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Cubist



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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,04:47   

TWT, the font they used for the logo is Arial Regular, with 89% horizontal scaling. Like so:


  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,04:59   

[BLUSH]  I just re-read k.e..'s travel report.  Wherever I wrote "marble", please substitute "golf ball".  Sorry. [/BLUSH]

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,05:49   

Quote (CeilingCat @ July 25 2012,04:59)
[BLUSH]  I just re-read k.e..'s travel report.  Wherever I wrote "marble", please substitute "golf ball".  Sorry. [/BLUSH]

That was an error? I thought you were referring to Gordo's non-golfballs.

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CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,05:53   

No, I would have referred to "gnat's eggs" if I meant that.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,05:59   

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TWT, the font they used for the logo is Arial Regular, with 89% horizontal scaling. Like so:


Clearly the job of a frigging amateur.

The first rule of a designer re use of fonts is "Never use Arial; use Helvetica instead".

The second rule is "Never combine all caps antiqua with all caps humanist or grotesque", like they did with Discovery Institute and Human Exceptionalism.

The third rule is "Never squeeze a font more than 1%. Buy a condensed font instead."

Another lay-out rule is "Don't overcrowd. Less is better."

Sheesh.

Edit: What do those blobs of slime in the upper right represent - Sal Cordova writing guest posts?

Edited by Kattarina98 on July 25 2012,06:02

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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,06:30   

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Quote (The whole truth @ July 25 2012,03:49)
 
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A much more accurate header:


Mouse stabbing bastards!

Yeah, and notice the red line from the mouse going flat. Mouse murderers!

Humans uber alles!

The orange bot is obviously exceptional. He's orange. With a red tie.



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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,06:32   

"What do those blobs of slime in the upper right represent - Sal Cordova writing guest posts? "

Or maybe gordo's spittle?

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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,06:35   

Quote (Cubist @ July 25 2012,02:47)
TWT, the font they used for the logo is Arial Regular, with 89% horizontal scaling. Like so:


Picky picky. :)

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But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,06:53   

Does anybody else think of the "I, Robot" movie when they see the blue bots?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,07:19   

The robots in that film were cute. The bots in this banner are creepy.

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Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,07:25   

Gordo has an apoplectic fit because Paul McBride has taken him seriously and offered to answer his questions one at a time.  
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You can easily observe the distractive atmosphere poisoning continuing, from both PM and BT. I need to comment on it briefly before following up on substance, as this is the red flag that tells us what is at stake for our civilisation in these debates.
 
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And, we had better be willing to lift our gaze from the next clump of grass in front of our noses to see what is coming at us from a distance and take warning.
 
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Or, sooner or later, somebody is going to have us on the table as lamb chops for lunch.
 
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As to recognising, with remorse, that they have gone too far and walking it back, apologising and making amends for rudeness, not a chance.
 
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Think about what the most ruthless members of such factions would do if they controlled real levers of power. I trust you can hear the moans of 100 million ghosts from the sad history of the past century on that subject.

And then Gordo adds one more topic he wants P. McBride to discuss - NOT: OoL.

On with the rant.  
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We refuse to bow to the Magisterium duly dressed in the holy lab coat and insist on thinking for ourselves and having the right to our own views, provided we have reasonable empirical warrant therefor.
 
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And, we refuse to be intimidated by boorish misconduct or abusive nihilistic misbehaviour. Indeed, we need to make it very clear to such that hey will not getaway with such behaviour, and that we see through the tactics to see the intellectual and moral bankruptcy that lie behind the brazen front.


Lately, Gordo's sanity seems to be rapidly deteriorating. Did you notice how he has started to insert folksy jargon into his sermons? His posts are increasingly incoherent, rants are more frequent, and his fury is triggered by the most polite disagreement, e.g. P. McBride.

Unless, of course, this fury is fake, just to prepare the ground for a bannination.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,07:55   

It seems that Gordo simply cannot understand why people are not convinced when he directs dissenters to read his "IOSE" webpages.
When they return, unconvinced, the factor at fault is not Gordo's IOSE, it's that the person is wilfully dishonest as by definition if they were honest they would have been convinced by his IOSE.
So it's win/win for Gordo. At least in the tiny tiny world of UD/ID.

Perhaps somebody could light the blue touchpaper and ask him what influence he had on resolving the "constitutional crises" he's now stopped mentioning?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,08:39   

Gordon Mullins says rather more then I suspect he might have wanted to:
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it hardly matters if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand by default.

Got you Gordo.
it hardly matters if there are even critical flaws in Behe's work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand by default.
it hardly matters if there are even critical flaws in Dembski's work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand by default.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,08:39   

Quote (CeilingCat @ July 25 2012,04:59)
[BLUSH]  I just re-read k.e..'s travel report.  Wherever I wrote "marble", please substitute "golf ball".  Sorry. [/BLUSH]

Thanks Ceiling. I'm slowly becoming an proficient in international derogatory terminology...

...oh...and...um...uuuuggghhh!




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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,08:41   

Quote (CeilingCat @ July 25 2012,06:53)
Does anybody else think of the "I, Robot" movie when they see the blue bots?

Yep...first thing that came to mind.

The gold one is one of the "bad" robots...

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we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo

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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,09:30   

Hi Cubist,

when I criticised the banner and called it the job of an amateur, I meant the original designer, not you.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,09:37   

Heh heh.

Gordo's a funny little goof, inny?

I wonder why he thinks anyone, anywhere, should ever take him seriously.

