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Posted: Dec. 06 2007,19:51

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 06 2007,19:22)

Actually, I think Zero's answer was perfect. I guess you are going to have to accept him dancing to a tune different than the one you are calling.

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Posted: Dec. 06 2007,20:08

Did you hear about the blond nurse who took a red crayon
to work, in case she had to draw blood?

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Posted: Dec. 06 2007,22:21

IMO:

Heaven, the first thing God made, has never and will never move.
God has never raised or lowered the bar.
God has never changed directions.
God has never changed his plans.
God does not change, give up, or quit.
God has never changed the plan of salvation:

Eze 33:14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die;
if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
Eze 33:15 [If] the wicked restore the pledge, give again
that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing
iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Mal 3:6 For I [am] the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Zero

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Posted: Dec. 07 2007,03:50

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Assassinator, there is no 'language question'.

I live in America and speak English.

There is. When the Bible was written, wich didn't even happen simultaniously, America didn't even exist. The language we're speaking right now didn't even exist. The Bible wasn't written in your language, it was in Hebrew, Greek and Araimac. The Bible your finding "patterns" in is nothing more then a (rough) translation.

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Posted: Dec. 07 2007,03:52

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Heaven, the first thing God made, has never and will never move.
God has never raised or lowered the bar.
God has never changed directions.
God has never changed his plans.
God does not change, give up, or quit.
God has never changed the plan of salvation:

How incredibly cocky! You're speaking for God, who do you think you are?? He can speak for himself, you don't have to tell him what to do.

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Posted: Dec. 07 2007,06:46

Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 07 2007,03:52)

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Heaven, the first thing God made, has never and will never move.
God has never raised or lowered the bar.
God has never changed directions.
God has never changed his plans.
God does not change, give up, or quit.
God has never changed the plan of salvation:

How incredibly cocky! You're speaking for God, who do you think you are?? He can speak for himself, you don't have to tell him what to do.

Hey Dude, you misquoted me. I said,"IMO",
then quoted God:

IMO:

Heaven, the first thing God made, has never and will never move.
God has never raised or lowered the bar.
God has never changed directions.
God has never changed his plans.
God does not change, give up, or quit.
God has never changed the plan of salvation:

Eze 33:14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die;
if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
Eze 33:15 [If] the wicked restore the pledge, give again
that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing
iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Mal 3:6 For I [am] the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Zero

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Posted: Dec. 07 2007,07:09

Alright, so what you're saying is that the All Powerful, All Seeing Creator of the Universe needed to speak to me so he spoke to some guy named John 2000 years ago, gave him a nightmare, told him to write it down in a book in Greek, to be passed down through time and roughly translated into Elizabethan English around 1611, so that in 2007 some random internet guy could use a letter replacement cypher to tell me that God + Jesus = 96.

Well, that was productive.

Wouldn't it have been easier to just engrave it on a rock and hit me with it?

Alternatively, he might have just spoken to me and said, "Hey dumbass..." in which case he might take the time to explain exactly why I should care that God + Jesus = 96. I'd be more likely to listen that way, because he apparently made me rather dense.

I feel bad about that, because he went to a lot of trouble, and I still don't see the significance.

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Posted: Dec. 07 2007,07:48

For one thing Lou, God + Jesus doesn't equal 96.
They equal 100 (74+ 26).
God between God = 126 (9 x 14 ) the first x the last.
Secondly, that which is written in stone twice,
is written in stone.
Lou, you are made like your maker. Your mind
is infinite and will never fill up so enjoy.

Zero

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Posted: Dec. 07 2007,08:06

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 07 2007,08:48)

For one thing Lou, God + Jesus doesn't equal 96.
They equal 100 (74+ 26).
God between God = 126 (9 x 14 ) the first x the last.
Secondly, that which is written in stone twice,
is written in stone.
Lou, you are made like your maker. Your mind
is infinite and will never fill up so enjoy.

Zero

I picked a number, Zero. It might as well have been 7,584. Or 42. See, if God + Jesus = 42, you might be on to something.

