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stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2020,18:02    Quote 26 Aarceng April 19, 2020 at 4:38 pm When did an ID blog become a party political one? link Creationism and right-wing politics are linked at the hip.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2020,09:06    Re "When did an ID blog become a party political one?" When was it ever anything else?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2020,09:15    Seriously, creationism and right-wing politics are peanut butter and jelly.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2020,10:08    Quote (Bob O'H @ April 19 2020,05:58) Thank you, Barry, for breaking my new irony-meter     Quote     Quote I not sure why my posts anger you so much Yes, I am sure you aren’t. Arrogance such as that routinely in view in your posts is often accompanied by a lack of self-awareness. So it is to be expected. You missed the other zinger in the same message: "Kindly consult your dictionary for the definition of the word 'may.' The headline is literally true." Barry the Lawyer gives a lesson on weasel words.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2020,10:11    Did anyone notice in one of the threads where Barry chides his opponents for relying on experts? Of course, Barry is a Lawyer and a lawyer is an expert on the law. I think Barry is saying that if you ever get into legal difficulties, call somebody else who might know what they're doing.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 21 2020,19:49    Ed George: Quote Quote BA77 But anyways Ed George, after you accusing me of being what Moran’s students observed Moran to be, namely of being prideful to the point of refusing to admit when I may be wrong, you also directly implied that I was wrong on Junk DNA and that Moran was right. Nope. I didn’t imply any such thing. I was simply implying that “… perhaps being an arrogant, egotistical. know it all who refuses to listen to others might just hamper his ability to humbly admit when he was wrong..”. might describe you. Or are you honestly suggesting that comments written on ‘Rate My Teacher’ should be taken as gospel? Which, by the way, might explain the things that you do take as gospel.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 21 2020,19:56    God dammit you beat me by seven minutes.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 21 2020,20:07    Anyone want to take bets on when Batshitcrazy77 threatens to recommend that EG be banned?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 21 2020,20:40    I’m baffled that it hasn’t happened already. BatShit77 is the flakiest of snowflakes. Haven’t seen ET there today. Maybe he got arrested for making threats or something.

Lethean Posts: 292 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 21 2020,23:32    For sport, when BA77 is downplaying his arrogant bullshit, do what I did to Hawkins a million years ago when he denied the same crap. Make a post asking him to point to a single post/time he was completely wrong about some major point, admitted he was wrong when corrected by someone he sees as his ideological opponent, and (for bonus points) thanked that person for correcting him. That post will be ignored so hard that Tard Protective Services will have to whisk it away to a foster forum where it can be properly cared for. -------------- "So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance." "My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it." ~Dave Hawkins~

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2020,00:13    Quote (Lethean @ April 22 2020,07:32) For sport, when BA77 is downplaying his arrogant bullshit, do what I did to Hawkins a million years ago when he denied the same crap. Make a post asking him to point to a single post/time he was completely wrong about some major point, admitted he was wrong when corrected by someone he sees as his ideological opponent, and (for bonus points) thanked that person for correcting him. That post will be ignored so hard that Tard Protective Services will have to whisk it away to a foster forum where it can be properly cared for. BUT MA IMAGINARY NUMBERS. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2020,02:22    If you want to see the better side of ID, I did appreciate Denyse's comments here. -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 23 2020,10:26    Quote 36 ET April 23, 2020 at 9:22 am Why are doctors so ignorant of zinc? HC is supposed to be used with zinc. You have to be dense to not use the two together. People are dying due to medical ignorance. How pathetic is that? Joe should stick to toaster repair. Doctorin’s out of his league.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 23 2020,11:32    Quote 46 Bob O'H kf – do you have something more rigorous than a youtube video? linky

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 23 2020,11:52    Quote 48 Seversky April 23, 2020 at 10:39 am A simple search on zinc metabolism will find that, like other nutrients, too little zinc can cause deficiency symptoms but too much can be toxic,. The body already has good zinc transport mechanisms for getting the required amount into the cells. Increasing the amount of zinc may have antiviral effects but we need to know how much, if any. Simply pumping more zinc into the body willy-nilly may do more harm than good. This is one of the reasons we need why we need properly-conducted trials. Regardless of any hyperbole about “gold standard”, they are what stand between us and the rampant charlatanry and fraud of past centuries. But what if a dude who flunked out of toaster repair school tells you it's a good idea?

