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stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2020,10:53    Quote 85 Ed George February 1, 2020 at 10:39 am Jawa Quote February 1, 2020 at 10:04 am This discussion thread made it into the top 5 most popular posts in the last month: That doesn’t speak well for this site. A discussion with a few people arguing what “nature” means, a tangent on the grammatical correctness of a sentence, some nonsense about bonobos, and another tangent about who I am and whether or not I have ever been banned at UD. link

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2020,06:40    Quote 101 Ed George February 1, 2020 at 11:10 pm Jawa, I picked an anti-gay site because of the many discussions held here about homosexuality and same sex marriage. Another common subject here is abortion. Pro choice.org…… 595617 Another subject discussed here frequently is atheism/materialism, etc. friendlyatheist.patheos.com….,,8750 And, occasionally, the discussions revolve around evolution. evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/home.php 1704 natureecoevocommunity.nature.com/…..1231 linky Edited by stevestory on Feb. 02 2020,07:41

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2020,10:19    Quote Scientismists *believe* that labcoats give humans superpowers. Once you wear one, you become all-knowledgeable and all-powerful. Like Superman. It is part of their childish mentality. They rely on magic and have not grown-up. Ed Feser really is an idiot. Moron alert

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2020,11:56    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 02 2020,08:19)   Quote Scientismists *believe* that labcoats give humans superpowers. Once you wear one, you become all-knowledgeable and all-powerful. Like Superman. It is part of their childish mentality. They rely on magic and have not grown-up. Ed Feser really is an idiot. Moron alert -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2020,15:45    Quote 10 Silver AsiaticFebruary 2, 2020 at 2:02 pm EG – I don’t have any recent data on the relative numbers whether trending up or down or flat. Retraction Watch cites a 2008 paper saying that the absolute numbers are “low but increasing”. I’m not the best one to ask on this because I believe that almost all papers on evolutionary biology are fraudulent and are never retracted. We highlight some of those here at times. But from within the scientific community, I mean asking them, the report will probably be that there is little or no increase and there is no problem to be concerned about. This particular OP is just focused on biomedical research and as you mentioned previously, the drive for profitability especially for pharmaceuticals will cause some dishonest reporting. linky

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2020,03:20    Quote ID as a big tent Michael Denton in interview: He goes on, “As for your hint that you can only be an intelligent design [proponent] if you have some a priori theological or religious view, I disagree with that entirely because it doesn’t apply to me. Most of my life I have been pretty agnostic and would only describe myself perhaps as a backsliding Christian, though I’m not in any sense a fervent believer in a God, or the Christian God.” Posted onFebruary 2, 2020 AuthorNews Comment(0) ID is a big tent. You can be a christian, or a backsliding christian. Variety!

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2020,07:58    Any christian, or just the ones that share their world view?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2020,08:34    Quote 112 Ed George February 2, 2020 at 9:52 pm Jawa, you are expending a lot of energy comparing internet rankings and trying to conclude that they are a measure of the level of seriousness of the discussions. UD posts more OPs than their “peers”. Quantity is not quality. News aggregators also have high rankings. I can’t really speak for the others because I seldom (if ever) frequent them. But I did make a point of checking them out and I did find something very unique about UD. It is the only one that is riddled with advertising. The one that popped up when I logged in this time was for “Hour of Power”. Not exactly a science or ID related site. linky

