sir_toejam
Posts: 846
Joined: April 2005
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...the rest is just plain old misinformation and ignorance, which we CAN help with.
example:
| Quote | Populations evolve, not individual organisms. If you don’t understand that, there’s not much anyone can do for you.
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is criticized by our new student thusly:
| Quote | Evolution does not occur at the population level, all diversity occurs at the individual level, actually the molecular level to be exact.
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which is close, but not quite right.
selection acts at the individual level, which results in observable changes eventually at the population level.
so it is just fine to say we see evolution at the population level, so long as we define how selection is acting on the individual first.
Now skeptic, if you actually want to be treated with respect, rather than coming here and assuming you already know all the answers, and we are just morons YOU need to educate, you might want to re-think your approach.
for example, you could tell us things you learned from a specific source, and then ask if anybody knows if that is correct or not, and go from there.
example:
instead of saying:
| Quote | | Efforts to debuke >debunk< ID at all costs only make us look dogmatic and something akin to religious fanatics. |
a better approach would have been:
I can't figure out the value of debunking ID. To me it seems to make scientists look dogmatic. Does anybody here have a clue as to the value of spending so much time trying to debunk ID?
to which most here would have gladly pointed out why it is that there is value in continually pointing out how scientifically vacuous the whole idea of ID is.
understand?
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