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Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:20   

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Dave: Here, comment 29.

     
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Of course adults should be allowed to engage in incest. I just personally think breeding would be very bad idea, for obvious reasons.

Good lord, Skatje puts up with some flaming assholes at her blog. I'm amazed that she won't even ban Legion.

I think it's true: I think a certain kind of fundie shithead harasses Skatje because they're too lame to take on PZ, so she's an unthreatening surrogate target.

If they take on PZ, they'll just get banned anyway.  

Talk back to the big guy and your gone....dungeon city.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:25   

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Talk back to the big guy and your gone....dungeon city.

best Sig. Evvvvvvver?

Say it it your worst B-movie actor giving bad monologue style.

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Mister DNA



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:26   

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Dave: Here, comment 29.

       
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Of course adults should be allowed to engage in incest. I just personally think breeding would be very bad idea, for obvious reasons.

Good lord, Skatje puts up with some flaming assholes at her blog. I'm amazed that she won't even ban Legion.

I think it's true: I think a certain kind of fundie shithead harasses Skatje because they're too lame to take on PZ, so she's an unthreatening surrogate target.

If they take on PZ, they'll just get banned anyway.  

Talk back to the big guy and your gone....dungeon city.

What song would you like to hear, FtK?


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Mister DNA



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:27   

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Talk back to the big guy and your gone....dungeon city.

best Sig. Evvvvvvver?

Say it it your worst B-movie actor giving bad monologue style.

Yeah, a Jack Webb voice works perfectly. Especially since it kinda rhymes with Jack Krebs.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:27   

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LOL, whatever.  I just pray that my children *never*, ever run across a professor like PZ during their college experience.


hee hee don't worry they don't have any biologists at Bob Jones.  so there is not much chance of that.

You don't seem to be able to understand the difference between advocate and understand.  We see that this is true daily from you, when you advocate that the earth is 6000 years old but you can't possibly understand why that must be.  Skatje apparently understands that people may love their pet, and this is a far cry from advocating that they have missionary style sex with their pet.  You advocate Intelligent Design Creationism but you show no signs, whatsoever, of understanding IDC.  You advocate Wally Brown's book but clearly you don't understand a word of it.

You are saying that if 'philosophical naturalism' equates 'darwinists' then those philosophical naturalists are amoral.  see, look

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from an philosophical naturalist’s point of view, there is absolutely no reason why one shouldn’t engage in bestiality and incest if they *want to*


since you find those acts immoral, either those condoning such behaviors (there is that word you don't understand again, but i'll use it in the dishonest way that you used it too) are immoral or without morals.  since, you know, you are the one possessing the one true code of morals and stuff.  See the KJV1611.

you are a fraud.  and a dumb one.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:27   

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Dave: Here, comment 29.

       
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Of course adults should be allowed to engage in incest. I just personally think breeding would be very bad idea, for obvious reasons.

Good lord, Skatje puts up with some flaming assholes at her blog. I'm amazed that she won't even ban Legion.

I think it's true: I think a certain kind of fundie shithead harasses Skatje because they're too lame to take on PZ, so she's an unthreatening surrogate target.

If they take on PZ, they'll just get banned anyway.  

Talk back to the big guy and your gone....dungeon city.



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:28   

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Baloney.  PZ is horrifically intolerant!  His intolerance of religion and anyone who even questions Darwinism is demonstrated on a *daily* basis at his blog.  I can’t even believe he has the audacity to claim that he’d allow tolerance to “run rampant”.  The gall of that man is unbelievable.


What the fuck? PZ hasn't ever, to my knowledge, suggested any legal changes that would threaten individual religious freedom, and thinks that there shouldn't be any legal repercussions for being religious. You might even say he condones religion!

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Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:28   

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Jesus, Lady (Jesus-Lady), you are a freak.  

THERE IS NO EVOLUTIONARY STANDPOINT FROM WHICH MORALS ABOUT HORSE FUCKING OR ANY OTHER KIND OF FUCKING ARE DERIVED

It has nothing to do with it.  it is simple.  You know this, and that makes you a liar.  And a stupid one too, because you can't even keep a straight face while you do it.

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THERE IS NO EVOLUTIONARY STANDPOINT FROM WHICH MORALS ABOUT HORSE FUCKING OR ANY OTHER KIND OF FUCKING ARE DERIVED.


From an atheist's stance, evolution certainly does affect morality and how we "fuck".  We evolved from the animal world and morals and "fucking" evolved along with it.  

