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carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2007,15:02    Quote (Steverino @ Nov. 27 2007,08:56) I think you are seeing things that are not there. Well, unless you find an error in his math, I would submit that he is finding something that is there.  I acknowledge that it is quite possible that the patterns Zero finds are a result of a methodology that builds them to be there (ironically, making Zero something like the only intelligent design advocate actually engaged in an active research project). But the patterns are there, whether forced or found. I would similarly answer the question regarding whether these patterns are meaningful or not.  They clearly have meaning to Zero.  And since no one seems to have taken the time, myself included, to understand how he goes about doing what he does, it might be a bit presumptuous to dismiss it.  Whether anyone wants to understand or Zero wants to share is left to another day. Even if it is just a curious numbers game without any import beyond filling in between Zero's tee times, it surely has a long way to go before it is as annoying as LOLcats. Hey Z, just out of curiousity, were you an actuary during your work days?   EDIT:  Fixed grammar not so good. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Steverino Posts: 411 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2007,16:49    I didn't make myself clear.  His numerology is meaningless and does not prove anything other than patterns exist in the universe. -------------- - Born right the first time. - Asking questions is NOT the same as providing answers. - It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys show up!

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2007,18:34    Quote (Steverino @ Nov. 27 2007,16:49) I didn't make myself clear.  His numerology is meaningless and does not prove anything other than patterns exist in the universe. No, you made yourself clear enough the first time.  I stand by my response. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2007,20:05    Quote (Steverino @ Nov. 27 2007,08:56) I think you are seeing things that are not there. But at least it's in color. -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2007,20:18    Carlsonjok: "Hey Z, just out of curiousity, were you an actuary during your work days?" ------------------------------------- No, I'm a retired carpenter. Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2007,20:24    Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 27 2007,20:18) Carlsonjok: "Hey Z, just out of curiousity, were you an actuary during your work days?" ------------------------------------- No, I'm a retired carpenter. Zero Measure = 2 and Cut = 1?   -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2007,21:54    Once I sawed a board twice and it was still two short. -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2007,23:58    Here is a fascinating study of numbers, done by Vernon Jenkins.  His approach has been from another direction, but worth study. http://homepage.virgin.net/vernon.jenkins/index.htm Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Steverino Posts: 411 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 28 2007,08:12    What a surprise!....More Bible Babble! -------------- - Born right the first time. - Asking questions is NOT the same as providing answers. - It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys show up!

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 28 2007,08:27    Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 27 2007,08:08)   Quote (Steverino @ Nov. 27 2007,06:57) and all this made up number concept proves.....??? Steve, IMO, it is not 'made up'.  It is designed. That's why every living thing is symetrical. Words that just happen to be (in English) symetrical: Eve Dad Pop Tot level I Am that I Am God Jesus God Zero The word ‘designed’ is symmetrical. De/sign/ed “This world will get one sign.” “This world will get no sign.”   Every leaf, every blade of grass, every living thing is symmetrical. Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations. “In the midst” & “on either side” is symmetry, balance.  And the “leaves” also. If symmetry in life is by chance, where's non-symmetry? Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 28 2007,10:09    Jhn 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations. I’m sure some one will challenge my math but here goes: Edit/add: Adding 4 to go = God: One for the money Two for the show Three to make ready And four to go. money + 1 = 73 show + 2 = 67 ready + 3 = 56 go + 4 (d) = 26 (God) 73 + 67 + 56 + 26 = 222 (3 x Jesus) ( the middle 12) 12 + 12 + 12 = 666 twelve [manner of] fruits = 666 The number of  times “the father” is mentioned in the KJV bible = 666 1Ki 10:14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold, (God + 12 = gold) Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. 9 x Jesus = 666 (3 x God) + ( 3 x Jesus ) + (3 AZ minus 12) = 666 Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 28 2007,15:15    Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 28 2007,10:09) Jhn 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations. I’m sure some one will challenge my math but here goes: Edit/add: Adding 4 to go = God: One for the money Two for the show Three to make ready And four to go. money + 1 = 73 show + 2 = 67 ready + 3 = 56 go + 4 (d) = 26 (God) 73 + 67 + 56 + 26 = 222 (3 x Jesus) ( the middle 12) 12 + 12 + 12 = 666 twelve [manner of] fruits = 666 The number of  times “the father” is mentioned in the KJV bible = 666 1Ki 10:14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold, (God + 12 = gold) Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. 9 x Jesus = 666 (3 x God) + ( 3 x Jesus ) + (3 AZ minus 12) = 666 Zero -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2007,21:15    Jhn 15:1  I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Jhn 15:2  Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every [branch] that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Jhn 15:3  Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Jhn 15:4  Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. Jhn 15:5  I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. Zec 11:9  Then said I, I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another. Zec 11:10  And I took my staff, [even] Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people. Zec 11:11  And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it [was] the word of the LORD. Zec 11:12  And I said unto them, If ye think good, give [me] my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty [pieces] of silver. Beauty = 74 Jesus  = 74 Jerusa / lem   74   /  30 GD + 00 = GOOD Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Assassinator Posts: 479 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2007,04:49    Quote Assassinator, the sun and light bulb, IMO, fall into the catagory of 'reality'.  I'm sure we both can name some more. You never remember, day dream, or night dream in color? Edit/ Do you ever remember running a red light or seeing a rainbow? Yea, I do, so what? Do you know how dreaming works? If not, don't say those things about them. Quote GD + 00 = GOOD Even your meaningless "math"  fails. GD+ 00 = GD00 As Steve says, you're seeing things who aren't there. Just watch 23 with Jim Carrey.

