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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2015,11:49   

weather does not equal climate

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2015,11:56   

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If that is 72 inches then you have other issues

Right, because although we can change c and the age of the earth to suit our whim, inches are sacred.  

So inches rely on the speed of light in order to be accurate?

I'm not sure what that means.  An inch is defined to be 2.54 cm, and or 0.0254 m, and a metre is defined to be the distance light travels in a vacuum in 1/299,792,458 seconds.  So inches are defined in terms of c.

No, an inch and 2.54 cm are defined as the same measure, given the current speed of light. Also inches existed as a unit of measure before centimeters, ie the metric system.

The current speed of light?

Do you have any evidence the speed of light in a vacuum has been different in the past or will be different in the future?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2015,12:14   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 11 2015,11:36)
No, an inch and 2.54 cm are defined as the same measure, given the current speed of light. Also inches existed as a unit of measure before centimeters, ie the metric system.

Interesting.  So if the speed of light in a vacuum changed somehow, would 1 inch and 2.54 cm no longer be the same length?  Would I have to get a new ruler?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2015,12:49   

If all waves travel at the same speed, why do I see the lightning before I hear the thunder, Joe?  Enlighten us, O Guru!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2015,12:58   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 11 2015,11:58)
All you have to do Joe is say, "I made a mistake and frequency does not equal wavelength."

That's it.

But we all know you won't.

I have a really stupid relative who thinks he's only wrong if he admits it, whereas if he keeps babbling he never has to be wrong.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2015,13:12   

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This frequency = wavelength thing was carried over from  my blog and the context set there. Grow up

And it was pointed out there that you were wrong. You only brought up the "all else being equal" argument very recently, when it was pointed out to you that it is common for one frequency to have many different wavelengths.

It is difficult to see how a person with an IQ of 150 not to look up in the sky and see this fact whenever there is a light rainfall. But given your homophobia, maybe you refuse to look at rainbows as a matter of principle.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2015,13:28   

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This frequency = wavelength thing was carried over from  my blog and the context set there. Grow up

And it was pointed out there that you were wrong. You only brought up the "all else being equal" argument very recently, when it was pointed out to you that it is common for one frequency to have many different wavelengths.

It is difficult to see how a person with an IQ of 150 not to look up in the sky and see this fact whenever there is a light rainfall. But given your homophobia, maybe you refuse to look at rainbows as a matter of principle.

And even if all waves travel at the same speed in Joe's universe, frequency would still not equal wavelength.  There would be a one-to-one correspondence, but that doesn't mean they're equal to each other.  They're not even the same piggin' dimension, for fuck's sake.

Shall we talk about standing waves next?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2015,15:15   

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Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 11 2015,11:58)
All you have to do Joe is say, "I made a mistake and frequency does not equal wavelength."

That's it.

But we all know you won't.

I have a really stupid relative who thinks he's only wrong if he admits it, whereas if he keeps babbling he never has to be wrong.

If you can't see me, then I can't see you.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2015,17:13   

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All you have to do Joe is say, "I made a mistake and frequency does not equal wavelength."

That's it.

But we all know you won't.

I have a really stupid relative who thinks he's only wrong if he admits it, whereas if he keeps babbling he never has to be wrong.

If you can't see me, then I can't see you.

That's our Joe: daft as a brush,  but very very ravenous.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2015,06:47   

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All you have to do Joe is say, "I made a mistake and frequency does not equal wavelength."

That's it.

But we all know you won't.

I have a really stupid relative who thinks he's only wrong if he admits it, whereas if he keeps babbling he never has to be wrong.

If you can't see me, then I can't see you.

That's our Joe: daft as a brush,  but very very ravenous.

I'm pretty sure frequency isn't measured in inches, cm or fucking furlongs per fucking fortnight. Joe must be the stupidest person in the universe. The fact that he can't see that is just further proof that he is.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2015,06:55   

Oh and Joe if you are reading this lookup relative permittivity and velocity factor and I DARE YOU TO LIE AGAIN THAT FREQUENCY = WAVELENGTH.

