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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: July 13 2012,12:31   

Quote (Patrick @ July 13 2012,12:22)
 
Quote (Robin @ July 13 2012,13:07)
Methinks someone might have to explain Joe to Diogenes. It seems the latter thinks the former's perspective is in line with the rest of the IDists.

Yo Diogenes...if you read this, you might want to note that it's not that Joe isn't one the same wavelength with the rest of the DI denizens, he's not sane.

In all seriousness, I am still not 100% convinced that Joe is not a sophisticated bot operated by someone with a twisted sense of humor.  He responds to nearly all comments with some variant of "Your position doesn't explain anything.", aside from those on his blog where he mixes things up with schoolyard style vulgarity.

It is difficult to distinguish his output from that of a Markov text generator.

Patrick, your analysis is spot on. To wit: (UD Link)
 
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Diogenes,

Your position doesn’t have anything to do with science. It doesn’t make any predictions and cannot be tested.

Deal with it…


Ohhh...my sides are hurting from laughing so much!  :D

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 13 2012,15:43   

Check out KF hissyfit / dishonesty:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-427817

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First, please look again at just the flowchart of the filter. You will see that there are two successive defaults before one would infer to design: necessity, and chance. (In other words you have shown yourself unable to unwilling to read a simple diagram before making a rather nasty adverse comment. Consider this a warning.)


They're not "defaults", shit for brains.

then:

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This last is clearly an exercise in willful atmosphere poisoning, which is not tolerated in this blog — for good reason.

Given that; you have just one opportunity to make amends, and failing that kindly do not ever post again in any thread that I am author of.

Good day

GEM of TKI


EXPELLED!!!1111one

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NormOlsen



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(Permalink) Posted: July 13 2012,15:51   

Nullasalus keeps trying to lure Diogenes into a ban trap:
   
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I mean, it’s not like Dawkins rolled up and denied the Law of Non-Contradiction or anything. That’s out in flat-out moron mouthbreather territory. I’m sure you’d agree.

Meanwhile Barry waits patiently with his hammer ...

  
NormOlsen



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(Permalink) Posted: July 13 2012,16:02   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 13 2012,15:43)
Check out KF hissyfit / dishonesty:

[URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/id-foundations/id-foundations-16-a-pivotal-facet-of-id-foundations-so-far-the-significance-of-inductive-r




easoning-on-observed-reliable-signs-for-inferring-design-in-the-world-of-life-and-the-fine




-tuned-cosmos/#comment-427817]http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-427817[/URL]

   
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First, please look again at just the flowchart of the filter. You will see that there are two successive defaults before one would infer to design: necessity, and chance. (In other words you have shown yourself unable to unwilling to read a simple diagram before making a rather nasty adverse comment. Consider this a warning.)


They're not "defaults", shit for brains.

then:

   
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This last is clearly an exercise in willful atmosphere poisoning, which is not tolerated in this blog — for good reason.

Given that; you have just one opportunity to make amends, and failing that kindly do not ever post again in any thread that I am author of.

Good day

GEM of TKI


EXPELLED!!!1111one

That was some classic KF!  I particularly liked this bit of blather:
 
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Notice, contrary to your talking point, no probablility calculation is required; other than that that would estimate information storing capacity per standard techniques. (In most relevant cases, info carrying capacity is estimated directly using standard techniques, e.g. DNA is 2 bits per character, as is well known, though the codes tend to have some redundancy.)

What a dumb-ass.  He's clearly terrified by Diogenes though, given his final plea to be left alone (with his precious diagrams).

  
Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: July 13 2012,16:59   

KF wouldn't come up with a shiny new OP just to escape the nagging about the definition of "transitional fossil" and "fully formed body plans" in the other thread? A very own OP where he can ban nasty Diogenes?

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: July 13 2012,20:30   

Hey gordo, since you read this site I'm sure that you'll be happy to see some of your own words here. Remember these?:

"We must seize the initiative in the battle of ideas.  In spiritual warfare we "demolish [deceptive] arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."  [2 Cor. 10: 5.]  Let us take the Christian case to the campus, the school, the media, the Internet, business, institutions, the man in the street and people in their homes."