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2007,05:47    Jhn 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. 'nothing' in GD (74) = GOD (704) A CD on a HIL (CHILD) can knot.  Be hid. Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2007,07:42    = 5 X 3 X 79,426,374,8720,195 +4 / 0 = "Lou is God and Zero should worship him and bring him free Yuengling and horny Uni co-eds." You've been doing it in the wrong language, Zero. ETA- Crap.  Y'know the Japanese Kanji showed up perfectly fine in the preview window... EATA - There, that's better. Edited by Lou FCD on Nov. 30 2007,08:50 -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2007,08:07    You mistranslated. That should be "LOUIS is god...." Get it right bitches! Louis -------------- Bye.

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2007,08:24    Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,09:07) You mistranslated. That should be "LOUIS is god...." Get it right bitches! Louis That works for me, as we are a biune God with alternate incarnations for each side of the Atlantic and are both thusly named. I'm just a bit more informal, so I get the co-eds who pray with "thee and thou", you get the more formal "you" ones. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2007,09:19    Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 30 2007,14:24) Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,09:07) You mistranslated. That should be "LOUIS is god...." Get it right bitches! Louis That works for me, as we are a biune God with alternate incarnations for each side of the Atlantic and are both thusly named. I'm just a bit more informal, so I get the co-eds who pray with "thee and thou", you get the more formal "you" ones. Dude, other way around on the thee and thou stuff. Oh and biune deity? Nice work. You get America, but I get Europe. Loving those Swedish girls. Oh shit it's Mrs God! Quick! Hide! And don't tell her about those Swedish girls. Louis -------------- Bye.

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2007,09:35    Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,10:19) Dude, other way around on the thee and thou stuff. Actually, thee and thou were the informal, personal, more intimate pronouns at the time they were actually used. Lookie here. I'd expect an Englishman to have a handle on such things as proper English.   Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,10:19) Oh and biune deity? Nice work. Thanks, I was divinely inspired.  By ourself.   Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,10:19) You get America, but I get Europe. Loving those Swedish girls. OK, but I propose the occasional swap for variety.  I'm willing to annually loan you a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader in trade for a pair of Celtic Redheads.  If you've got one with waist length, curly, bright red hair and a nice figure, I'll go even up.   Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,10:19) And don't tell her about those Swedish girls. Got it.  We gotta stick together. Lou -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2007,10:22    Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 30 2007,15:35) Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,10:19) Dude, other way around on the thee and thou stuff. Actually, thee and thou were the informal, personal, more intimate pronouns at the time they were actually used. Lookie here. I'd expect an Englishman to have a handle on such things as proper English. Well bugger me quite deftly, I'm wrong. Thanks for the correction. Of course I'll never admit that and will now call you a liar. Wouldn't want Skeptic to be disappointed now would I? ;-) Louis -------------- Bye.

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2007,10:53    Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,11:22) Well bugger me quite deftly, I'm wrong. While infinitely tempting, and at the same time a wonderful example of the Queen's English that I love so much, the contemplation of the act itself connotates issues of Divine Self Pleasure that I'd rather not discuss openly on this board.  Call me though, and we'll talk dirty.     Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,11:22) Thanks for the correction. You are quite welcome to whatever minor immense benefits of the severe religious indoctrination education I endured enjoyed in my wasted youth younger years that may sully enrich your life.   Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,11:22) Of course I'll never admit that and will now call you a liar. Wouldn't want Skeptic to be disappointed now would I? ;-) Louis Shall I now expound upon the convergence of Spanish and French to create Portuguese a la AFDaveyDoodles? :) And more importantly, are you in for the cheerleader/Celtic lass trade? Zero, in thinking about said Celtic lass, there's something from the bible I'd like to see you parse, if you've got a moment. Quote Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. - Song of Solomon 4:16 Lay it on me, I'm really interested in your numerological exegesis of that. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2007,14:06    Yellowbook Lou.  Yellowbook.com -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2007,08:13    Huh.  I always read that verse and found it a little more blue. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2007,20:21    Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. "the number of a man and his number" Jesus + 9 = wisdom (83) Jesus x 9 = 666 12 + 12 + 12 = 666 Check out a roulette table. Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Steverino Posts: 411 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2007,07:33    Drop the net!...We got one! -------------- - Born right the first time. - Asking questions is NOT the same as providing answers. - It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys show up!

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2007,08:57    Mat 17:27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee. A piece of 'money' is 'one'. piece (38) + one (34) = money God + (l) = gold (38) (one fold of 888) Jesus x 12 (l) = 888 88 x 8 = 704 (God) Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Assassinator Posts: 479 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2007,09:24    To bad hero, your doing it in the wrong language. The Bible isn't in english, it's original language of the Old Testament was Hebrew and the New Testament was in Greek. Your patterns are flawd.

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2007,09:44    Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 02 2007,09:24) To bad hero, your doing it in the wrong language. The Bible isn't in english, it's original language of the Old Testament was Hebrew and the New Testament was in Greek. Your patterns are flawd. Only as flawed as your grammar and spelling.  You forgot to capitalize "English" and you misspelled "flawed".  However, I would note that, despite such errors, we still get your point.  You are able to adequately express yourself in a language other than your native one.  Similarly, while Zero is obviously not reading the Bible in its original languages, it is still speaks to his understanding in it's derivative English form.   Do you challenge people in the street for speaking a language you don't understand?  Probably not. So, why do you feel compelled to essentially the same thing here? -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2007,10:32    Thank you again Carlson ---------------------------------------- 2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. One day = 1,000 years 1,000 years = 365,000,000 years (one day) 7,ooo years = 2,555,000,000 years (one week) Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

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