LIAR AND A USELESS CUNT .......ALMOST A FULL HOUSE JOE.....


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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2015,08:03   



Joe's brain doing Dimensional Analysis and Green's functions in relation to wave equations at medium interfaces. Note it's only a 2d image.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 16 2015,16:28   

Joe has been trying to defend his frequency = wavelength claim over on Larry Moran's blog. To the same effect, I might add.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 16 2015,19:25   

Oops

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The impact of anthropogenic forcing on the probability of high mean summer temperatures being exceeded in Texas in the year 2011 was investigated using an atmospheric circulation model to simulate large ensembles of the world with 2011-level forcing and 5 “counterfactual” worlds under pre-industrial forcing. In Texas, drought is a strong control on summer temperature, so an increased frequency in large precipitation deficits and/or soil moisture deficits that may result from anthropogenic forcing could magnify the regional footprint of global warming. However, no simulated increase in the frequency of large precipitation deficits, or of soil moisture deficits, was detected from pre-industrial to 2011 conditions. Despite the lack of enhancement to warming via these potential changes in the hydrological cycle, the likelihood of a given unusually high summer temperature being exceeded was simulated to be about 10 times greater due to anthropogenic emissions.


http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi....article

And if anyone can get me a PDF, I'd be grateful...

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,11:08   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 11 2015,11:49)
weather does not equal climate

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Weather dictates/ determines the climate-

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,11:09   

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If all waves travel at the same speed, why do I see the lightning before I hear the thunder, Joe?  Enlighten us, O Guru!

I didn't say that all waves travel at the same speed.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,11:13   

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Joe has been trying to defend his frequency = wavelength claim over on Larry Moran's blog. To the same effect, I might add.

To the same effect means my opponents are still dull.

When I adjust the frequency knob on my signal generator why does the wavelength change accordingly? When I tune my radio to transmit a certain carrier frequency why does the wavelength of that carrier change accordingly?

E=MC^2 means that matter and energy are different manifestations of the same thing.

Frequency and wavelength are differing numerical representations of the SAME WAVE. Once you have one you have the other.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,11:17   

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Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 11 2015,11:36)
No, an inch and 2.54 cm are defined as the same measure, given the current speed of light. Also inches existed as a unit of measure before centimeters, ie the metric system.

Interesting.  So if the speed of light in a vacuum changed somehow, would 1 inch and 2.54 cm no longer be the same length?  Would I have to get a new ruler?

Inches would exist if centimeters did not. Inches do not require centimeters for a measurement calibration.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,11:31   

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When it was repeatedly, and independently, demonstrated to Joe that one frequency can in fact have more than one wavelength, he runs away like a bully after his first bloody nose.

Yes, if you change the CONSTANT, like a dick, you can show many different things. However using the SAME CONSTANT, what I said stands.

This is exactly what I predicted.

You didn't say that originally. Therefore, your claim is wrong.

I see you back pedaling and trying to redirect. But your original claim is wrong and you know it.



P.S. This is EXACTLY the same thing you did to me four pages ago. Now, you can either apologize and admit I was correct or be judged as a hypocrite. I think I can predict which way you'll go. You'll do anything to prevent having to admit you're wrong.

LoL! Kevin, it was so obvious and that is why I kept asking for examples so I could show you were being anal retentive dickheads.

OTOH climate change has to take into account the history of the earth because that very history calls into question the chicken-little alarmists. The climate changes, that is what it does and will do so regardless of any input from us.

And when we're talking about human caused climate change, you can really only talk about the time period when humans as a technological species existed.

Normal people understand this.

You are still a climate denier, which is odd, because you agree that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and you know that humans are dumping gigatons of CO2 into the atmosphere. And yet, you don't think that humans cause climate change.

You're weird.

How am I a climate denier when I say that the climate changes and is changing? Weird, indeed.

Just because I understand that CO2 increase only matters when all else remains equal and all else doesn't remain equal, that makes me a denier? Idiot.