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2020,09:17    Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 03 2020,06:34) Quote 112 Ed George February 2, 2020 at 9:52 pm Jawa, you are expending a lot of energy comparing internet rankings and trying to conclude that they are a measure of the level of seriousness of the discussions. UD posts more OPs than their “peers”. Quantity is not quality. News aggregators also have high rankings. I can’t really speak for the others because I seldom (if ever) frequent them. But I did make a point of checking them out and I did find something very unique about UD. It is the only one that is riddled with advertising. The one that popped up when I logged in this time was for “Hour of Power”. Not exactly a science or ID related site. linky Hour of Power? When they turn on the shower in the "exotic dance showroom"? -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2020,09:37    Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 03 2020,10:17) Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 03 2020,06:34) Quote 112 Ed George February 2, 2020 at 9:52 pm Jawa, you are expending a lot of energy comparing internet rankings and trying to conclude that they are a measure of the level of seriousness of the discussions. UD posts more OPs than their “peers”. Quantity is not quality. News aggregators also have high rankings. I can’t really speak for the others because I seldom (if ever) frequent them. But I did make a point of checking them out and I did find something very unique about UD. It is the only one that is riddled with advertising. The one that popped up when I logged in this time was for “Hour of Power”. Not exactly a science or ID related site. linky Hour of Power? When they turn on the shower in the "exotic dance showroom"? No, this Hour of Power. Jesus needs you to send them money. I just turned off my ad blocker and holy shit that place is crammed full of ads.

NoName Posts: 2729 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2020,10:24    Really now, shouldn’t ID be better characterized as a portable toilet?

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2020,10:37    Quote (NoName @ Feb. 03 2020,10:24) Really now, shouldn’t ID be better characterized as a portable toilet? More like a chamber pot.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2020,11:23    Quote (NoName @ Feb. 03 2020,09:24) Really now, shouldn’t ID be better characterized as a portable toilet? Is ID portable?

rossum Posts: 289 Joined: Dec. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2020,11:37    Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 03 2020,11:23) Quote (NoName @ Feb. 03 2020,09:24) Really now, shouldn’t ID be better characterized as a portable toilet? Is ID portable? As long as it is not Potable. -------------- The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2020,12:21    Quote (rossum @ Feb. 03 2020,11:37) Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 03 2020,11:23) Quote (NoName @ Feb. 03 2020,09:24) Really now, shouldn’t ID be better characterized as a portable toilet? Is ID portable? As long as it is not Potable. It's definitely not palatable.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2020,13:16    Quote 21 Truthfreedom February 3, 2020 at 1:04 pm Evolutionist’s imaginations kind of reminds me of the imaginations of many nutritionists or fad diet supporters or perpetual motion machine supporters or alternative medicine supporters. “Evolutionist’s imaginations kind of reminds me” Apostrophe error and a subject-verb disagreement in six words. Damn. linky

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2020,14:07    So he needs to go to grammar school?

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2020,10:03    Quote Truthfreedom February 4, 2020 at 9:19 am [quaote]I don’t know whether … You know NOTHING and yet, you are always expressing your opinions. Your brain is an evolutionary mess, do not expect rational people to take you seriously. Evos saw off the branch they are sitting on. They undermine their own rationality. This madness has to stop.[/QUOTE] I didn't think it possible, but this guy is even more brain-dead and obnoxious than Joe. Linky

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2020,11:30    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 04 2020,08:03) Quote Truthfreedom February 4, 2020 at 9:19 am [quaote]I don’t know whether … You know NOTHING and yet, you are always expressing your opinions. Your brain is an evolutionary mess, do not expect rational people to take you seriously. Evos saw off the branch they are sitting on. They undermine their own rationality. This madness has to stop. I didn't think it possible, but this guy is even more brain-dead and obnoxious than Joe. Linky[/quote] Could be another alias. Or TF is the Uberjoe. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2020,12:20    Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 04 2020,11:30) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 04 2020,08:03)   Quote Truthfreedom February 4, 2020 at 9:19 am [quaote]I don’t know whether … You know NOTHING and yet, you are always expressing your opinions. Your brain is an evolutionary mess, do not expect rational people to take you seriously. Evos saw off the branch they are sitting on. They undermine their own rationality. This madness has to stop. I didn't think it possible, but this guy is even more brain-dead and obnoxious than Joe. Linky[/quote] Could be another alias. Or TF is the Uberjoe. According to the link in his name, this is Edward Feser, Associate Professor of Philosophy at Pasadena City College in Pasadena, California.

