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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2006,15:49   

This might be juuuuust a bit off-topic, but here's an example of evolution in action, with a high selection coefficient for one-dimensional organisms:

Just for Seizure Salad.

Incidentally, Mirko might be coming to the UFC. That would be pretty cool.

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Faid



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2006,02:56   

Meh. Chuck Norris would have had him at 00:01 with a roundhouse kick to the face (and no nut shots).

He's like the genetically rich Prototype of the Designer to your devolved, degenerate mutants, Ghost.
He's got like, 9,146 alleles for every gene- and 8,732 of those are poisonous.

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"The truth is that ALL mutations REDUCE information"

"...mutations can add information to a genome.  And remember, I have never said that this is not possible."

  
The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2006,14:31   

Faid:

   
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Meh. Chuck Norris would have had him at 00:01 with a roundhouse kick to the face (and no nut shots).


Hey, even Hughes admitted in the post-fight conference that he overreacted the second time, and that the shot actually hit the thigh. The reason for the skittishness is that Matt came close to losing a match against Frank Trigg when the ref missed a foul to the groin.

Besides, everyone knows that Jean-Claude Van Damme's dim mak and blind Drunken Master ninjutsu make him the true king of MMA (Movie Martial Arts) -- just ask Bolo Yeoung!  :p

Here's another exciting fighter.

 
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He's like the genetically rich Prototype of the Designer to your devolved, degenerate mutants, Ghost.
He's got like, 9,146 alleles for every gene- and 8,732 of those are poisonous.


Dat's why dey can't 'andle de riddim!



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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2006,17:52   

Hey Paley -- I'm curious.  When you finally come out of the closet, who do you think will be more supportive of that -- us, or your ID pals?

Other than laughing at your extreme hypocrisy, I mean.

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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2006,15:45   

Lenny:

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Hey Paley -- I'm curious.  When you finally come out of the closet, who do you think will be more supportive of that -- us, or your ID pals?


I don't think IDers are too enthralled by Deism, but judging by the masculinity issues you dudes have, I wouldn't want to come out on this board. But it's not something I'm worried about either way.

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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,17:06   

Here are a few choice aphorisms from the king of sting:

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"The great majority of people will go on observing forms that cannot be explained; they will keep Christmas Day with Christmas gifts and Christmas benedictions; they will continue to do it; and some day suddenly wake up and discover why." - "On Christmas," Generally Speaking

"Most modern freedom is at root fear. It is not so much that we are too bold to endure rules; it is rather that we are too timid to endure responsibilities." - What's Wrong With the World

"What we call emancipation is always and of necessity simply the free choice of the soul between one set of limitations and another." - Daily News12-21-05

"Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God." - Christendom in Dublin, 1933

"The whole curse of the last century has been what is called the Swing of the Pendulum; that is, the idea that Man must go alternately from one extreme to the other. It is a shameful and even shocking fancy; it is the denial of the whole dignity of the mankind. When Man is alive he stands still. It is only when he is dead that he swings." - "The New House" Alarms and Discursions


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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2006,21:16   

Hmmmm . ..  VMartin suddenly disappears . .. .   Paley suddenly reappears . . . . . .

Coincidence . . . . . . . ?

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Faid



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2006,13:54   

Aaah... Chesterton. I always had a fondness for the old man.

When Ghost's trollish persona was mumbling about existentialism once, I almost posted this lovely part:

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The taller priest nodded his bowed head and said:

"Ah, yes, these modern infidels appeal to their reason; but
who can look at those millions of worlds and not feel that there
may well be wonderful universes above us where reason is utterly
unreasonable?"

"No," said the other priest; "reason is always reasonable,
even in the last limbo, in the lost borderland of things.  I know
that people charge the Church with lowering reason, but it is just
the other way.  Alone on earth, the Church makes reason really
supreme.  Alone on earth, the Church affirms that God himself is
bound by reason."


The other priest raised his austere face to the spangled sky
and said:

"Yet who knows if in that infinite universe--?"