It just seems like it's an awful round-about way to tell me something that doesn't make any sense in the first place.

Further,

God = 26
Horseshit = 121
Zero = 64
Crap = 38

So, Zero (64) + crap (38) + God (26) - 7 (days of creation) = Horseshit (121)

Now in this instance I'm not just trying to be rude, but rather to illustrate that you can do what you do and make it say anything you want.

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Posted: Dec. 07 2007,08:23

Hey Lou,
7,584 & 42 are good numbers. Don't knock em.

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Posted: Dec. 07 2007,09:00

The Ark (saving 8)

No rudder, no sail

No front, no tail

No left, no right

No lights in sight

No charts, no maps

{Some prayers perhaps}

No dinghy in tow

No motor to go

One window, one door

3 floors, no more

But it served its purpose

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Posted: Dec. 07 2007,12:41

The Nitty Gritty

Hey Son, where you goin'
Across the sands of time?
No footprints to follow,
No feet seen behind.

Can you see where you're goin?
Do you wonder where you've been?
Are you in a place called heaven
Or is hell around each bend?

You've got to learn to take it easy
And to rest a while each day.
Stop and think about tomorrow.
Set some signs along the way.

For life is what you make it.
Don't let others steer you wrong.
Love and laugh, live and take it.
Drown your tears in a song.

Take a little bit of heaven.
Raise a little bit of hell.
You've got to live to learn the difference
Or your song will never sail.

Son, don't ever build a mountain
You cannot climb alone.
Set the beat and face the music
If no others sing along.

If you want to build a highway
For folks to walk upon,
Make sure you make it two-way
And travel with a song.

For who will want to follow
A fellow to the end,
If they don't know where he's goin'
And they don't know where he's been.

See, the world will not remember
Even signs stuck in the sand.
Don't be preachin' without teachin'
Don;t play God, just be a man.

If the world will not accept you
And you've given all you can,
Call for help when help is needed
And I'll meet you in the sand.

So kiss the Son, you sons of leaven.
Bow your knee, you kings of sin.
I'll not slay my son for heaven.
I'll not tell him where I've been.

Zero

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Posted: Dec. 08 2007,08:00

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 07 2007,09:00)

The Ark (saving 8)

No rudder, no sail

No front, no tail

No left, no right

No lights in sight

No charts, no maps

{Some prayers perhaps}

No dinghy in tow

No motor to go

One window, one door

3 floors, no more

But it served its purpose

Not to mention, No Ark.

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Posted: Dec. 09 2007,19:06

Happy Birthday Steve

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Posted: Dec. 10 2007,07:03

Thanks so much!

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Posted: Dec. 10 2007,10:16

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 06 2007,19:13)

Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 06 2007,16:07)

You're ignoring the language question, I'm still eager to hear.

Assassinator, there is no 'language question'.

I live in America and speak English. If God
can't handle that, I'm in a heap of trouble.

Mar 12:27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err

Zero

English was good enough for Jesus, it should be good enough for Lou. :angry:

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Posted: Dec. 10 2007,13:31

Quote (Steverino @ Dec. 08 2007,08:00)

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 07 2007,09:00)

The Ark (saving 8)

No rudder, no sail

No front, no tail

No left, no right

No lights in sight

No charts, no maps

{Some prayers perhaps}

No dinghy in tow

No motor to go

One window, one door

3 floors, no more

But it served its purpose

Not to mention, No Ark.

all of those animals
Just wouldn't fit
Where was the food stored?
and where was the excrement?

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Posted: Dec. 10 2007,13:54

Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 10 2007,13:31)

Quote (Steverino @ Dec. 08 2007,08:00)

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 07 2007,09:00)

The Ark (saving 8)

No rudder, no sail

No front, no tail

No left, no right

No lights in sight

No charts, no maps

{Some prayers perhaps}

No dinghy in tow

No motor to go

One window, one door

3 floors, no more

But it served its purpose

Not to mention, No Ark.

all of those animals
Just wouldn't fit
Where was the food stored?
and where was the excrement?

