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Assassinator Posts: 479 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2007,11:15    English is my second language, no one is perfect. Anyway, the English written Bible isn't the original Bible, it's not the language from the so-called "divine inspired" writers. Quote 1,000 years = 365,000,000 years (one day) And what about a Martian day then? Or a Plutonian day?

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2007,11:58    Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 02 2007,11:15) English is my second language, no one is perfect. Anyway, the English written Bible isn't the original Bible, it's not the language from the so-called "divine inspired" writers. Quote 1,000 years = 365,000,000 years (one day) And what about a Martian day then? Or a Plutonian day? Assassinator, every dog has his day, even Pluto. Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Assassinator Posts: 479 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2007,17:52    Europian day then? Mercurian day? Or a day at Gliese 581 c perhaps?

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2007,18:17    Why not just earth day?  That's closer to home.  I'm not in to astrology. Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2007,18:32    Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 01 2007,20:21) Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. "the number of a man and his number" Jesus + 9 = wisdom (83) Jesus x 9 = 666 12 + 12 + 12 = 666 Check out a roulette table. Zero http://search.msn.com/images....ble.jpg -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2007,07:39    1Ki 6:2  And the house which king Solomon built for the LORD, the length thereof [was] threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof twenty [cubits], and the height thereof thirty cubits. 60 x 20 x 30 = 36,000 cubits 36,000 divided by Jesus (74) = 486.486486486 to infinity AZ + 1 (ace) = 486 (360 + 126) or (A through Z) + 135 (9 +126) Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2007,07:53    Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 02 2007,19:17) I'm not in to astrology. I find that bit interesting.  Why not, Zero? It's not really any different than what you do here. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2007,08:07    Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 03 2007,07:53) Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 02 2007,19:17) I'm not in to astrology. I find that bit interesting.  Why not, Zero? It's not really any different than what you do here. Lou, life is not about what one sees through a microscope or telescope. It's about family and home, here and now. Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2007,08:19    Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 03 2007,09:07) Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 03 2007,07:53)   Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 02 2007,19:17) I'm not in to astrology. I find that bit interesting.  Why not, Zero? It's not really any different than what you do here. Lou, life is not about what one sees through a microscope or telescope. It's about family and home, here and now. Zero Ok, a noble sentiment and I think most folks can reasonably agree to that for the most part, but I'm not sure how that answers my question, nor am I sure what microscopes and telescopes have to do with astrology as I've never heard of an astrologer using either. (Are you perhaps mixing up astrology with astronomy?) What is it about what you do that you find so much more fascinating or useful than astrology? -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Assassinator Posts: 479 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2007,12:33    Quote Why not just earth day?  That's closer to home.  I'm not in to astrology. Because it's far from the only planet. Besides, even if you want to use an earthren day, do you want a day from 5 billion years ago? Or now? Or maybe just 500 million? Anyway, you keep posting those mathy thingies, but still they don't make sense. It's simply not math, again you're seeing things that aren't there just as in the movie 23.

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2007,15:08    Lou: (Are you perhaps mixing up astrology with astronomy?) What is it about what you do that you find so much more fascinating or useful than astrology? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lou, astrology believes the alinement of the heavens determines ones fate.  To do this, one has to observe them.  That’s my point. Remember my post back a couple of pages ago, where I said, “    The worse thing God ever saw was 25 men leaning against the temple wall worshiping the sun.”? That reminds me of astrology. What fascinates me about the way I seek answers?  I like to find pieces of the puzzle that fit. ---------------------------------------------- Assassinator: "Anyway, you keep posting those mathy thingies, but still they don't make sense." ------------------------------ Sorry Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Assassinator Posts: 479 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2007,15:42    Quote What fascinates me about the way I seek answers?  I like to find pieces of the puzzle that fit. You've first made yourself a puzzle, and then went searching for the pieces. Seek and though shalt find. Quote Sorry No need to apologise, but I'll ask again: why aren't you just seeing what you want to see?