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2020,12:31    Well, no-one knows more about biology than yer workin' thinker. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2020,16:12    Quote 13 Ed George February 4, 2020 at 2:31 pm EF Quote The ones that according to the evolutionist cult prophets (see coyne above, but it includes all atheist materialists): “have no more extrinsic purpose than a squirrel or an armadillo?”. I’m sure to a big brained philosopher like yourself, this makes sense. But to us run-of-the-mill scientists that actually do something productive for society, I hate to say that it comes across as pompous nonsense. lol

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2020,16:15    I looked up Ed Feser a while back, Just to see who he was and what he did. When I came across something he wrote about whether or not evolution was compatible with Aristotle, I just laughed and closed the browser tab.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2020,17:11    Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 04 2020,16:15) I looked up Ed Feser a while back, Just to see who he was and what he did. When I came across something he wrote about whether or not evolution was compatible with Aristotle, I just laughed and closed the browser tab.  :D  :)  :p He’s got some pretty serious anger issues.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2020,17:47    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 04 2020,12:20)   Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 04 2020,11:30)     Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 04 2020,08:03)       Quote Truthfreedom February 4, 2020 at 9:19 am [quaote]I don’t know whether … You know NOTHING and yet, you are always expressing your opinions. Your brain is an evolutionary mess, do not expect rational people to take you seriously. Evos saw off the branch they are sitting on. They undermine their own rationality. This madness has to stop. I didn't think it possible, but this guy is even more brain-dead and obnoxious than Joe. Linky Could be another alias. Or TF is the Uberjoe. According to the link in his name, this is Edward Feser, Associate Professor of Philosophy at Pasadena City College in Pasadena, California.[/quote] He's not Feser.  Edward Feser (pronounced Phaser, as in Star Trek - think "Set your Fesers to dumb") is an actual assistant Professor of philosophy at an actual community college.   From this lofty perch, he surveys the philosophical kingdom and realizes that he's the smartest man in the world and everybody else is a dummy.  Because of his uber intelligence, he feels he is justified in 'arguing' mostly with insults.  Or maybe that he shoulda been a cab driver.  Its hard to tell sometimes. Why TruthFreedom touts an entry in Feser's blog is known only to TF, if even he knows.

Otangelo Posts: 149 Joined: Oct. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2020,17:46    1. A transistor can be considered an artificial Neuron. Every living cell within us is a hybrid analog–digital supercomputer. The brain is like 100 billion computers working together. 2.  Biological cells are programmed to be experts at taking inputs, running them through a complicated series of logic gates through circuit-like operations and producing the desired programmed output. 3. The origin of programs, logic gates, and complex circuits to obtain a purposeful specific outcome is always tracked back to intelligent implementation.

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2020,18:06    Quote Doctor: (Graham Chapman, eating)... I am afraid he is suffering from what we doctors call whooping  cough. That is, the failure of the autonomic nervous section of the brain to deal with the nerve impulses that enable you or I to retain some facts and eliminate others. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2020,23:34    Quote (Otangelo @ Feb. 05 2020,18:46) 1. A transistor can be considered an artificial Neuron. Every living cell within us is a hybrid analog–digital supercomputer. The brain is like 100 billion computers working together. 2.  Biological cells are programmed to be experts at taking inputs, running them through a complicated series of logic gates through circuit-like operations and producing the desired programmed output. 3. The origin of programs, logic gates, and complex circuits to obtain a purposeful specific outcome is always tracked back to intelligent implementation. Quote 1. A transistor can be considered an artificial Neuron. Every living cell within us is a hybrid analog–digital supercomputer. The brain is like 100 billion computers working together. aren’t you stretching that a bit?

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2020,08:35    Stretching it a bit? I counted at least out a dozen outright errors, and one major irrelevancy.

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2020,09:19    Isn't this whole thread a major irrelevancy? -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

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