How dense can you be?  There are all kinds of books written in regard to how morals and religious thought supposedly "evolved".

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:31   

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:)

Now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.

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Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:37   

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Baloney.  PZ is horrifically intolerant!  His intolerance of religion and anyone who even questions Darwinism is demonstrated on a *daily* basis at his blog.  I can’t even believe he has the audacity to claim that he’d allow tolerance to “run rampant”.  The gall of that man is unbelievable.


What the fuck? PZ hasn't ever, to my knowledge, suggested any legal changes that would threaten individual religious freedom, and thinks that there shouldn't be any legal repercussions for being religious. You might even say he condones religion!

Who said anything about intolerance from a legal standpoint????!

I said the man is INTOLERANT.  Period.  His blog is set up to encourage intolerance of religion.  Are you blind?

Here, maybe I need to get out the dictionary again:

Intolerant:  Unable to tolerate other's beliefs.

Tolerate:  to respect others' beliefs, practices, etc. without sharing them.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:38   

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There are all kinds of books written in regard to how morals and religious thought supposedly "evolved".


Those 'books' have jack-shit to do with evolutionary biology.  That sort of topic has the same relationship to [the science of understanding the relationships between organisms via common descent and natural selection] as does a sculpture made from the pubic hair of Franciscan nuns to the statue of liberty.

It's like blaming the inventor of language (hmmm, let's see, that would be Yahweh, two times:  Eden and Babel) for Two Live Crew or Celine Dion.  Are you stupid enough to be willing to do that?  I imagine that you can probably believe that it is true and not true, simultaneously.

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Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:45   

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I'm a little perplexed that someone who's just had trouble with the definition of the word "condone" would continue using it in the exact same context in a different place.

Hey, I can't help it if people don't know the definition of condone.  In fact, in my dictionary the definition I used is the only one available.  

Same here.  

I have no idea why every is so worked up over that word.

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Mister DNA



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:50   

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I'm a little perplexed that someone who's just had trouble with the definition of the word "condone" would continue using it in the exact same context in a different place.

Hey, I can't help it if people don't know the definition of condone.  In fact, in my dictionary the definition I used is the only one available.  

Same here.  

I have no idea why every is so worked up over that word.

Hmmm.... could it be because you knowingly and willfully used people's misuse of the word to score a cheap rhetorical point?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:51   

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Exactly...why condemn it?  That's the point.  Sex in any fashion is okay just as long as the other person, animal, brother, sister, child, or adult is okay with it.  In fact, there is really no need for marriage either.  Kids don't need the influence of both a father and a mother.  We already know they get along fine with 2 mother's or 2 father's or a single of each.  

So, let's set up a huge orgy tonight and have a ball!!  I can't imagine it would hurt any of us (unless Rich gets out the whips).

MORAL RELATIVISM....  yahoo!

 
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Skatje wrote that post the first of October, and I've never mentioned it until everyone thought Sal was some kind of demented villian for suggesting that bestiality might be considered acceptable from an evolutionary standpoint.  Of course it is...we are part of the animal world and there is no reason why a person shouldn't engage in that type of behavior *if they want to*.

 
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PZ is absolutely wrong.  I’m not insinuating that “Darwinists” are immoral.  I couldn’t possibly insinuate that because I know many, and they are certainly not immoral. What I am saying is that from an philosophical naturalist’s point of view, there is absolutely no reason why one shouldn’t engage in bestiality and incest if they *want to*.

 
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From an atheist's stance, evolution certainly does affect morality and how we "fuck".  We evolved from the animal world and morals and "fucking" evolved along with it.

How dense can you be?  There are all kinds of books written in regard to how morals and religious thought supposedly "evolved".


Emphasis mine.

I'm having trouble reconciling these posts with one another. Apart from contradicting each other, the third one actually seems to contradict itself within the space of a few sentences.

Also:

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LOL, whatever.  I just pray that my children *never*, ever run across a professor like PZ during their college experience.


They will. It's part of being exposed to educated people, there are a good chunk of open atheists.

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Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:55   

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There are all kinds of books written in regard to how morals and religious thought supposedly "evolved".


Those 'books' have jack-shit to do with evolutionary biology.  That sort of topic has the same relationship to [the science of understanding the relationships between organisms via common descent and natural selection] as does a sculpture made from the pubic hair of Franciscan nuns to the statue of liberty.

It's like blaming the inventor of language (hmmm, let's see, that would be Yahweh, two times:  Eden and Babel) for Two Live Crew or Celine Dion.  Are you stupid enough to be willing to do that?  I imagine that you can probably believe that it is true and not true, simultaneously.