And:

"God is the eternal, holy, perfect, all-powerful, all-knowing, loving Creator and Sustainer of the
cosmos, who made humanity in his image, to be his stewards of the earth."

And:

"In short, those who would isolate the gospel and godliness from the affairs of day to day life at once deny the Lordship of Christ, and fall into deepest heresy."  

And:

"Thus, we need to go beyond just shoring up defences against the Islamic and Secularist-Neopagan-Apostate tidal waves now battering the region. While we need to study and equip our people to respond to misleading arguments and agendas that seek to block the true knowledge of God, we also need to see ourselves strategically: a potential major Mission Force in the world, to carry the Gospel of the Kingdom to all nations."

And:

"And FYI, proud and disrespectful mockers on UD, that T in my name that you and your ilk so lightly play scornful games with is there because the self same blood that stood on that hill courses in my veins.

A name that is a war cry."

And:

"There is a time and place for compromise, but there is a time where one has to stand on the hill with the pruning hook one has beaten into an impromptu spear and be willing to die for “wee bit hill and glen.”"

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Hmm, a war cry, eh? Beat a pruning hook into a spear, eh? Mission "Force", eh? And then there's that millstone that you think should be put around the necks of everyone who disagrees with you so that they can be drowned in the deepest part of the sea. And of course there's the fact that you support the genocide that was commanded and/or carried out by your chosen god yhwh (according to your so-called holy book that you believe is inerrant), and the fact that you say that any command by your "perfect" god is a "good" command. I've seen your support of willy 'genocide' craig too. Oh, and there's your favorite bible passage: Rom 1. And don't forget Mr. Leathers!

Sounds like you want to kill people rather than "die". You say an awful lot (more than what is above) about weapons and bombs and war and killing and beating and punishing and taking your religious "force" and "cells" to every nation of the world and cramming your insane dogma into everyone's thoughts and life. You're the aggressor, not the victim, and you're the one promoting going "beyond shoring up defences". You sound as though you're threatening your opponents "mafioso-style" and then some!

Like so many other christians and other religious monsters of the past and present you obviously want to wage a bloody "war" on everyone who doesn't kiss your sanctimonious, genocide-supporting ass, and by your own admission you have friends who are murderers. Would you like to do the spearing and drowning yourself or have your murderous friends do it for you? Have you killed anyone lately? Beaten yours or any other children? Beaten your wife? Kicked your dog? Killed your dog? Is your basement stocked with guns, pruning hooks, spears, and millstones? Have you got a spare Mr. Leathers or two in case you break it on your kids or wife or someone else?


ETA: fixed typos

Edited by The whole truth on July 13 2012,18:54

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Freddie



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2012,09:13   

Johnny B of "The Blyth Institute" (Director: Jonathan Bartlett) has a new video of his up for viewing on UD. This is from the recent "Engineering and Metaphysics 2012" conference held in conjunction with Oral Roberts University.

KF comments approvingly (italics in original):
     
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JB: Beautiful substantial equivalence on inferred credible reality of hidden factors from what is observable point! KF

Whatever the hell that means ...

The conference program is here (Conference Home) and it looks like there are a number of video presentations uploaded, including one intriguingly title "An Engineering Perspective on Suffering:
The Problem of Evil and Suffering from an Engineering Perspective".  

Conference presenters include: Dr. Walter Bradley (Baylor University), Dr. Alexander Sich (Franciscan University of Steubenville), Dr. Dominic Halsmer (Oral Roberts University), P. Wesley Odom (Oral Roberts University), Dr. William Jordan (Baylor University), Dr. Mark Hall (Oral Roberts University), Jonathan Bartlett (The Blyth Institute), Winston Ewert (Baylor University), Eric Holloway, and Arminius Mignea.

Have fun ...

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Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.
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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2012,09:41   

From an engineering perspective one could say if it hurts, don't do it.

Advice apparently not honored by designers when interacting with designees.

