deadman_932
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Joined: May 2006
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I'm glad you said that, Dave,because that agrees with what the Bible says, when one works backwards ( or forwards) using the dates and lifespans given. But there's a problem, Dave: Your whole edifice of cards balances on this one point: that the Bible is absolutely true. Yet you admit that the Global flood, wiping out all things on the face of the Earth...happened at between 2000-3000 BCE. Let's look at why you are wrong:
During this period that the BIBLE says the "global flood " happened, the records of various groups continue uninterrupted: By 2375 BC, most of Sumer was united under one king, Lugalzaggisi of Umma, Sumerian records continue on.Uninterrupted by any mention of global flooding . The earliest surviving inscriptions in Akkadian go back to 2500 B.C. and are the oldest known written records in a Semitic tongue. They continue in an unbroken record.
Egyptian history during the Old Kingdom (2700-2200 BC) continues unbroken by global flooding . 2200 bc is the date of oldest existing document written on papyrus, prior to that, we have inscriptions and incised clay tablets as well. The Chinese had settled in the Huang He (or "Ho" in some translations) , or Yellow River, valley of northern China by 3000 BC. In the Indus Vallley, we have the Early Harappa Phase C, 2550 BC which continues unbroken to c.1900 BC . We also have the early minoan and mycenean groups in the mediterranean, and as for the new world, Researchers publishing in the Dec. 23 edition of the scientific journal Nature date the first complex society of the Americas, from roughly 3000 to 1800 B.C. NONE of these groups were destroyed by any "global flood" NONE.
But you'll say it's all a lie, Dave, because the "dates" must be wrong, or some other similarly dishonest shit. But there's a problem with that, too, Dave.
We have to either :
(1) reject the factual historicity of the Flood account;
(2)accept the historicity of the Flood account, but explain away the clear Biblical dating of the event, showing the Bible is in error; or
(3) accept the Biblical account and chronology, and reject the massive amount of written and archaological evidence establishing the chronology of history in the near East. This chronolgy is not just supported by radiometric dating methods (C-14, etc.), but other absolute NON-radiometric methods as well: dendrochronology, corals, varves, ice cores, stalagmite/stalactites and more. Now, how could it be that ALL of those dating methods agree that no global flood happened and that the archaeology and other sources are correct?
You are the son of a missionary and a YEC (Young-Earth Creationist) , Dave, and I sincerely doubt that there was any time in which you critically, skeptically reviewed the claims of the Bible. Similarly, you know diddly-squat about science and yet embark on this idiotic campaign to use patently fallacious and erroneous claims against people that DO know science-- I myself spent 8 years at UCLA in Archaeology and Paleoanthro, Dave-- but you choose not to actually learn, you have your predetermined answers...and have had them since your daddy first indoctrinated you.
Instead what you have done and shown here time and time again, is to RETROFIT all available data to meet your initial claim of Biblical Literalism and Infallibility. Any data that does NOT fit ? Well, You claim it must be wrong, since the Bible is always right. This is not skepticism, Dave. This is manic, mindless fundamentalism.
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AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism
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