Good grief, man.  What is wrong with you?  For the atheist, morality evolved along with the brain, the mind, our thoughts and social skills.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:00   

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There are all kinds of books written in regard to how morals and religious thought supposedly "evolved".


Those 'books' have jack-shit to do with evolutionary biology.  That sort of topic has the same relationship to [the science of understanding the relationships between organisms via common descent and natural selection] as does a sculpture made from the pubic hair of Franciscan nuns to the statue of liberty.

It's like blaming the inventor of language (hmmm, let's see, that would be Yahweh, two times:  Eden and Babel) for Two Live Crew or Celine Dion.  Are you stupid enough to be willing to do that?  I imagine that you can probably believe that it is true and not true, simultaneously.

Good grief, man.  What is wrong with you?  For the atheist, morality evolved along with the brain, the mind, our thoughts and social skills.

Well. Some people evolved social skills...

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Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:04   

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I'm a little perplexed that someone who's just had trouble with the definition of the word "condone" would continue using it in the exact same context in a different place.

Hey, I can't help it if people don't know the definition of condone.  In fact, in my dictionary the definition I used is the only one available.  

Same here.  

I have no idea why every is so worked up over that word.

Hmmm.... could it be because you knowingly and willfully used people's misuse of the word to score a cheap rhetorical point?

You're kidding me right?  Trying to get a rise out me or what?  I'm talking to professors and supposed highly educated people.  My word usage was entirely accurate, and I was confused from the start as to why there was such a freak fest over it.  I have no idea why so many people don't know the definition of "condone", but their ignorance can't be blamed on me.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:04   

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Dave: Here, comment 29.
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Of course adults should be allowed to engage in incest. I just personally think breeding would be very bad idea, for obvious reasons.

Which goes along with the rest of her post perfectly!  Yay!

So whats your point, FtK?  Did PZ peg ya wrong?  Explain it to us.

I know! I know!

"YOU ATHIESTS ARE ALL HORRIBLE WICKED PEOPLE!!! DARWINISM IS WRONG!!!! GAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!"

Did I guess right?

You forgot too ugly to get into Playboy, and too ugly to get a guy. DaveScot can see me through his telescope from Austin, TX, and he knows all about who I, being an animal, [don't] fuck. Enjoy the company you keep, FTK.

Here, FTK, I'll be the first to link to my own "advocacy" of bestiality.
 
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But I'll go out on a limb and say, I'd sooner support love between a human and an animal than hatred between human beings, as Salvador Cordova does.

There, that should give you everything you need to really lay into me now. I hate no one. And that makes me immoral. Hell, this is church all over again. People who don't hate have no moral values. Just ask Sal Cordova.
 
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Why should we desire the enemies of the Christian faith speak well of us. Their hatred of us is a good thing. It is a sign you’re on the side of what is right.

Yeah, see ya. I have to go shame my family now by working on my paper about Carol Kuhlthau's ISP (information search process). I'm trying to make the library more user-friendly, without invoking God, of course.

I don't need reminding from you, FTK, that people in the United States don't understand and will never be proud of "bizarros" like me. They'd much rather growl at Nobel Prize winners (Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, etc.) and get all depressed because the evidence shows that a deity didn't murder His little creatures with a worldwide flood. I'm a terrible person, because I don't think you're inherently sinful or in need of any saving from a disobedient act that never happened. Run, run, run away from my poisonous idea that we have a short time on earth to make a contribution. As for me, I need a diet from castigation, if you please.

I mean, your message is not exactly new for me, you know? In fact it's kind of something I've heard all my life. Sometimes I think these people would prefer me if I did drugs or had an unwanted pregnancy or were in prison for murder instead of being an atheist with an excellent academic record and a good work ethic. I really don't get it, but that's okay.

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Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:08   

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LOL, whatever.  I just pray that my children *never*, ever run across a professor like PZ during their college experience.

No doubt they'll be off to Baylor, or Dembski's place.

More likely K-State.  Dave will probably be the lucky duck that gets to educate my children.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:09   

Please tell me what else, for the atheist that is, is true.

also, please tell me just how you know this.  let's start with the above statement.  

How is it, for the atheist, that "morality evolved along with the brain, the mind, our thoughts and social skills"?  Do you mind explaining this?  Is morality like your appendix?  Is it like genital warts, that you contract from others?  Is morality like having ten fingers?  What?  I think you are full of shit, and here is where you get your chance to show how smart you are.

