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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,10:10   

ID's messy divorce with reality continues. Fortunately at the pillow fort known as "Uncommon Descent" Angels still lovingly attach fracterial blagellas, one by one - and Dembski is someone.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,10:11   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 12 2008,15:58)
The consensus is that Finch is Dembski's alter-ego.

{sound of Louis falling over in shock}

This is unbelievable levels of delusion.

Classing yourself as a peer with Einstein, who was a "lazy dog" and Foreign, IIRC, is one thing, but to class oneself as an equal to Paul Dirac, who was English, is quite another. The man must be out of his tiny Colonial mind.

;-)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,10:44   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 12 2008,09:04)
Quote (olegt @ Feb. 12 2008,09:47)
Not content with being a mere Isaac Newton of information theory, Bill Dembski photoshops himself onto the picture of the 1927 Solvay Congress alongside Einstein, Bohr, Planck and the like.  No farting noises this time.


The wish-fulfillment in this pic is both touching and pathetic. Mostly pathetic.

Yes, it's sad that people like Einstein and Bohr had to manipulate a photo so they could appear alongside such scientific greats.

Incidentally, Bohr had such difficulty getting funding, he frequently had to turn to beer.

Bob

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,10:54   

Quote (olegt @ Feb. 12 2008,09:47)
Not content with being a mere Isaac Newton of information theory, Bill Dembski photoshops himself onto the picture of the 1927 Solvay Congress alongside Einstein, Bohr, Planck and the like.  No farting noises this time.



Inspired by oleg,



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Maya



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,11:07   

Leaving aside J-Dog's low hanging humor center, isn't this a copyright violation?  Or is the picture in the public domain?

  
Mister DNA



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,11:10   

Quote (Maya @ Feb. 12 2008,11:07)
Leaving aside J-Dog's low hanging humor center, isn't this a copyright violation?  Or is the picture in the public domain?

Like much of William Dembski's output, I think this would fall under the category of "parody" and thus be fair use.

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olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,11:16   

Quote (Maya @ Feb. 12 2008,11:07)
Leaving aside J-Dog's low hanging humor center, isn't this a copyright violation?  Or is the picture in the public domain?

It is in public domain.  See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Solvay_conference_1927.jpg

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,11:18   

Quote (Mister DNA @ Feb. 12 2008,11:10)
Quote (Maya @ Feb. 12 2008,11:07)
Leaving aside J-Dog's low hanging humor center, isn't this a copyright violation?  Or is the picture in the public domain?

Like much of William Dembski's output, I think this would fall under the category of "parody" and thus be fair use.

Does the definition of parody include grossly insulting the real scientists in the original picture?  If any of those were my relatives, I would be irked.  Actually, I am irked!

  
BopDiddy



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,11:31   

Quote (olegt @ Feb. 12 2008,08:47)
Not content with being a mere Isaac Newton of information theory, Bill Dembski photoshops himself onto the picture of the 1927 Solvay Congress alongside Einstein, Bohr, Planck and the like.

Now, now.  We don't know categorically that Dembski was involved in the creation of that parody.

We're the ones claiming that he was involved in its creation, so it's up to us to provide evidence of his involvement.  

Anyone here know any shitty math to help with this proof?

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,11:32   

Quote (Mister DNA @ Feb. 12 2008,11:10)
Quote (Maya @ Feb. 12 2008,11:07)
Leaving aside J-Dog's low hanging humor center, isn't this a copyright violation?  Or is the picture in the public domain?

Like much of William Dembski's output, I think this would fall under the category of "parody" and thus be fair use.

But what about the P-A-R-O-D-Y category?

:p

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,11:42   

By request, a few additions:



BTW: Who's head did they shop in over Carver's?  They didn't re-label him.

ETAA: or did they shop in Carver's to begin with?  I guess I'll have to find the original.

Edited by Lou FCD on Feb. 12 2008,12:51

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Mister DNA



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,11:53   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2008,11:32)
Quote (Mister DNA @ Feb. 12 2008,11:10)
 
Quote (Maya @ Feb. 12 2008,11:07)
Leaving aside J-Dog's low hanging humor center, isn't this a copyright violation?  Or is the picture in the public domain?

Like much of William Dembski's output, I think this would fall under the category of "parody" and thus be fair use.

But what about the P-A-R-O-D-Y category?

:p

I don't know if the courts have yet ruled on Fair Use and P-A-R-O-D-Y or street theater.

I wonder if photoshopped images of praying Marines are automatically in the public domain...

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,11:59   

Found the original.