Funny, funny Gordo.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,09:40   

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It looks like the Discovery Institute is branching out.  Wesley J. Smith has a new blurb for his column at First Things:      
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Wesley J. Smith is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute’s Center on Human Exceptionalism, and consults for the Patients Rights Council and the Center for Bioethics and Culture.

Mr. Smith wishes us all to know that he's a very exceptional human and don't you forget it!

The Center on Human Exceptionalism web page.

Whoever designed the header is exceptionally untalented:


The Blue Man Group guys have sure gone downhill... :O

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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,10:39   

Gordo:
 
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I will, DV, be back later, I have a mission- critical issue to help a client address and have already taken more time than I should from it. KF

Link
 
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Okay, client ready now.

Link
 
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OOPS. PARDON A CORRECTIVE DOUBLE

Matron!

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,10:41   

Do you like my new signature Gordo?
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if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand

It's a keeper.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,10:49   

From the latest 'think tank'....

   
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These assaults on religious practice are becoming increasingly commonplace.

For example, a German trial judge recently outlawed the circumcision of children on the basis that the “fundamental right of the child to bodily integrity outweighed the fundamental rights of the parents”, to carry out their religious beliefs.

Circumcision is controversial today, but redefining the rite into “mutilation” or “child abuse” is blatant secular imperialism. For millennia, faith adherents have believed that circumcision is done for boys (rather than to them). Indeed, prohibiting the rite deprives male children of these faiths a religious benefit to which they are entitled while dispossessing them of a core aspect of their personal identity.


Allowing a man chop a piece off their son's penis = "a religious benefit to which they (the boys) are entitled"

Stopping a man from chopping a piece off their son's penis = "blatant secular imperialism"

Idiots.

Edited by Woodbine on July 25 2012,16:52

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,11:05   

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Gordon Mullins says rather more then I suspect he might have wanted to:
   
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it hardly matters if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand by default.

Got you Gordo.
it hardly matters if there are even critical flaws in Behe's work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand by default.
it hardly matters if there are even critical flaws in Dembski's work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand by default.

 
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IP, I have to go now. In recent days, PM’s noview has been seriously addressed, especially at ENV, with several related threads at UD. This is just one of them. Remember, “every tub must stand on its own bottom,” and if the evo mat narrative of OOL and OO body plans including our own cannot do that, it hardly matters if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand by default. I will, DV, be back later, I have a mission- critical issue to help a client address and have already taken more time than I should from it. KF




Edited to make the image a bit smallerer !

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Joe: Most criticisims of ID stem from ignorance and jealousy.
Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.
Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,11:45   

Saved for posterity so it can not be disapparated.



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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,12:07   

Quote (Freddie @ July 25 2012,12:05)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ July 25 2012,08:39)
Gordon Mullins says rather more then I suspect he might have wanted to:
     
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it hardly matters if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand by default.

Got you Gordo.
it hardly matters if there are even critical flaws in Behe's work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand by default.
it hardly matters if there are even critical flaws in Dembski's work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand by default.

   
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IP, I have to go now. In recent days, PM’s noview has been seriously addressed, especially at ENV, with several related threads at UD. This is just one of them. Remember, “every tub must stand on its own bottom,” and if the evo mat narrative of OOL and OO body plans including our own cannot do that, it hardly matters if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand by default. I will, DV, be back later, I have a mission- critical issue to help a client address and have already taken more time than I should from it. KF




Edited to make the image a bit smallerer !

I don't think Gordon Elliott "Magenta" Mullings would get $50-60 for the client service provided.

But I suspect that GEM of BYDANDI could blow a golf ball through a garden hose, based on the pressure of verbal spewage. So it stands to reason that the counterstroke as he inhales must also be impressive, most impressive.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,12:20   

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Hi Cubist,

when I criticised the banner and called it the job of an amateur, I meant the original designer, not you.

[nods] Understood. Frankly, I thought TWT's font-choice for the logo, Myriad, was better than Arial; but since Arial was the logo-font in the original image… [shrug]
Curiously, Myriad is the font that was used for the clickable links along the bottom-right of the image. Dunno why they went with Arial for the logo. It is a mystery.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,12:23   

If there is a god after all, he'll make sure Gordo reads this thread.

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Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,12:26   

Quote (Cubist @ July 25 2012,12:20)
Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 25 2012,09:30)
Hi Cubist,

when I criticised the banner and called it the job of an amateur, I meant the original designer, not you.

[nods] Understood. Frankly, I thought TWT's font-choice for the logo, Myriad, was better than Arial; but since Arial was the logo-font in the original image… [shrug]
Curiously, Myriad is the font that was used for the clickable links along the bottom-right of the image. Dunno why they went with Arial for the logo. It is a mystery.

Myriad is cool. At first it looked bland, but it grew on me. And Arial isn't bad either; it's a question of ethics. I understand that font designers hate it because it's a Helvetica rip-off.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,12:31   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 25 2012,11:45)
Saved for posterity so it can not be disapparated.


I can get the "Brokeback Monserrat" reference, but why do I hear banjos instead of guitars?

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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,13:32   

PaV
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I was talking about the malarial parasite, not Behe’s limit on evolution—which is a generous lean towards evolution. I’ve had correspondence with him, and he is more generous than I am when it comes to conceding what evolution can do (which, of course, is not much).

Somebody better let the world know what PaV "concedes" evolution can do! So far I don't believe it's paid any attention at all...

Hubris King.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2012,14:20   

Good to know that even the amateur scientists at UD can rip apart Behe's math and find it defective. The man gets no respect.

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