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socle



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2012,10:45   

Quote (The whole truth @ July 13 2012,20:30)
"And FYI, proud and disrespectful mockers on UD, that T in my name that you and your ilk so lightly play scornful games with is there because the self same blood that stood on that hill courses in my veins.

A name that is a war cry."



  
Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2012,12:03   

Quote (socle @ July 14 2012,11:45)
Quote (The whole truth @ July 13 2012,20:30)
"And FYI, proud and disrespectful mockers on UD, that T in my name that you and your ilk so lightly play scornful games with is there because the self same blood that stood on that hill courses in my veins.

A name that is a war cry."



These aren't covered in enough spittle to have been used by kairosfocus.

Edited by Patrick on July 14 2012,14:12

  
Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2012,13:30   

Mr Leathers strikes again!  
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Diogenes was ill informed or willfully deceitful on the question of defaults. he then used this in an atmosphere poisoning exercise that appeals to misinformation, bigotry, prejudice and slanders of Christians and those influenced by Christianity as a whole.

Such incivility has to be corrected, and restrained. As well we know from experience on what it does and has repeatedly done in this blog and elsewhere.




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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2012,14:43   

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englishmaninistanbul"
1. Is it possible that we could discover an artifact on Mars that would prove the existence of extraterrestrials, without the presence or remains of the extraterrestrials themselves?


Short answer is no.

Longer answer is that science doesn't do proofs. If a Martian artifact resembled something produced by human technology then we might suspect, or even believe, that it was made by humans or something like humans.

So what examples do we have of beings that can design life from scratch?

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2012,14:48   

Gem Of Picky... Has A Sad... Born just 6 centuries too late...

NO ONE EXCPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!111



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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2012,17:03   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 12 2012,15:43)
Gordon Mullings gets asked for specifics, shits the bed:

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F/N: I see an attempt to draw us out on a further tangent regarding triceratops and kin. I will simply say, what is the vertical transformational significance of variations beyond say those of the deer family or say the pattern of diversity we may see across mastodons and elephants, or the Finches of the Galapagos? Again, where is the lead up to the general body plan, and the lead out to a farther along one, climbing up a branch to an alleged “higher” life form? I trust this makes the pivotal issue sufficiently plain, and why I see no point in further entertaining distractors maintained even after I took a fair amount of time to already address and correct them. After a couple of rounds like that, it becomes evident that side-tracking was the rhetorical object, not clarity.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-427720

And he's run off. Coward.

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Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2012,17:16   

Impotent rant about malarial fever swamp in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2012,18:41   

Reading through the thread on the designed atom, it occurs to me that the meanest, nastiest thing you could possible do to a UD denizen is quote them at length.

Why does anyone bother to write about them when they do such a good job of parodying themselves?

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 14 2012,22:09   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 14 2012,17:03)
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 12 2012,15:43)
Gordon Mullings gets asked for specifics, shits the bed:

 
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F/N: I see an attempt to draw us out on a further tangent regarding triceratops and kin. I will simply say, what is the vertical transformational significance of variations beyond say those of the deer family or say the pattern of diversity we may see across mastodons and elephants, or the Finches of the Galapagos? Again, where is the lead up to the general body plan, and the lead out to a farther along one, climbing up a branch to an alleged “higher” life form? I trust this makes the pivotal issue sufficiently plain, and why I see no point in further entertaining distractors maintained even after I took a fair amount of time to already address and correct them. After a couple of rounds like that, it becomes evident that side-tracking was the rhetorical object, not clarity.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-427720

And he's run off. Coward.

And he back

Hi Gordo! *waves*

It's frankly pathetic how you wont give your definition. You accuse others of everything, but in the cold light of day you're a coward, unable to give the definition. I imagine the Scottish Mullings would be very embarrassed by you - I suggest you change your motto from bydand to *bwaka!*, the sound of retreating poultry.