Ok, it was taken in 1927, and the wikipedia page they took it from says it's in the public domain because it's over 70 years old.

ETA:



A. Piccard, E. Henriot, P. Ehrenfest, Ed. Herzen, Th. De Donder, E. Schrödinger, J.E. Verschaffelt, W. Pauli, W. Heisenberg, R.H. Fowler, L. Brillouin,

P. Debye, M. Knudsen, W.L. Bragg, H.A. Kramers, P.A.M. Dirac, A.H. Compton, L. de Broglie, M. Born, N. Bohr,

I. Langmuir, M. Planck, Mme. Curie, H.A. Lorentz, A. Einstein, P. Langevin, Ch. E. Guye, C.T.R. Wilson, O.W. Richardson

Fifth conference participants, 1927. Institut International de Physique Solvay.

Edited by Lou FCD on Feb. 12 2008,13:02

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tacitus



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,12:05   

And Dave Scot further embellishes tales of his legendary career at Dell by explaining why he was denied the chance to lead the company into the Promised Land:

 
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I became a senior engineer at Dell Computer with no degree at all and had incentive compensation on the order of major league basketball players. However, I hit a glass ceiling. If I’d an MBA I could have gone up to senior vice president and those guys got incentive pay on the order of Michael Jordan.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-170963

Really? Poor wittle Davy Wavy would have made it to Senior VP at Dell if he hadn't been so cruelly discriminated against by those evil bastard business executives flaunting their fancy-wancy MBAs in his face.  Hint: while it helps, I don't know of any high-tech company that requires you to have an MBA before you can join the ranks of senior management.

In any case, he could have just gone out gotten an MBA. It would have been a piece of cake for a super-genius like Dave.  And if he was the monster engineer he claims he was then Dell would have almost certainly given him permission to take the classes part-time.  I've known two or three dozen engineers at IBM who've done this, and Dell is no different.  His griping about a "glass ceiling" is patently ridiculous.

And that NBA-quality "incentive compensation"?  The same reason he claims to be a "self-made millionaire".  Dell stock options went through the roof in the 90s when he was lucky enough to be working there.  "Dellionaires" were ten-a-penny at the time as just about everyone in the company was reaping huge profits from the soaring stock price.  I know a couple of senior managers who work at Dell today, and their incentive compensation is not even close to NHL-levels these days, but closer to zero than anything else.

  
Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,12:23   

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His griping about a "glass ceiling" is patently ridiculous.

Hey!  Stop calling my friend Davey's patents ridiculous.

Oooh, I'll have you.  I'm warning you, if you do that again I'll report you to Matron.  Then you'll be sorry.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,13:05   



Ok, I think I'm done with this now.

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Mister DNA



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,13:39   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 12 2008,13:05)


Ok, I think I'm done with this now.

It's beginning to look like this:


Dr. Demsbki's ID Farty Noise Band

It was years ago in West P.A.,
That the Judge ruled I-Design inane
But no appeal will the DI file
Casey Luskin’s still in denial.
So may I introduce to you
Some guys who come from Waterloo,
Dr. Dembski's ID Fart-Noise Band.

We're Dr. Dembski's ID Fart-Noise Band,
We hope you will enjoy the show,
We're Dr. Dembski's ID Fart Noise Band,
If you don't, DaveScot will make you go.
Dr. Dembski's ID, Dr. Dembski's ID,
Dr. Dembski's ID Fart-Noise Band.

It's wonderful to be here,
It's certainly a thrill.
But I'm not about to match your
Pathetic level of detail,
Pathetic level of...

I didn't really want to testify,
'cause you know I would have had to lie,
But you really knew that all along,
Because everything I do is wrong.
So let me introduce to you
The kings of all street theater
Dr. Dembski's ID Fart-Noise Band.

ETA: co-writing credit goes to J-Dog
(but send the royalty checks to me... I'll make sure he gets his share)

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Leftfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,13:50   

Mapou at comment 6 in the "Not a Darwinist? thread

 
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Sorry, I am a Christian but I have to disagree with the cheek-turning philosophy. God did not create the human spirit. Got [sic] can only create physical matter. Spirit can neither be created not destroyed. A-holes (non-believers) are not part of the body of Christ.



Can somebody point me to the Bible verse regarding a-holes?

And God can only create matter? Hence the law of  conservation of spirit?

And if the a-hole is not part of the body of Christ, can He have been truly human?  

Has to be a sockpuppet!!one!!

