. Joke is trying to win the award for stupidest thing ever said. He might win with this one. I dunno, there's an awful lot of competition.  For my money his claim CO2 molecules can't cause the planet to warm unless they all point the right way is still the clubhouse leader.   :) I don’t know. My money is still on Frequency = Wavelength.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,15:33    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:21)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,15:16)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:13)       Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,12:16) And unless the CO2 is close to the surface the radiation it emits doesn't have a chance of reaching it. Joke is trying to win the award for stupidest thing ever said. He might win with this one. I dunno, there's an awful lot of competition.  For my money his claim CO2 molecules can't cause the planet to warm unless they all point the right way is still the clubhouse leader.   I don’t know. My money is still on Frequency = Wavelength. Joke really deserves his own wing at the FSTDT museum.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,15:41    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:05) Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:34) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,10:31)   Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:24) your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. It would only radiate back 1/2 of that 8% that hits it. Joke, which will be warmer? 1. A body with a blanket which radiates back 1/2 of the 8% energy that hits the blanket. 2. A body with no blanket. Joke Gallien, spinless coward and world's dumbest YEC.   :D timmy loves humping a strawman. Your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. There wouldn't be any barrier 410 ppm. But how many parts per square meter? Or do you think that the atmosphere is only one molecule thick. For people interested in the answer (read: not Joe), that would be about 110,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 molecules of CO2 at STP.  Feel free to lop off a couple zeroes for higher temps and lower pressure. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,16:37    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,15:11) Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,15:00)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,14:37)       Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,13:45) OK, so the earth starts losing 100% of all of its black-body radiation wavelengths. And say the CO2 sends 4% of 410ppm of that back towards the surface (but most likely never reaching it). Does anyone really think that is going to warm the surface? If you give someone $1 and they give you 410 ppm of 4 cents did you make money? BWAHAHAHAHA!!!  Here comes the really hilarious part where Joke's tiny fat-encrusted brain realizes he's made a huge blunder so he has to try and lie his way out of it. Sorry Joe the energy absorbed and re-emitted back to Earth isn't "4% of 410 ppm".   It's 4% of the ORIGINAL TOTAL being radiated from the Earth.  And YES moron, that is plenty of energy to raise the average temperature of the planet noticeably more than if none of the original energy was returned. If you lose a dollar but someone gives you back 4 cents, YES you have more money than you would if they gave you back nothing. Joe Gallien, the world's dumbest YEC.   :D How can it be 4% of the total? Please show your work? If it's 4% of the original total then why does the concentration matter? And why does it take super sensitive equipment and data adjusting to "notice" any difference? Only a moron would think that losing 96 cents = you are gaining 4 cents. Enter timmy LOL!  Look at the fat Joke squirm to get his foot out of his mouth! CO2 molecules re-emit to Earth 4% of the total outgoing energy they absorbs. If you increase the number of CO2 molecules you increase the total amount of energy absorbed and re-emitted. Wow, timmy is confused. First it sez that CO2 concentration matters, then it sez it doesn't and now it matters again. Timmy the loser thinks that losing 96 cents = gaining 4 cents -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,16:38    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:13) Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,12:16) And unless the CO2 is close to the surface the radiation it emits doesn't have a chance of reaching it. Joke is trying to win the award for stupidest thing ever said. He might win with this one. I know that you think it's stupid but then again you are a moron who couldn't support the claim it is stupid if your life depended on it. That means that you are still a little imp coward -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,16:41    Quote (Texas Teach @ July 21 2018,15:41) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:05) Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:34)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,10:31)   Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:24) your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. It would only radiate back 1/2 of that 8% that hits it. Joke, which will be warmer? 1. A body with a blanket which radiates back 1/2 of the 8% energy that hits the blanket. 2. A body with no blanket. Joke Gallien, spinless coward and world's dumbest YEC.   :D timmy loves humping a strawman. Your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. There wouldn't be any barrier 410 ppm. But how many parts per square meter? Or do you think that the atmosphere is only one molecule thick. For people interested in the answer (read: not Joe), that would be about 110,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 molecules of CO2 at STP.  Feel free to lop off a couple zeroes for higher temps and lower pressure. And multiply that by 2400 to get the number of non-GHG molecules in that same space. It still remains that the Earth doesn't emit anything until it is warmer than the atmosphere. And unless the CO2 with the absorbed energy is warmer than the surface the 2nd law says it ain't going to make it to the earth when it is emitted. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,16:43    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:21) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,15:16) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:13)     Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,12:16) And unless the CO2 is close to the surface the radiation it emits doesn't have a chance of reaching it. Joke is trying to win the award for stupidest thing ever said. He might win with this one. I dunno, there's an awful lot of competition.  