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BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2012,04:33   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 15 2012,04:09)
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 14 2012,17:03)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 12 2012,15:43)
Gordon Mullings gets asked for specifics, shits the bed:

   
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F/N: I see an attempt to draw us out on a further tangent regarding triceratops and kin. I will simply say, what is the vertical transformational significance of variations beyond say those of the deer family or say the pattern of diversity we may see across mastodons and elephants, or the Finches of the Galapagos? Again, where is the lead up to the general body plan, and the lead out to a farther along one, climbing up a branch to an alleged “higher” life form? I trust this makes the pivotal issue sufficiently plain, and why I see no point in further entertaining distractors maintained even after I took a fair amount of time to already address and correct them. After a couple of rounds like that, it becomes evident that side-tracking was the rhetorical object, not clarity.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-427720

And he's run off. Coward.

And he back

Hi Gordo! *waves*

It's frankly pathetic how you wont give your definition. You accuse others of everything, but in the cold light of day you're a coward, unable to give the definition. I imagine the Scottish Mullings would be very embarrassed by you - I suggest you change your motto from bydand to *bwaka!*, the sound of retreating poultry.

Just wait, I can feel it growing in the air ...

Semi quasi psuedo transitional quarter semi final-final body plan.
Someone should write a book - a comedyof errors

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2012,05:38   

With latching

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2012,10:47   

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Semi quasi psuedo transitional quarter semi final-final body plan.
AKA Ornithorhynchus anatinus

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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2012,12:21   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 14 2012,11:30)
Mr Leathers strikes again!    
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Diogenes was ill informed or willfully deceitful on the question of defaults. he then used this in an atmosphere poisoning exercise that appeals to misinformation, bigotry, prejudice and slanders of Christians and those influenced by Christianity as a whole.

Such incivility has to be corrected, and restrained. As well we know from experience on what it does and has repeatedly done in this blog and elsewhere.




"The floggings will continue until morale improves."

Gordon Mullings, you are a laughingstock.  A clown. Everyone's laughing at you.  Just like in school.

eta apologies to blipey et al, you know what I mean.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2012,22:11   

Gil seems to have won a prize for obfuscation.

http://www.ioccc.org/winners....rs.html

Actually, I'm a bit impressed. I used to be a C coder.

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,00:06   

Quote (midwifetoad @ July 15 2012,22:11)
Gil seems to have won a prize for obfuscation.

http://www.ioccc.org/winners....rs.html

Actually, I'm a bit impressed. I used to be a C coder.

It's Gil Dogon not Dodgen and the hint.text file says that Mr Dogon lives in Jerusalem, Israel. I am pretty sure that if Gil Godgen ever lived in Jerusalem he could not have resisted mentioning this in his awakening story. How could he not mention JERUSALEM if possible? You know, world class scientist father's raised as an evil atheist piano playing hang gliding computer engineering son etc.

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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,06:02   

This must be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen at UD.

It's a kind of filo pastry of stupidity.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,06:12   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 12 2012,01:30)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ July 11 2012,16:43)
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That's only if his words have any weight to start with. ;)

Hmm. What's the oppostive of a citation?

Gordo:
   
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Viruses, of course, are not self-replicating. They hijack the machinery of a living cell, and act as rogue programs. (The use of the term computer virus was in part inspired by that.)


But Gordo, these "rogue programs" were also designed, remember?

Programs have programmers etc etc.

So, Gordo, explain that! He's a bit of a shit this "designer" of yours, no?

[URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/origin-of-life/id-foundations-15-migneas-simplest-self-replicator-the-vnsr-and-a-designed-origin-of-cell-




based-life/#comment-427656]DUH![/URL]

EDIT: Even KF's post titles are overly verbose and break the links. Fuck it, it can stay like that as a testament to his windbaggery.

That's a strange definition of 'self-replicating'. The virus synthesizes things external to itself to make more of itself. Are we not self replicating , as we don't make our own food / atmosphere / gravity etc? These are complex things that we are most surely 'hijacking'.

Did God invent cloning? HOMO!

I think not.

Viruses are teh work of Satan.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,06:13   

Quote (Febble @ July 16 2012,06:02)
This must be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen at UD.

It's a kind of filo pastry of stupidity.

We expect no less from Denyse. This self-described science journalist once wrote that she "wouldn’t be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified."

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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,06:28   

Quote (olegt @ July 16 2012,06:13)
Quote (Febble @ July 16 2012,06:02)
This must be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen at UD.