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 23 2020,13:03    Fourfaces:   Quote 2. It’s unexpected because the deep secrets of the brain are already here, hiding in plain sight. They can be found in a couple of ancient metaphorical (mystical or occult) scriptures in the Bible: the Book of Revelation and the first 6 chapters of the Book of Zechariah. If you can decode the metaphors, you will know how the brain works and solve AGI. But first, you have to believe. Derp

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 23 2020,13:09    Fourfaces leading up to the last quote:     Quote I’m afraid that, PhD or not, Eric Holloway should refrain from writing about something he doesn’t understand. I suspect Mr Holloway is hiding something about his competence in these matters. Artificial general intelligence is coming and it’s coming from the one place that nobody suspects. And I say this as a Christian AGI researcher. PreDerp I totally agree with his first two sentences.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 23 2020,18:26    Quote (stevestory @ April 23 2020,11:52) Quote 48 Seversky April 23, 2020 at 10:39 am A simple search on zinc metabolism will find that, like other nutrients, too little zinc can cause deficiency symptoms but too much can be toxic,. The body already has good zinc transport mechanisms for getting the required amount into the cells. Increasing the amount of zinc may have antiviral effects but we need to know how much, if any. Simply pumping more zinc into the body willy-nilly may do more harm than good. This is one of the reasons we need why we need properly-conducted trials. Regardless of any hyperbole about “gold standard”, they are what stand between us and the rampant charlatanry and fraud of past centuries. But what if a dude who flunked out of toaster repair school tells you it's a good idea? Don't forget a few years back Joke was pushing homeopathy using small doses of hydrogen peroxide to cleanse one's innards.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 23 2020,19:45    Quote 21 Ed George April 23, 2020 at 5:19 pm TF Quote Talk about the unborn being expendable is unethical and immoral, however and should not be allowed to pass unchallenged. I don’t know. My daughter had a chemically induced termination yesterday and I am very thankful that she did. Does that make me immoral.? Quote 23 Truthfreedom April 23, 2020 at 6:03 pm @22 Ed George Quote I don’t know. My daughter had a chemically induced termination yesterday and I am very thankful that she did. Does that make me immoral.? How strange that you are ‘very thankful’ since you said you do not support abortion. Sounds extremely weird, but you are a known and proud liar, therefore I am not surprised. And you care about my opinion because? Are not you the person that says you always forget what I write? Do you need a moral guide, Ed? Quote 25 Ed George April 23, 2020 at 6:15 pm TF Quote How strange that you are ‘very thankful’ since you said you do not support abortion. If it wasn’t terminated, my daughter would have been put at serious potential health risk. To me, the best choice was obvious. Again, do you think this makes me Or my daughter immoral? In this case I certainly believe that the fetus was expendable. In your mind, I assume this obviously makes me unethical and immoral. Is this correct? linky Edited by stevestory on April 23 2020,20:46