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olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,13:59   

BopDiddy,

There is some digital evidence that ties Galapagos Finch to Dembski and Marks.  I'll comment on that later.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,14:03   

Quote (olegt @ Feb. 12 2008,13:59)
BopDiddy,

There is some digital evidence that ties Galapagos Finch to Dembski and Marks.  I'll comment on that later.

DID YOU USE TEH EF?

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,14:06   

Quote (Mister DNA @ Feb. 12 2008,13:39)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 12 2008,13:05)


Ok, I think I'm done with this now.

It's beginning to look like this:


Dr. Demsbki's ID Farty Noise Band

It was two years ago today,
Judge Jones said ID was inane
But no appeal will the DI file
Because Casey Luskin is still in denial.
So may I introduce to you
Some guys who come from Waterloo,
Dr. Demsbki's ID Farty Noise Band.
We're Dr. Demsbki's ID Farty Noise Band,
We hope you will enjoy the show,
We're Dr. Demsbki's ID Farty Noise Band,
If you don't, DaveScot will make you go.
Dr. Demsbki's ID, Dr. Demsbki's ID,
Dr. Demsbki's ID Farty Noise Band.
It's wonderful to be here,
It's certainly a thrill.
But I'm not about to match your
Pathetic level of detail,
Pathetic level of...
I didn't really want to testify,
'cause I probably would have had to lie,
But you probably knew that all along,
Because everything I do is wrong.
So let me introduce to you
The kings of street theater
Dr. Demsbki's ID Farty Noise Band.

PANTS.WILL.NEVER.DRY.

:angry:

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,14:44   

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-171439

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PannenbergOmega

02/12/2008

2:16 pm
I hope that all the crap Dr. Dembski and others go through, will eventually be vindicated. That their work will unleash a cultural and scientific renaissance and that
future generations will look at these men as heroes.

Is that too much to ask?


Which one of you lot wrote this?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,15:01   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2008,14:44)
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-171439

 
Quote
3

PannenbergOmega

02/12/2008

2:16 pm
I hope that all the crap Dr. Dembski and others go through, will eventually be vindicated. That their work will unleash a cultural and scientific renaissance and that
future generations will look at these men as heroes.

Is that too much to ask?


Which one of you lot wrote this?

My EF has told me that the Anagram  of PannenbergOmega

is "Got A Gerbil In My Pants" .

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,15:53   

Quote (J-Dog @ Feb. 12 2008,15:01)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2008,14:44)
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-171439

 
Quote
3

PannenbergOmega

02/12/2008

2:16 pm
I hope that all the crap Dr. Dembski and others go through, will eventually be vindicated. That their work will unleash a cultural and scientific renaissance and that
future generations will look at these men as heroes.

Is that too much to ask?


Which one of you lot wrote this?

My EF has told me that the Anagram  of PannenbergOmega

is "Got A Gerbil In My Pants" .

Stop it. You'll make FtK hot and bothered.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,16:13   

New book adevertised at UD:

http://www.beyondcreationscience.com/

They're not even pretending any more. It's all about the advertising revenue & book sales.

All creation science so far!!!

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,17:00   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2008,16:13)
New book adevertised at UD:

http://www.beyondcreationscience.com/

They're not even pretending any more. It's all about the advertising revenue & book sales.

All creation science so far!!!

Hmmm... You can advertise at UD automagically. Although that book says a frikkin' huge amount about the market for ID.

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Advocatus Diaboli



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,17:07   

Shouldn't this portrait of brainpower be edited, just a tad?



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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,17:07   

Quote (PTET @ Feb. 12 2008,17:00)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2008,16:13)
New book adevertised at UD:

http://www.beyondcreationscience.com/

They're not even pretending any more. It's all about the advertising revenue & book sales.

All creation science so far!!!

Hmmm... You can advertise at UD automagically. Although that book says a frikkin' huge amount about the market for ID.

We should advertise AtBC, or CBEB, or BPSDB

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,17:11   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2008,17:07)
Quote (PTET @ Feb. 12 2008,17:00)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2008,16:13)
New book adevertised at UD:

http://www.beyondcreationscience.com/

They're not even pretending any more. It's all about the advertising revenue & book sales.

All creation science so far!!!

Hmmm... You can advertise at UD automagically. Although that book says a frikkin' huge amount about the market for ID.

We should advertise AtBC, or CBEB, or BPSDB

GMTA, they say.

Sure, it would be putting a few bucks in WAD's pockets, but the screen caps alone would be worth it.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,17:12   

http://www.gmta.org/

Guh Guh Guh Cleatus!

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