Or not.  But please do tell.  I'm waiting with baited breath, my piranha.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:11   

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There are all kinds of books written in regard to how morals and religious thought supposedly "evolved".


Those 'books' have jack-shit to do with evolutionary biology.  That sort of topic has the same relationship to [the science of understanding the relationships between organisms via common descent and natural selection] as does a sculpture made from the pubic hair of Franciscan nuns to the statue of liberty.

It's like blaming the inventor of language (hmmm, let's see, that would be Yahweh, two times:  Eden and Babel) for Two Live Crew or Celine Dion.  Are you stupid enough to be willing to do that?  I imagine that you can probably believe that it is true and not true, simultaneously.

Good grief, man.  What is wrong with you?  For the atheist, morality evolved along with the brain, the mind, our thoughts and social skills.

Good grief, indeed. Erasmus spelled out "Read this very slowly so it can sink in", hoping that you just might once get the point, FtK. Sadly, it was not to be.

Let's try again.

You said:
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here are all kinds of books written in regard to how morals and religious thought supposedly "evolved".


Erasmus said:
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Those 'books' have jack-shit to do with evolutionary biology.

(this was right after he said, "Read this very slowly so it can sink in")

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What is wrong with you?  For the atheist, morality evolved along with the brain, the mind, our thoughts and social skills.


Do you understand that there is a difference between "evolution" and "biological evolution"?

The fact that languages and societal norms evolve don't have anything whatsoever to do with biological evolution.

Look up the word "evolution" in your ever-loving dictionary. It's located somewhere between the words "anus" and "perineum".

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:18   

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LOL, whatever.  I just pray that my children *never*, ever run across a professor like PZ during their college experience.

No doubt they'll be off to Baylor, or Dembski's place.

More likely K-State.  Dave will probably be the lucky duck that gets to educate my children.

That's just plain silly. All that effort sheltering them from reality down the drain!

You should home grad-school them, leveraging the genius of physics redefining A-getting Sal cordova, the legal nous of Barry A, the Hard SciFiScience of DaveScot and the Fig newton of info theory, Doc-Doc-Billy-Dee.

Imagine the career in engineering / clueless op-ed penning!

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Mister DNA



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:20   

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I'm a little perplexed that someone who's just had trouble with the definition of the word "condone" would continue using it in the exact same context in a different place.

Hey, I can't help it if people don't know the definition of condone.  In fact, in my dictionary the definition I used is the only one available.  

Same here.  

I have no idea why every is so worked up over that word.

Hmmm.... could it be because you knowingly and willfully used people's misuse of the word to score a cheap rhetorical point?

You're kidding me right?  Trying to get a rise out me or what?  I'm talking to professors and supposed highly educated people.  My word usage was entirely accurate, and I was confused from the start as to why there was such a freak fest over it.  I have no idea why so many people don't know the definition of "condone", but their ignorance can't be blamed on me.

No, FtK, I'm not trying to get a rise out you. Considering your seemingly permanent state of agitation, I don't wish to exacerbate things.

But FFS, a few hours after incorygible came to your defense regarding the use of the word "condone", you left this turd at PZ's blog:

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Your daughter condones sex with animals as well as incestuous relationships. Sal and I pointed that out.


You even added the odd emphasis on the word "condones". Someone here noted that you were taking up the discussion at PZ's blog as if nothing had ever taken place here.

I knew what you were up to the minute I saw your post at Pharyngula.

If that "gets a rise" out of you, so be it. We'll just add some more lumber to the cross you've decided to call home.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:22   

The catholic church believes in evolution, but finds condones evil.

All Praise St. Dr. Zaius.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:27   

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Dave: Here, comment 29.
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Of course adults should be allowed to engage in incest. I just personally think breeding would be very bad idea, for obvious reasons.

Which goes along with the rest of her post perfectly!  Yay!

So whats your point, FtK?  Did PZ peg ya wrong?  Explain it to us.

I know! I know!

"YOU ATHIESTS ARE ALL HORRIBLE WICKED PEOPLE!!! DARWINISM IS WRONG!!!! GAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!"

Did I guess right?

You forgot too ugly to get into Playboy, and too ugly to get a guy. DaveScot can see me through his telescope from Austin, TX, and he knows all about who I, being an animal, [don't] fuck. Enjoy the company you keep, FTK.

Here, FTK, I'll be the first to link to my own "advocacy" of bestiality.
   
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But I'll go out on a limb and say, I'd sooner support love between a human and an animal than hatred between human beings, as Salvador Cordova does.