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 23 2020,21:09    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 23 2020,18:26) Quote (stevestory @ April 23 2020,11:52)   Quote 48 Seversky April 23, 2020 at 10:39 am A simple search on zinc metabolism will find that, like other nutrients, too little zinc can cause deficiency symptoms but too much can be toxic,. The body already has good zinc transport mechanisms for getting the required amount into the cells. Increasing the amount of zinc may have antiviral effects but we need to know how much, if any. Simply pumping more zinc into the body willy-nilly may do more harm than good. This is one of the reasons we need why we need properly-conducted trials. Regardless of any hyperbole about “gold standard”, they are what stand between us and the rampant charlatanry and fraud of past centuries. But what if a dude who flunked out of toaster repair school tells you it's a good idea? Don't forget a few years back Joke was pushing homeopathy using small doses of hydrogen peroxide to cleanse one's innards.   :O POTUS was asking doctors to look into UV irradiation of patients (possibly internally) or injecting disinfectant today.  Even after years of reading the insanity collected in these threads I was stunned. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 23 2020,22:02    Quote (Texas Teach @ April 23 2020,21:09) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 23 2020,18:26)   Quote (stevestory @ April 23 2020,11:52)     Quote 48 Seversky April 23, 2020 at 10:39 am A simple search on zinc metabolism will find that, like other nutrients, too little zinc can cause deficiency symptoms but too much can be toxic,. The body already has good zinc transport mechanisms for getting the required amount into the cells. Increasing the amount of zinc may have antiviral effects but we need to know how much, if any. Simply pumping more zinc into the body willy-nilly may do more harm than good. This is one of the reasons we need why we need properly-conducted trials. Regardless of any hyperbole about “gold standard”, they are what stand between us and the rampant charlatanry and fraud of past centuries. But what if a dude who flunked out of toaster repair school tells you it's a good idea? Don't forget a few years back Joke was pushing homeopathy using small doses of hydrogen peroxide to cleanse one's innards.   POTUS was asking doctors to look into UV irradiation of patients (possibly internally) or injecting disinfectant today.  Even after years of reading the insanity collected in these threads I was stunned. Reason #934,577 why we need to get that fucking idiot out of the WH ASAP.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 23 2020,22:13    Ed George to TruthFreedom Quote Of course I don’t care about your opinion. Do you honestly believe that anyone does? But I like reading your comments for the same reason that people used to be fascinated by the freak shows at the circus. It’s a guilt pleasure of mine. You are just like Pavlov’s dogs. All I have to do to get you mindlessly salivating all over a thread is to ring a bell (ie, post a comment). Link

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 23 2020,23:09    Now Barry is pretending to care about poor starving people in the third world.

Tony M Nyphot Posts: 491 Joined: June 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 24 2020,11:56    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 23 2020,17:26) Quote (stevestory @ April 23 2020,11:52)   Quote 48 Seversky April 23, 2020 at 10:39 am A simple search on zinc metabolism will find that, like other nutrients, too little zinc can cause deficiency symptoms but too much can be toxic,. The body already has good zinc transport mechanisms for getting the required amount into the cells. Increasing the amount of zinc may have antiviral effects but we need to know how much, if any. Simply pumping more zinc into the body willy-nilly may do more harm than good. This is one of the reasons we need why we need properly-conducted trials. Regardless of any hyperbole about “gold standard”, they are what stand between us and the rampant charlatanry and fraud of past centuries. But what if a dude who flunked out of toaster repair school tells you it's a good idea? Don't forget a few years back Joke was pushing homeopathy using small doses of hydrogen peroxide to cleanse one's innards.   :O Was that Joe or Janiebelle's pariah who shaved his dog's butt and taught him to walk backwards? -------------- "I, OTOH, am an underachiever...I either pee my pants or faint dead away..." FTK "You could always wrap fresh fish in the paper you publish it on, though, and sell that." - Field Man on how to find value in Gary Gaulin's real-science "theory"