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2007,16:50    Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 03 2007,15:42)   Quote What fascinates me about the way I seek answers?  I like to find pieces of the puzzle that fit. You've first made yourself a puzzle, and then went searching for the pieces. Seek and though shalt find.   Quote Sorry No need to apologise, but I'll ask again: why aren't you just seeing what you want to see? Assassinator, I didn't make the puzzle.  God did. He said he is the beginning and end...The A and Z. I'm looking for B through Y. O is a good starting point. When the  disciples asked Jesus to teach them to pray, he began with 'Our'...like 'O you are'...father. BTW, 'OUR' has the same numerical value as love (54).  'Care' is only one half of love (27), but it is a good direction. Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Steverino Posts: 411 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2007,17:30    Then one would think, given your concept, God, Lord and King should all equal. God = 22 King = 41 Lord = 49 What gives???? -------------- - Born right the first time. - Asking questions is NOT the same as providing answers. - It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys show up!

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2007,21:20    Steve, if you had checked back through this thread's 14 pages, you would have found most of this: God = 1260 (alpha, omega & nothing ) God = 704 (beginning, end & nothing) God = 54 (first, last,& nothing) (Ass + 15) Zec 9:9 God = 26 ( a through z ) also G + o + d (7 + 15 + 4) God = U 12 (2112) divided by 3 God = 11 hidden in 3 measures (G , O , & D ) (111) (Az + fold) Zec 9:9 God = Eve x 22 God = Eve + 22 God = 10 % of heaven sevenfold God = seven 360's folded God = the total of the first 12 #s divided by 3 (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12 divided by 3) God = GD + O (nothing in me) Jesus = 74 (GD) Messiah = 74 Gospel = 74 signet = 74 Beauty=74 point = 74 between = 74 finished = 74 one fold = 74/2 (37) (cg) Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder:  (See Rev. 12:5) and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isa 54:5 For thy Maker [is] thine husband; the LORD of hosts [is] his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this [is] his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. Rev 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth [it]. king  = 41 The word 'king' says, "11 in 7" Turn 41 up side down Lord (49) = sign ( God + I Am) (sg + in) sign = that (49) like in  I AM  THAT  I AM Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Steverino Posts: 411 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,06:25    I didn't ask for side-stepping, I asked why the magic does not work as it should for: God = 22 King = 41 Lord = 49 -------------- - Born right the first time. - Asking questions is NOT the same as providing answers. - It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys show up!

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,07:46    Quote (Steverino @ Dec. 04 2007,06:25) I didn't ask for side-stepping, I asked why the magic does not work as it should for: God = 22 King = 41 Lord = 49 Steve, if you consider my answer 'side- stepping', so be it. Should all these names have the same numerical value? Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. How about Dad, Mom, and Tot?  The family of God. Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Steverino Posts: 411 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,08:44    It's obvious that you can make phrases to fit your desired outcome.  It's not magic, mystery or special coincidence it's manipulation. There is no mystery, wonderment, signs of God or design since you plug in words until you reach your desired outcome. Also, as pointed out by someone else, the original language of the Bible was Hebrew.  If this were really something worth value, the word of God would present the same patterns in all languages.  He is after all, God. Go back to crossword puzzles…they keep you sharp. -------------- - Born right the first time. - Asking questions is NOT the same as providing answers. - It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys show up!

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,09:11    Quote (Steverino @ Dec. 04 2007,09:44) Also, as pointed out by someone else, the original language of the Bible was Hebrew.  If this were really something worth value, the word of God would present the same patterns in all languages.  He is after all, God. Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, to be a bit more precise about it and further the point. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Assassinator Posts: 479 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,14:36    Thanks for the correction Lou. Anyway, can you explain that to us hero, what I and Steve sad.