There, that should give you everything you need to really lay into me now. I hate no one. And that makes me immoral. Hell, this is church all over again. People who don't hate have no moral values. Just ask Sal Cordova.
   
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Why should we desire the enemies of the Christian faith speak well of us. Their hatred of us is a good thing. It is a sign you’re on the side of what is right.

Yeah, see ya. I have to go shame my family now by working on my paper about Carol Kuhlthau's ISP (information search process). I'm trying to make the library more user-friendly, without invoking God, of course.

I don't need reminding from you, FTK, that people in the United States don't understand and will never be proud of "bizarros" like me. They'd much rather growl at Nobel Prize winners (Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, etc.) and get all depressed because the evidence shows that a deity didn't murder His little creatures with a worldwide flood. I'm a terrible person, because I don't think you're inherently sinful or in need of any saving from a disobedient act that never happened. Run, run, run away from my poisonous idea that we have a short time on earth to make a contribution. As for me, I need a diet from castigation, if you please.

I mean, your message is not exactly new for me, you know? In fact it's kind of something I've heard all my life. Sometimes I think these people would prefer me if I did drugs or had an unwanted pregnancy or were in prison for murder instead of being an atheist with an excellent academic record and a good work ethic. I really don't get it, but that's okay.

Simply unbelieveable.  I've watched you cut at Christians endless times at your blog, and yet you have the audacity to go after me for being honest.  Every single word I wrote today was backed up with facts.  I can't help it if you're defensive for how other people have treated you.  I've always treated you with respect.  

Assi, I apologize, but I've got to get some sleep.  I'll have to put your post off until another day.  I had no idea that people would be so irrate with me for stating the facts.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:30   

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I'm a little perplexed that someone who's just had trouble with the definition of the word "condone" would continue using it in the exact same context in a different place.

Hey, I can't help it if people don't know the definition of condone.  In fact, in my dictionary the definition I used is the only one available.  

Same here.  

I have no idea why every is so worked up over that word.

Hmmm.... could it be because you knowingly and willfully used people's misuse of the word to score a cheap rhetorical point?

You're kidding me right?  Trying to get a rise out me or what?  I'm talking to professors and supposed highly educated people.  My word usage was entirely accurate, and I was confused from the start as to why there was such a freak fest over it.  I have no idea why so many people don't know the definition of "condone", but their ignorance can't be blamed on me.

No, FtK, I'm not trying to get a rise out you. Considering your seemingly permanent state of agitation, I don't wish to exacerbate things.

But FFS, a few hours after incorygible came to your defense regarding the use of the word "condone", you left this turd at PZ's blog:

 
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Your daughter condones sex with animals as well as incestuous relationships. Sal and I pointed that out.


You even added the odd emphasis on the word "condones". Someone here noted that you were taking up the discussion at PZ's blog as if nothing had ever taken place here.

I knew what you were up to the minute I saw your post at Pharyngula.

If that "gets a rise" out of you, so be it. We'll just add some more lumber to the cross you've decided to call home.

Just because Dave and OM didn't know the definition of the word certainly shouldn't mean that no one knows the definition.  

IMHO, it's the best definition to use in this case.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:32   

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Who said anything about intolerance from a legal standpoint????!


Skatje. That's what her whole post was about. You know, the thing that helped set off this whole kerfuffle?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:33   

waaaaaaah

here is your manbeast morals, on the cross.




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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:34   

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Please tell me what else, for the atheist that is, is true.

also, please tell me just how you know this.  let's start with the above statement.  

How is it, for the atheist, that "morality evolved along with the brain, the mind, our thoughts and social skills"?  Do you mind explaining this?  Is morality like your appendix?  Is it like genital warts, that you contract from others?  Is morality like having ten fingers?  What?  I think you are full of shit, and here is where you get your chance to show how smart you are.

Or not.  But please do tell.  I'm waiting with baited breath, my piranha.

If morality didn't evolve along with everything else in the world, how did our sense of what is right a wrong take root?  

Did God just *poof* your sense of morality into your mind out of no where?

I can't even believe you are questioning me about this.  It's as though some of you have never even thought about this issue.  Of course morality evolved.  There is no way around that fact.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,23:37   

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Who said anything about intolerance from a legal standpoint????!


Skatje. That's what her whole post was about. You know, the thing that helped set off this whole kerfuffle?

That is not what I was refering to when I stated that PZ was intolerant are you know that.   I've been reading his blog for 3 years and there is not a week that goes by without him displaying horrific intolerance against religion.

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