"Only infinite physically," said the little priest, turning
sharply in his seat, "not infinite in the sense of escaping from
the laws of truth."



If only all religious people were more like Father Brown...

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"The truth is that ALL mutations REDUCE information"

"...mutations can add information to a genome.  And remember, I have never said that this is not possible."

  
The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2007,19:53   

Hey Louis, if you ever get tired of your pasty-puss-talkin-trash avatar, here's a guy you can replace him with. He's even got some lefty tendencies!

Or you can stick with the magician.

Whatevah.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2007,19:58   

Quote (The Ghost of Paley @ Dec. 18 2006,14:31)
Dat's why dey can't 'andle de riddim!


So, Paley, do you still like to hang out at the gymnasium?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2007,20:03   

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So, Paley, do you still like to hang out at the gymnasium?


Don't even have time for a Turkish prison, although I do like movies about gladiators.

........

Homology links for possible future thread:

Philosophical background.

Evo-devo a bridge?

Another, older summary.

Hox genes and homology.

Classic paper.

Application of idea.

SINE insertions as phylogenetic helpers.

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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 09 2007,16:43   

Overview.

SINEs and Afrotheria

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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 11 2007,20:40   

Oh god, Louis is indeed the master at self-immolation:

     
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Experiencing the Dirk Gentlian fundamental interconnectedness of all things, at least for me, didn't require hallucination or even meditation. It required education. As I learnt more about the universe through science classes at school and through my own reading (I too am an autodidact with an IQ north of 150**, but I don't think it's significant!


No, of course not, you just happened to let it slip. Well Louis, since you're directing these barbs at me, let me just say that you hit the mark with this one, if not for the reason you think. After sparring with you a couple of times, all I can say is, "If true, is that all a 150+ IQ can bring?" Christ, Louie, I thought an IQ like that was....special, yet you've conclusively demonstrated otherwise (unless half my friends have stratospheric IQ's, because they sure as #### can debate/think better than you can)*.

Wow, just.....wow.

Sorry, Faid. I couldna help myself. Perhaps IQ is just a number after all.


*I have no idea what my IQ is, let alone my friends'. Then again, they're not concerned with things like that -- weird, I know.

P.S. Don't get riled, Louie, I'm know you're a brilliant guy. But you sometimes remind me of this dude. Don't laugh, cause if you ever get mugged by a phonebook, then where will you be?

Wonder what he can do to a packet of IQ tests?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 12 2007,03:42   

1) Wrong thread.

2) Snipped from context.

3) Ignored the fact that a) high IQ (meaningless as it is, for reasons mentioned umpteen times before) isn't unusual for the members of this board, and b) it was openly stated, deliberate mockery of Dave "I'm a Tard" Springer.

Way to go Troll. Yet MORE evidence of your total lack of honesty or ability to contribute an even remotely substantial comment. You do know cut and pasting stuff you've googled and sweaty wrestler piccies don't count, right?

{golf clap}

Louis

P.S. Oh and Troll, since you've had your arse handed to you on a gilt edged platter in every "debate" you've had here with everyone, me included, were I you I'd worry more about my own debating skills before I point fingers at others infinitely more capable than I. And these friends, you know the ones in your head don't count, right? Neither do your good friends Madam Palm and her five lovely daughters. Or is that Mr Palm and his five muscley gym buddies?

P.P.S. Should you object to being dealt with abruptly, tough. You're a demonstrated liar, troll and bigot. And yes, like AFDavey we know you lack the ability to comprehend this and keep trying to turn tables and weasel out of it. Unlike you Troll, I and the other human members of this board have no need of revisionist history, another fact you don't appreciate. In the words of a Wimbledon groundsman to Ilie Nastase (who was acting up and complaining about being referred to as Nastase rather than Mr Nastase and not being allowed into the player's area long after he ceased to be a player) "The only people referred to as Mr are the gentlemen and the only people allowed in there are the players. You are neither, Nastase, good day." Troll, you are most certainly not a gentleman, and in no sense of the word could you be considered a player. Go away or behave like a rational adult. The choice as always is yours.