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,20:53    One size does not fit all: Eze 43:4 And the glory of the LORD came into the house by the way of the gate whose prospect [is] toward the east. Eze 44:1 ¶ Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it [was] shut. Eze 44:2  Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut. Eze 44:3  [It is] for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of [that] gate, and shall go out by the way of the same. Eze 46:9 ¶ But when the people of the land shall come before the LORD in the solemn feasts, he that entereth in by the way of the north gate to worship shall go out by the way of the south gate; and he that entereth by the way of the south gate shall go forth by the way of the north gate: he shall not return by the way of the gate whereby he came in, but shall go forth over against it. Eze 46:12 ¶ Now when the prince shall prepare a voluntary burnt offering or peace offerings voluntarily unto the LORD, [one] shall then open him the gate that looketh toward the east, and he shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, as he did on the sabbath day: then he shall go forth; and after his going forth [one] shall shut the gate. Edit/add: Doors I thought to myself," Jesus said he is the door. Doors serve two purposes. They let people in and they keep people out." I glanced down at the Reader's Digest that "happened" to be laying in front of me. On the cover was a story title: "Immagration now. Who To Let In and Who To Keep Out" -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,20:57    Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 04 2007,15:36) Thanks for the correction Lou. Less a correction than an augmentation, but you're welcome anyway. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Steverino Posts: 411 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,22:05    Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 04 2007,20:53) One size does not fit all: Eze 43:4 And the glory of the LORD came into the house by the way of the gate whose prospect [is] toward the east. Eze 44:1 ¶ Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it [was] shut. Eze 44:2  Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut. Eze 44:3  [It is] for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of [that] gate, and shall go out by the way of the same. Eze 46:9 ¶ But when the people of the land shall come before the LORD in the solemn feasts, he that entereth in by the way of the north gate to worship shall go out by the way of the south gate; and he that entereth by the way of the south gate shall go forth by the way of the north gate: he shall not return by the way of the gate whereby he came in, but shall go forth over against it. Eze 46:12 ¶ Now when the prince shall prepare a voluntary burnt offering or peace offerings voluntarily unto the LORD, [one] shall then open him the gate that looketh toward the east, and he shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, as he did on the sabbath day: then he shall go forth; and after his going forth [one] shall shut the gate. Edit/add: Doors I thought to myself," Jesus said he is the door. Doors serve two purposes. They let people in and they keep people out." I glanced down at the Reader's Digest that "happened" to be laying in front of me. On the cover was a story title: "Immagration now. Who To Let In and Who To Keep Out" No, apparently, your "design" concept only works in light of your imagination or your desire to make it work and mean something. Either way, you got whole lot of nothing. But, feel free to babble on. -------------- - Born right the first time. - Asking questions is NOT the same as providing answers. - It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys show up!

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,04:54    Steve: "Either way, you got whole lot of nothing. But, feel free to babble on." ------------------------------------------------------------- Something from nothing: Jesus (GD, first & last, beginning & end) + a 'whole lot of nothing' = GOD Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Steverino Posts: 411 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,06:43    As stated above, your "design" concept only works in light of your imagination or your desire to make it work and mean something. Please seek help. -------------- - Born right the first time. - Asking questions is NOT the same as providing answers. - It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys show up!

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,07:02    Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 05 2007,05:54) Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. I'm so happy you quoted that exact text, Zero. Do you realize the significance of the words "Alpha and Omega" in that sentence, Zero? Why those two words, specifically? Let me help you out.  That passage was written in Greek.  Alpha and Omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet.  The Greek alphabet does not contain the same number of letters as the English alphabet, nor are they in the same order as the English alphabet, nor are they all directly homologous to letters in the English alphabet. The upshot of that is that if there were any numerological significance hidden as a letter replacement cypher within the pages of that book, it's a good bet that it would be found in the Greek text, and would lose its significance when translated into English word by word, let alone translated into English in a way that would make sense to an English reader. (H.T. to my Baptist High School, Blow Job U., and the United States Army JFK Special Warfare School.) -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,14:21    Lou: "Do you realize the significance of the words "Alpha and Omega" in that sentence, Zero?" ---------------------------------------- Yes Lou, it means 'beginning and end' or 'first and last'. -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Assassinator Posts: 479 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,16:07    You're ignoring the language question, I'm still eager to hear.

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,19:13    Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 06 2007,16:07) You're ignoring the language question, I'm still eager to hear. Assassinator, there is no 'language question'. I live in America and speak English.  If God can't handle that, I'm in a heap of trouble. Mar 12:27  He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,19:22    -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

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