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 24 2020,12:43    Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ April 24 2020,11:56) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 23 2020,17:26)   Quote (stevestory @ April 23 2020,11:52)     Quote 48 Seversky April 23, 2020 at 10:39 am A simple search on zinc metabolism will find that, like other nutrients, too little zinc can cause deficiency symptoms but too much can be toxic,. The body already has good zinc transport mechanisms for getting the required amount into the cells. Increasing the amount of zinc may have antiviral effects but we need to know how much, if any. Simply pumping more zinc into the body willy-nilly may do more harm than good. This is one of the reasons we need why we need properly-conducted trials. Regardless of any hyperbole about “gold standard”, they are what stand between us and the rampant charlatanry and fraud of past centuries. But what if a dude who flunked out of toaster repair school tells you it's a good idea? Don't forget a few years back Joke was pushing homeopathy using small doses of hydrogen peroxide to cleanse one's innards.   :O Was that Joe or Janiebelle's pariah who shaved his dog's butt and taught him to walk backwards? That was DaveTard, but he was speaking of Dense.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 24 2020,13:43    Quote 11 MatSpirit April 24, 2020 at 12:14 pm 9 asauber April 24, 2020 at 7:06 am “Ironically, establishment science has helplessly overseen the worst virus breakout ever known and the streets are strewn with dead bodies due to establishment scientists incompetence. ” Lucky for all of us that we had ID_Science™ to step in and save the day! Unfortunately, I missed actually seeing you guys saving the world. What exactly did you guys do besides whine and print massive quantities of gibberish? (I’m looking at you, KF and BA77. Barry, you’re going to have to start working on your quantity if you expect to score in this league. Don’t worry about what the words actually say, just make sure each post is at least a half megabyte long.) By the way, does anybody remember Dembski and the Eric Pianka Affair? Pianka was accepting the Texas Academy of Science’s Distinguished Texas Scientist Award back in 2006. In his speech, he described some of the things that would happen to us if we overpopulated the world. Mainly plagues and diseases, although there was a little starvation thrown in. This greatly distressed a guy named Forrest Mims and Mims confided in Dembski. On April 2, 2006, Dembski stated on this very blog that he had reported Pianka (the Distinguished Texas Scientist, remember) to Homeland Security. And here we are just 14 years later, enveloped in plague and talking about the coming starvation. That’s ID_Science™ at its best. linky

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 25 2020,06:16    Quote 23 PaV April 24, 2020 at 5:38 pm At long last–real progress! And, as concluded here at UD before, the answer to the question, “What came first, the chicken or the egg”? is this: the egg!! The upshot of this article is that the regulatory complexes operating within the cell are the true repositories of information. This is actually a revolutionary view. Darwinism will fall. Darwinism will fail! This is the same guy who said that in the entire world, maybe 27,400 people will die of COVID-19. linky

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 25 2020,11:16    On another note, the clowns at the DI are pushing a new cartoon video "disproving" whale evolution.    Looks like it was written and drawn for kids at the Jr. High level or below, or for the standard audience of IDiot fundies. It's only 10 minutes long but manages to pack in most every YEC Gish Gallop lie about whale evolution told in the last two decades.  Oh, and of course they never mention the huge amount of genetic evidence for cetacean evolution.  Kinkyfluffer as expected has a major league hard on for it over at the DI's propaganda site EvolutionSpews.   Moved to the proper thread. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 25 2020,13:22    Quote (stevestory @ April 25 2020,06:16)   Quote 23 PaV April 24, 2020 at 5:38 pm At long last–real progress! And, as concluded here at UD before, the answer to the question, “What came first, the chicken or the egg”? is this: the egg!! The upshot of this article is that the regulatory complexes operating within the cell are the true repositories of information. This is actually a revolutionary view. Darwinism will fall. Darwinism will fail! This is the same guy who said that in the entire world, maybe 27,400 people will die of COVID-19. linky That's at least the 2nd time PaV has killed evolution dead.  The first time was a year or so ago and someone here has quoted it in his SIG. Edited to add: I missed this.  It's at the bottom of the OP: Quote Hat tip: Philip Cunningham Philip Cunningham is, of course, the secret identity of BA77. Edited by CeilingCat on April 25 2020,13:37

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 25 2020,14:18    Oh my God!  Kairosfocus has actually put up a Fox video showing a silver haired Pence clone supporting Trump's suggestion of internal use of UV light! While the screen shows a tag that says, "Trump says he was being sarcastic about injecting household disinfectants", the Silver Haired Reporter's first words are, "...he is right about something else he talked about, which is the potential for introducing ultra-violet light into the body..." He then shows a graphic from Cedars-Sinai hospital showing a poor sufferer with an LED light stick shoved down his throat, showering UVA radiation on his trachea. His last words, being on Fox News, are "...the President was right." Derp

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