It's a kind of filo pastry of stupidity.

We expect no less from Denyse. This self-described science journalist once wrote that she "wouldn’t be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified."

Golly, I thought that was either apocryphal or Denyse actually being quite witty.

Looks like she really meant it.

OK, by comparison, thinking that because epigenetics and environment make monozygotic twins different means that you can't use twin studies to quantify heritability is quite smart.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,06:36   

Quote (olegt @ July 16 2012,06:13)
   
Quote (Febble @ July 16 2012,06:02)
This must be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen at UD.

It's a kind of filo pastry of stupidity.

We expect no less from Denyse. This self-described science journalist once wrote that she "wouldn’t be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified."

Let's not overlook the "And they say Darwinism isn't a religion" thread.

The very first line, which is    
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From “Ernst Mayr, Pioneer in Tracing Geography’s Role in the Origin of Species, Dies at 100” (New York Times, February 5, 2005), an obituary profile by Carol Kaesuk Yoon:
grabs my attention: Where the hell has Dense been for the last seven years?

And since another writer wrote, “He was the Darwin of the 20th century, the defender of the faith” then Darwinism must be a religion.  Corny will love to hear this.

And don't forget, 'Though Darwin titled his book “The Origin of Species,” little in the book, in fact, addresses the question of how new species arise.'  In a way, she's right.  The title page, for instance, has very little to do with how new species arise except that it says it's about the Origin of Species.  And Darwin never once mentions DNA and we all know that's where The Designer stashes his CSI when the designing urge comes upon Him.

And then she finishes things up with this:    
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He actually never needed to do that. he just needed to supply these people with a religion they could use for their own purposes. And what are those purposes?

David Berlinski explains:

   
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One of the reasons that people embrace Darwinian orthodoxy with such an unholy zealousness, is just that it gives them access to power. It’s as simple as that: power over education, power over political decisions, power over funding, and power over the media.


From anything we have seen, that is true. Only a few pious fanatics  actually believe in the shell game. That would be like working for the Mob at the casino, and believing that the house is honest."

Well, the jig is up.  She's got us.  Pope Darwin wrote a huge book of lies (the same lies that Wallace told us, although he's ok because ... well, for some reason) and the whole of science has been exploiting that big lie ever since in order to get political power, power over education, power over funding and power over the media.

It was just amazing how the world rolled over and played dead and gave all that power to those tenured bores.  

Thank God we have people like Dense to explain this to us.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,07:52   

Quote (Febble @ July 16 2012,06:02)
This must be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen at UD.

It's a kind of filo pastry of stupidity.

The competition is pretty fierce.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,08:45   

Quote (BillB @ July 15 2012,04:33)
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 15 2012,04:09)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 14 2012,17:03)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 12 2012,15:43)
Gordon Mullings gets asked for specifics, shits the bed:

   
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F/N: I see an attempt to draw us out on a further tangent regarding triceratops and kin. I will simply say, what is the vertical transformational significance of variations beyond say those of the deer family or say the pattern of diversity we may see across mastodons and elephants, or the Finches of the Galapagos? Again, where is the lead up to the general body plan, and the lead out to a farther along one, climbing up a branch to an alleged “higher” life form? I trust this makes the pivotal issue sufficiently plain, and why I see no point in further entertaining distractors maintained even after I took a fair amount of time to already address and correct them. After a couple of rounds like that, it becomes evident that side-tracking was the rhetorical object, not clarity.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-427720

And he's run off. Coward.

And he back

Hi Gordo! *waves*

It's frankly pathetic how you wont give your definition. You accuse others of everything, but in the cold light of day you're a coward, unable to give the definition. I imagine the Scottish Mullings would be very embarrassed by you - I suggest you change your motto from bydand to *bwaka!*, the sound of retreating poultry.

Just wait, I can feel it growing in the air ...

Semi quasi psuedo transitional quarter semi final-final body plan.
Someone should write a book - a comedyof errors

And KFC (Kiros Focus Chicken) is still getting spanked in that thread. Still no definition form him...

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
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