For my money his claim CO2 molecules can't cause the planet to warm unless they all point the right way is still the clubhouse leader.   :) I don’t know. My money is still on Frequency = Wavelength. Right. You are too stupid to understand that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in certain contexts. So how is your ignorance any reflection on me? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,16:43    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,15:13) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:05)     Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:34)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,10:31)       Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:24) your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. It would only radiate back 1/2 of that 8% that hits it. Joke, which will be warmer? 1. A body with a blanket which radiates back 1/2 of the 8% energy that hits the blanket. 2. A body with no blanket. Joke Gallien, spinless coward and world's dumbest YEC.   :D timmy loves humping a strawman. Your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. There wouldn't be any barrier 410 ppm. But how many parts per square meter? Or do you think that the atmosphere is only one molecule thick. Joke still hasn't figured out how blankets work.   :D timmy is still a desperate little faggot liar. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,16:43    Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,16:37) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,15:11)   Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,15:00)         Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,14:37)         Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,13:45) OK, so the earth starts losing 100% of all of its black-body radiation wavelengths. And say the CO2 sends 4% of 410ppm of that back towards the surface (but most likely never reaching it). Does anyone really think that is going to warm the surface? If you give someone $1 and they give you 410 ppm of 4 cents did you make money? BWAHAHAHAHA!!!  Here comes the really hilarious part where Joke's tiny fat-encrusted brain realizes he's made a huge blunder so he has to try and lie his way out of it. Sorry Joe the energy absorbed and re-emitted back to Earth isn't "4% of 410 ppm".   It's 4% of the ORIGINAL TOTAL being radiated from the Earth.  And YES moron, that is plenty of energy to raise the average temperature of the planet noticeably more than if none of the original energy was returned. If you lose a dollar but someone gives you back 4 cents, YES you have more money than you would if they gave you back nothing. Joe Gallien, the world's dumbest YEC.   How can it be 4% of the total? Please show your work? If it's 4% of the original total then why does the concentration matter? And why does it take super sensitive equipment and data adjusting to "notice" any difference? Only a moron would think that losing 96 cents = you are gaining 4 cents. Enter timmy LOL!  Look at the fat Joke squirm to get his foot out of his mouth! CO2 molecules re-emit to Earth 4% of the total outgoing energy they absorbs. If you increase the number of CO2 molecules you increase the total amount of energy absorbed and re-emitted. Wow, timmy is confused. First it sez that CO2 concentration matters, then it sez it doesn't and now it matters again. Timmy the loser thinks that losing 96 cents = gaining 4 cents Not only is Joke too stupid to understand haw a blanket works, Joke is also too stupid to understand why a thicker blanket will keep you warmer than a thinner blanket of the same material. Joke Gallien, world's dumbest YEC!   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,16:44    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,15:16) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:13)   Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,12:16) And unless the CO2 is close to the surface the radiation it emits doesn't have a chance of reaching it. Joke is trying to win the award for stupidest thing ever said. He might win with this one. I dunno, there's an awful lot of competition.  For my money his claim CO2 molecules can't cause the planet to warm unless they all point the right way is still the clubhouse leader.   :) timmy the liar. I never made that claim. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,16:45    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,16:43) Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,16:37)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,15:11)   Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,15:00)         Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,14:37)           Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,13:45) OK, so the earth starts losing 100% of all of its black-body radiation wavelengths. And say the CO2 sends 4% of 410ppm of that back towards the surface (but most likely never reaching it). Does anyone really think that is going to warm the surface? If you give someone $1 and they give you 410 ppm of 4 cents did you make money? BWAHAHAHAHA!!!  Here comes the really hilarious part where Joke's tiny fat-encrusted brain realizes he's made a huge blunder so he has to try and lie his way out of it. Sorry Joe the energy absorbed and re-emitted back to Earth isn't "4% of 410 ppm".   It's 4% of the ORIGINAL TOTAL being radiated from the Earth.  And YES moron, that is plenty of energy to raise the average temperature of the planet noticeably more than if none of the original energy was returned. If you lose a dollar but someone gives you back 4 cents, YES you have more money than you would if they gave you back nothing. Joe Gallien, the world's dumbest YEC.   :D How can it be 4% of the total? Please show your work? If it's 4% of the original total then why does the concentration matter? And why does it take super sensitive equipment and data adjusting to "notice" any difference? Only a moron would think that losing 96 cents = you are gaining 4 cents. Enter timmy LOL!  Look at the fat Joke squirm to get his foot out of his mouth! CO2 molecules re-emit to Earth 4% of the total outgoing energy they absorbs. If you increase the number of CO2 molecules you increase the total amount of energy absorbed and re-emitted. Wow, timmy is confused. First it sez that CO2 concentration matters, then it sez it doesn't and now it matters again. Timmy the loser thinks that losing 96 cents = gaining 4 cents Not only is Joke too stupid to understand haw a blanket works, Joke is also too stupid to understand why a thicker blanket will keep you warmer than a thinner blanket of the same material. Joke Gallien, world's dumbest YEC!   :D Not only is timmy a desperate little faggot liar, it relishes the fact that it is a sociopath and pathological liar -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,16:46    OK, so the earth starts losing 100% of all of its black-body radiation wavelengths. And say the CO2 sends 4% of 410ppm of that back towards the surface (but most likely never reaching it). Does anyone really think that is going to warm the surface? If you give someone $1 and they give you 410 ppm of 4 cents did you make money? HINT- it is NOT 4% of the total. Only totally ignorant and desperate assholes say such a thing -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,16:47    A blanket "works" by forming an insulating barrier between at least two surfaces with different temperatures. CO2, at 410PPM, does NOT form such a barrier. And timmy's example proves he is a desperate moron: timmy's "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. It would only radiate back 1/2 of that 8% that hits it. There wouldn't be any barrier as the air would be free to flow through the massive gaps. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,16:49    If the atmosphere is warmer/ hotter than the earth the earth does not radiate any heat to the atmosphere. Which means there isn't anything to "radiate back". That also means for much of the day the earth is absorbing radiation and not emitting it. The earth emits its stored heat only when the atmosphere becomes cooler than it. And it will do so until an equilibrium is reached. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,16:50    Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,16:41) Quote (Texas Teach @ July 21 2018,15:41)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:05)   Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:34)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,10:31)     Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:24) your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. It would only radiate back 1/2 of that 8% that hits it. Joke, which will be warmer? 1. A body with a blanket which radiates back 1/2 of the 8% energy that hits the blanket. 2. A body with no blanket. Joke Gallien, spinless coward and world's dumbest YEC.   timmy loves humping a strawman. Your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. There wouldn't be any barrier 410 ppm. But how many parts per square meter? Or do you think that the atmosphere is only one molecule thick. For people interested in the answer (read: not Joe), that would be about 110,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 molecules of CO2 at STP.  Feel free to lop off a couple zeroes for higher temps and lower pressure. And multiply that by 2400 to get the number of non-GHG molecules in that same space. It still remains that the Earth doesn't emit anything until it is warmer than the atmosphere. And unless the CO2 with the absorbed energy is warmer than the surface the 2nd law says it ain't going to make it to the earth when it is emitted. Moar Joemodynamics: Thermal energy can travel from the Earth to atmospheric CO2 but can't travel from atmospheric CO2 to Earth. Yes, Joke really is that stupid.  He's the world's dumbest YEC. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,16:57    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,16:50) Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,16:41)   Quote (Texas Teach @ July 21 2018,15:41)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:05)     Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:34)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,10:31)       Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,10:24) your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. It would only radiate back 1/2 of that 8% that hits it. Joke, which will be warmer? 1. A body with a blanket which radiates back 1/2 of the 8% energy that hits the blanket. 2. A body with no blanket. Joke Gallien, spinless coward and world's dumbest YEC.   :D timmy loves humping a strawman. Your "blanket" would only cover 410 parts per million of the body. There wouldn't be any barrier 410 ppm. But how many parts per square meter? Or do you think that the atmosphere is only one molecule thick. For people interested in the answer (read: not Joe), that would be about 110,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 molecules of CO2 at STP.  Feel free to lop off a couple zeroes for higher temps and lower pressure. And multiply that by 2400 to get the number of non-GHG molecules in that same space. It still remains that the Earth doesn't emit anything until it is warmer than the atmosphere. And unless the CO2 with the absorbed energy is warmer than the surface the 2nd law says it ain't going to make it to the earth when it is emitted. Moar Joemodynamics: Thermal energy can travel from the Earth to atmospheric CO2 but can't travel from atmospheric CO2 to Earth. Yes, Joke really is that stupid.  He's the world's dumbest YEC. Wow, what a twisted and deluded asshole you are, timmy. Heat flows from hot to cold. It isn't my fault that you are ignorant of physics. https://www.dummies.com/educati....ynamics -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 21 2018,17:05    Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,16:44)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 21 2018,15:16)       Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 21 2018,15:13)           Quote (Joe G @ July 21 2018,12:16) And unless the CO2 is close to the surface the radiation it emits doesn't have a chance of reaching it. Joke is trying to win the award for stupidest thing ever said. He might win with this one. I dunno, there's an awful lot of competition.  For my money his claim CO2 molecules can't cause the planet to warm unless they all point the right way is still the clubhouse leader.   timmy the liar. I never made that claim. Joke the liar, pants on fire!       Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,14:14) unless all of the CO2 is pointing the right way such that the vibration sends the re-radiated heat back to earth. Joke Gallien, prolific liar and world's dumbest YEC!   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

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