P.P.P.S. D4MN, talking to the twat again. Fifty Hail Dawkins and an Our Feynman.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 12 2007,14:04   

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3) Ignored the fact that a) high IQ (meaningless as it is, for reasons mentioned umpteen times before) isn't unusual for the members of this board, and b) it was openly stated, deliberate mockery of Dave "I'm a Tard" Springer.


Yep, you're right about this. Since you bait me so often and I don't keep up with all the UD stuff, I didn't catch the reference. Sorry.

 
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P.S. Oh and Troll, since you've had your arse handed to you on a gilt edged platter in every "debate" you've had here with everyone, me included, were I you I'd worry more about my own debating skills before I point fingers at others infinitely more capable than I.


Don't sell yourself short, Hoss. You're the Pigmeat Markum of the debating world! Will you sign my Yellow Pages?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 12 2007,14:21   

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3) Ignored the fact that a) high IQ (meaningless as it is, for reasons mentioned umpteen times before) isn't unusual for the members of this board, and b) it was openly stated, deliberate mockery of Dave "I'm a Tard" Springer.


Yep, you're right about this. Since you bait me so often and I don't keep up with all the UD stuff, I didn't catch the reference. Sorry.

 
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P.S. Oh and Troll, since you've had your arse handed to you on a gilt edged platter in every "debate" you've had here with everyone, me included, were I you I'd worry more about my own debating skills before I point fingers at others infinitely more capable than I.


Don't sell yourself short, Hoss. You're the Pigmeat Markum of the debating world! Will you sign my Yellow Pages?

GOP,
I believe that you could be interesting. Please understand that you have upset a lot of people here. That is your fault. It will take time to build credibility from what YOU have wrought.

Continuing to look like a troll does not help your cause.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 12 2007,14:27   

...and if Paley has "come clean" and is done trolling, why on earth is he continuing to use his original troll thread?

It would be puzzling if I didn't think he was still just trolling.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 12 2007,14:56   

Yeah, I know I'm being immature, and I realise there are consequences for my actions. I think I'll listen to some of the more sensible posters here and grow up.

Nevertheless, I like this thread cause it allows me to make comments without "forcing" myself on others (if that makes any sense). But I don't wish to exclude anyone.

So crap wherever you want, guys (you know who you are), and I'll do my best to tiptoe around the patties.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 12 2007,17:41   

Quote (The Ghost of Paley @ Jan. 12 2007,14:56)
Yeah, I know I'm being immature, and I realise there are consequences for my actions. I think I'll listen to some of the more sensible posters here and grow up.

Oh, puh-leeze.

Now you remind me of "Uncle Davey".

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 12 2007,18:39   

Holy Cow, I think my avatar just got thwacked!

Ah, well.  I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.   ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2007,03:18   

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Jan. 12 2007,18:39)
Holy Cow, I think my avatar just got thwacked!

Ah, well.  I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.   ;)

Looks pretty much the same as normal to me.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2007,07:41   

Troll,

All the regular posters here are sensible, some are less tolerant of trolls than others, that'll be the only major difference. Guess what Troll, you've behaved, and continue to behave, like a total wanker and you seem to expect people to forgive and forget because you want them to, and with no effort from you. No dice.

If you want to change people's astonishingly low opinion of you, and you can leave my opinion out of that equation if you wish, then it is up to you to change it. YOU are responsible for making people think you're a pointless, trolling wanker and thus treat you as such. Give them an excuse NOT to think that of you, or treat you like that. You haven't so far, and based on your most recent efforts, probably won't.

You should note that not one poster on this board treats you with anything like the respect other posters get, all you get is mockery and irritation. It is up to you, if you so desire, to change that. I have my doubts that you desire changing it, and I certainly have my doubts about your ability to change it, but I am more than happy to be proven wrong.