Richard - I hate to step on any toes, but I believe I can help with the "excrement question":

The excrement was saved,
and given back as a turd.
It's come back to us
Disguised as God's Word.

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Posted: Dec. 12 2007,09:25

Quote (J-Dog @ Dec. 10 2007,13:54)

Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 10 2007,13:31)

Quote (Steverino @ Dec. 08 2007,08:00)

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 07 2007,09:00)

The Ark (saving 8)

No rudder, no sail

No front, no tail

No left, no right

No lights in sight

No charts, no maps

{Some prayers perhaps}

No dinghy in tow

No motor to go

One window, one door

3 floors, no more

But it served its purpose

Not to mention, No Ark.

all of those animals
Just wouldn't fit
Where was the food stored?
and where was the excrement?

Richard - I hate to step on any toes, but I believe I can help with the "excrement question":

The excrement was saved,
and given back as a turd.
It's come back to us
Disguised as God's Word.

J, Noah’s Ark is similar to the Ark of the testament where God
said he would meet with the high priest, between the two cherubim.

Notice that my avatar, the chart, and the infinity sign, all have
a balance point, zero in the middle.

In reality, God created time, size, and direction. Each has a zero
in the middle. You have six contacts with reality. Each has a zero
in the middle. (Study a Lilly)
Here in reality, O is real.
Here in life, O is real.
Here in creation, O is real.
In the middle of time, O is real.
In the middle of size, O is real.
In the middle of direction, O is real.
In the middle of ‘GOD’, O is real.

Zero

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Posted: Dec. 12 2007,12:09

Hey Zero, do you ever make sense? Do you ever speak in clear english, without the nonsense?

Just curious.

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Posted: Dec. 12 2007,14:27

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Dec. 12 2007,12:09)

Hey Zero, do you ever make sense? Do you ever speak in clear english, without the nonsense?

Just curious.

Christopher, IMO, Christ and Ophir are two thirds of
the family (trinity) of God.

Pro 16:11 A just weight and balance [are] the LORD'S:
all the weights of the bag [are] his work.

Isa 40:12 Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand,
and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of
the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales,
and the hills in a balance?

Zero

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Posted: Dec. 12 2007,14:29

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 12 2007,14:27)

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Dec. 12 2007,12:09)

Hey Zero, do you ever make sense? Do you ever speak in clear english, without the nonsense?

Just curious.

Christopher, IMO, Christ and Ophir are two thirds of
the family (trinity) of God.

Pro 16:11 A just weight and balance [are] the LORD'S:
all the weights of the bag [are] his work.

Isa 40:12 Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand,
and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of
the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales,
and the hills in a balance?

Zero

"No," in other words.

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Posted: Dec. 12 2007,22:11

Jim, check out a Lilly.

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Posted: Dec. 13 2007,10:17

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 12 2007,14:27)

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Dec. 12 2007,12:09)

Hey Zero, do you ever make sense? Do you ever speak in clear english, without the nonsense?

Just curious.

Christopher, IMO, Christ and Ophir are two thirds of
the family (trinity) of God.

Pro 16:11 A just weight and balance [are] the LORD'S:
all the weights of the bag [are] his work.

Isa 40:12 Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand,
and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of
the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales,
and the hills in a balance?

Zero

I'll take that as a no.

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Posted: Dec. 13 2007,11:00

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 12 2007,22:11)

Jim, check out a Lilly.

Like this one?

Or did you mean "lily"?

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Posted: Dec. 13 2007,11:50

Ok....I'm checking out Lilly....what should I be looking for???

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Posted: Dec. 14 2007,07:01

Steve:

"Ok....I'm checking out Lilly....what should I be looking for???"
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Mat 6:28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies
of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:

Mat 6:29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all
his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

An 'array' has to do with a matrix, particularly in math.

Zero

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Posted: Dec. 14 2007,21:21

As my 11 year old daughter would day, "Duh!"

Again why doesn't God = King = One? You seem to be surprised that things "=" when you manipulate the phrase.

Big deal.

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