Plants need CO2, we need plants. The Sun, our orbit and the angle of Earth's tilt have far more sway over our climate than parts per million does. Water vapor is by far a bigger player- just look at deserts. There's CO2 there but the lack of water vapor is what allows the desert nights to get real cool.

CO2 is not the problem. Just about everything else we do is, though. Dirty snow melts in temperatures that are below freezing. And the glaciers are filthy

Wow, to this Kevin the ass posts some spewage about weather and climate.

What is wrong with you, Kevin?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,11:33   

What's wrong with me?

I keep assuming that you are a rational, thinking being who wants to learn about reality. That's my problem.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,11:44   

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No, an inch and 2.54 cm are defined as the same measure, given the current speed of light. Also inches existed as a unit of measure before centimeters, ie the metric system.

Interesting.  So if the speed of light in a vacuum changed somehow, would 1 inch and 2.54 cm no longer be the same length?  Would I have to get a new ruler?

Inches would exist if centimeters did not. Inches do not require centimeters for a measurement calibration.

Welp, that doesn't appear to answer either of my two yes-or-no questions.  

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,12:09   

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If all waves travel at the same speed, why do I see the lightning before I hear the thunder, Joe?  Enlighten us, O Guru!

I didn't say that all waves travel at the same speed.

But you said there's a one-to-one correspondence between frequency and wavelength*.  This can only be true if velocity is invariant.



* As I'm in a charitable mood, i'm going to disregard "frequency=wavelength" and just put it on the Big List Of Unbelievably Stupid Things Which Joe Is Too Pig-Headed To Retract.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,12:24   

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What's wrong with me?

I keep assuming that you are a rational, thinking being who wants to learn about reality. That's my problem.

No Kevin, you keep twisting what your opponents say and you have no desire to understand what is actually being debated.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,12:25   

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If all waves travel at the same speed, why do I see the lightning before I hear the thunder, Joe?  Enlighten us, O Guru!

I didn't say that all waves travel at the same speed.

But you said there's a one-to-one correspondence between frequency and wavelength*.  This can only be true if velocity is invariant.



* As I'm in a charitable mood, i'm going to disregard "frequency=wavelength" and just put it on the Big List Of Unbelievably Stupid Things Which Joe Is Too Pig-Headed To Retract.

There is a one-to-one correspondence between frequency and wavelength in any given context.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,12:26   

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If all waves travel at the same speed, why do I see the lightning before I hear the thunder, Joe?  Enlighten us, O Guru!

I didn't say that all waves travel at the same speed.

But you said there's a one-to-one correspondence between frequency and wavelength*.  This can only be true if velocity is invariant.



* As I'm in a charitable mood, i'm going to disregard "frequency=wavelength" and just put it on the Big List Of Unbelievably Stupid Things Which Joe Is Too Pig-Headed To Retract.

When I adjust the frequency knob of my signal generator the wavelength is the only thing that changes and it changes accordingly.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,12:27   

When I adjust the frequency knob on my signal generator why does the wavelength change accordingly? When I tune my radio to transmit a certain carrier frequency why does the wavelength of that carrier change accordingly?

E=MC^2 means that matter and energy are different manifestations of the same thing.

Frequency and wavelength are differing numerical representations of the SAME WAVE. Once you have one you have the other.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,12:28   

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Yes, Richie. We all know that you are sooo ronery. We also know that you are just a cheer-leader with nothing to say.

Strange that Richie tells me to post here and when I do he has a hissy-fit.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2015,12:33   

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I don't know of any court case in which the defendant argued that an act was done by disembodied spirits.

Meanwhile paternity suits turn on evidence of common descent - exactly the same kinds of tests as used in phylogenetic analysis. This is one thing that bugs the hell out of me - valid in the one, invalid in the other, no good reason given. All of a sudden, at some arbitrary remove from intraspecies descent, the self-same commonality markers elide from accepted common descent to hogwash 'common design'. The less like each other genome pairs become, the more commonly-designed they are!

That is so wrong and pathetic. The tests use to determine paternity would show no relationship between humans and chimps. Different DNA sequences and different tests.

Also common design is both an observation and an experience in our world.

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