Everyone gets a second (third, fourth, fifth etc) chance, like I said above:

"You're a demonstrated liar, troll and bigot. And yes, like AFDavey we know you lack the ability to comprehend this and keep trying to turn tables and weasel out of it. Unlike you Troll, I and the other human members of this board have no need of revisionist history, another fact you don't appreciate.

<snip Nastase story>

Go away or behave like a rational adult. The choice as always is yours."

Trolling a board really doesn't serve any purpose other than being childishly irritating. You aren't making new and interesting points, you aren't introducing novel and exciting topics, you are merely spouting trite crap and being an irritating wanker. Your posts are flamebait, nothing more. Your delusions of adequacy simply don't constitute evidence.

So perhaps rather than pissing about with sweaty wrestlers, goggle trawled contrarian bullshit try to demonstrate that you are an intelligent and honest contributor. I personally don't hold grudges so you'll get me on side at least, whether or not you care about that is immaterial. But don't for a second expect that anything less that a full apology and demonstrable improvement in posting habits/content will grant you the grace you appear to think you deserve.

A good start would be a post acknowledging your trolling past, openly apologising for it, and stating that from that point on that you, regardless of differences of opinion (all of which are fine) you will attempt to behave honestly and with some modicum of intellectual rigour. Humour is good, mockery is good, disagreement is good, your conduct thus far is not good. And it really really isn't just me that thinks this. Most people don't bother to give you the time of day Troll, consider that, and consider why.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2007,10:58   

Louis:

Don't make me laugh. You will never be civil regardless of what I do, and you know why? Because I tipped your sacred cows. Now there might be other issues going on (you seem to be insecure about your intellect, and I think my mockery of your logic has sorta fucked you up, but I'm not sure about this because I can only go by your posts), but that fundamental fact will never change.

If that weren't enough (and of course it is), there's also the fact that Stevestory rewards your (and other people's) behaviour by banning/restricting the objects of your abuse. Don't want Dave around? No problem! Just hurl brickbats and rotten tomatoes and then whine about the level of incivility, and presto! Dave's World is closed. So now you apply the same strategy to others. That's why I'm turning in, tuning in, and dropping out of your game: I've got better things to do than flog blowhards. So flame away and drop turds to your heart's content; I'll talk with the adults. There are plenty of mature people here and maybe I can reach them. Get this straight, however: I have no interest in "patching things up" with the likes of you, Lenny, or Fishy. You're not worth the trouble; ####, you're not even very interesting. I don't care if you participate in my threads but don't expect a reply. If that sounds snarky it isn't meant to be -- I don't find you irritating, just boring.

This is my last post to you.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2007,13:03   

:O

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If that weren't enough (and of course it is), there's also the fact that Stevestory rewards your (and other people's) behaviour by banning/restricting the objects of your abuse. Don't want Dave around? No problem! Just hurl brickbats and rotten tomatoes and then whine about the level of incivility, and presto! Dave's World is closed.


Ghost: I appreciate your promise to not give into (or resort to) flamebait from now on, but this was startling at best.

Please tell me you are joking.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2007,13:33   

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Please tell me you are joking.


I guess I'm still a little pissed about the whole situation.

It's certainly true that Dave had thousands of posts to make his point, an opportunity he proceeded to squander in an occasionally jaw-dropping fashion. It's also true that there were a lot of side issues involved. But Stevestory clearly stated that one of the reasons for removing Dave was he was tired of dealing with the sniping and possible defamation by PT contributors, and that he thought it made the anticreationist side look bad. He didn't punish the offenders, he PUNISHED DAVE. Now what kind of message does that send to the jackals?

By the way, the only reason I'm talking about these issues is because it's been brought up in several threads, so I assume that the normal restriction has been waived in this instance. Nevertheless, I'm not going to dwell on it anymore because it's not my site. The only vote that counts is Wes's, and he has made his decision.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2007,13:43   

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Please tell me you are joking.


I guess I'm still a little pissed about the whole situation.

It's certainly true that Dave had thousands of posts to make his point, an oppurtunity he proceeded to squander in an occasionally jaw-dropping fashion. It's also true that there were a lot of side issues involved. But Stevestory clearly stated that one of the reasons for removing Dave was he was tired of dealing with the sniping and possible defamation by PT contributors, and that he thought it made the anticreationist side look bad. He didn't punish the offenders, he PUNISHED DAVE.

On the other side, you are the example of a troll who has been acting for a whole year on a forum, without being banned. Consider yourself lucky. ;)

And Steve closed Dave's thread partly because the guy was unable to learn and support his hypothesis.
I also remember him censoring a few posts containing insults.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2007,14:23   

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On the other side, you are the example of a troll who has been acting for a whole year on a forum, without being banned. Consider yourself lucky. ;)


True, and I do. But remember that I've been muzzled on some topics. Not complaining, just reminding.

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And Steve closed Dave's thread partly because the guy was unable to learn and support his hypothesis.
I also remember him censoring a few posts containing insults.


Admittedly, it's hard to regulate a thread when it's nothing but insults.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2007,14:37   

Quote (The Ghost of Paley @ Jan. 13 2007,13:33)
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Please tell me you are joking.


I guess I'm still a little pissed about the whole situation.

It's certainly true that Dave had thousands of posts to make his point, an opportunity he proceeded to squander in an occasionally jaw-dropping fashion. It's also true that there were a lot of side issues involved. But Stevestory clearly stated that one of the reasons for removing Dave was he was tired of dealing with the sniping and possible defamation by PT contributors, and that he thought it made the anticreationist side look bad. He didn't punish the offenders, he PUNISHED DAVE. Now what kind of message does that send to the jackals?

By the way, the only reason I'm talking about these issues is because it's been brought up in several threads, so I assume that the normal restriction has been waived in this instance. Nevertheless, I'm not going to dwell on it anymore because it's not my site. The only vote that counts is Wes's, and he has made his decision.

I quite liked the AFDave thread. Not because of Dave though. Some of the replies where very informative and useful.

On the other hand, Dave was behaving in a very bad way. Refusing to answer questions, dodging etc. Is bad manners when you consider how much thought was put into the replies.

Whilst I did not like the insults, I can completely understand why people lost patience and resorted to using them.

Now consider this before you criticise moderation policy here. You are still being allowed to post, yet you spent about a year trolling this forum. The difference between you and AFDave? You stopped arguing once you painted yourself into a corner.

Unfortunately, you would then start another thread and persue the same tactics. Do you not think that you owe an apology to people that spent time refuting you? Time they could maybe have used more productively.

*sorry for any spelling/grammatical mistakes but days off start tomorrow and a tad drunk.*

*saying that, I make them when sober anyway.*

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2007,16:52   

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Holy Cow, I think my avatar just got thwacked!

Ah, well.  I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.   ;)


Looks pretty much the same as normal to me.

Yeah, it was all of YOU guys who thwacked it . . .   ;)

It's stored on my website, and when y'all exceeded the hourly bandwidth limit by looking at my gorgeous face  (tee hee), it shut off my avatar too.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2007,16:56   

Of course you're free to believe whatever you like Troll. You're free to make up whatever little fictions you think will help you get through the day. The simple fact that I'm telling the truth, and telling it like it really is will obviously never cross your mind.

So sad.

Louis

P.S. Oh and you weren't muzzled, you were comprehensively shown to be talking through your arsehole, yet again, and like Thordaddy and other concern troll bigots you were told to either acknowledge the evidence against your claim and the illogic of your claim or shut up. Since you couldn't do that, WE were all prevented from discussing the topic with you. Not due to any sacred cows, due to your ability to be totally oblivious to evidence and reality. Spin that any way you like, it doesn't and won't change the facts. People have been banned for less Troll, you got a #### of a lot of tolerance. All undeserved.

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