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khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2011,12:12    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 20 2011,13:01) Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 20 2011,08:06) Quote (Badger3k @ Jan. 19 2011,19:44) Or maybe Joe misidentified the insects as ticks. That's my hypothesis. Immature squash bugs could be mistaken for ticks, if you don't bother to notice that they only have 6 legs rather than 8. And Joey is well known for his powers of observation like that. KILL THEM BEFORE TEHY INFECT MY WATERMELLONS maybe Joe is going to start providing some abstracts for his basement experiments now.  I suspect that they go something like 1)  Start penis pump 2)  Tighten neck choker and ball gag 3)  Press play on Ren & Stimpy video 4)  ******* (edited for teh kids) 5)  remove choker and gag 6)  immediately make sandwich without washing hands 7)  repeat Oh my. Once again the 'net has made me aware of how 'innocent' I am. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2011,12:18    -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2011,12:23    That...is a most impressive canard, M'sieur.  Does it do tricks? The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2011,12:40    Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 20 2011,12:23) That...is a most impressive canard, M'sieur.  Does it do tricks? The MadPanda, FCD It's a 30 foot tall, 2 ton duck... it doesn't have to do freaking tricks. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2011,12:55    Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 20 2011,12:40) Quote (MadPanda @ FCD,Jan. 20 2011,12:23) That...is a most impressive canard, M'sieur.  Does it do tricks? The MadPanda, FCD It's a 30 foot tall, 2 ton duck... it doesn't have to do freaking tricks. Point taken that it doesn't have to do tricks.  I'm just wondering if it knows any. That's a whole lotta Peeking Duck, there. Where can we get fifty thousand gallons of orange sauce in a hurry? The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2011,14:42    Maybe ticks sometimes use watermelon as bait?

didymos Posts: 1828 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2011,00:10    More fun with Joe and arachnids over at UD: Quote A spider web is natural in that it exists in nature. However nature, operating freely, did not produce it. I would say a spider web was a product of the intentional actions of a spider. IOW when I see a spider web I know a spider had been there and left traces of its involvement behind. Nice to see "nature, operating freely" make an appearance. I also love the presentation of "spiders make spider webs" as though it were some masterful feat of design detection. -------------- I wouldn't be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified. -- Denyse O'Leary, professional moron Again "how much". I don't think that's a good way to be quantitative.-- gpuccio

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2011,00:31    Quote (didymos @ Jan. 21 2011,22:10) More fun with Joe and arachnids over at UD:     Quote A spider web is natural in that it exists in nature. However nature, operating freely, did not produce it. I would say a spider web was a product of the intentional actions of a spider. IOW when I see a spider web I know a spider had been there and left traces of its involvement behind. Nice to see "nature, operating freely" make an appearance. I also love the presentation of "spiders make spider webs" as though it were some masterful feat of design detection. So a spider making a web isn't "nature, operating freely"?  WTF?? Spiders aren't natural?  How do you know spiders have "intent"? What part of the spider brain have you been studying? .. and if you'd never seen or heard of a spider, what then? You wouldn't just say "this looks designed" and refuse to investigate further, or simply attribute it to a Magic Web Deity, would you? I dunno, maybe you would. Me, I'd say "Whoa, how'd this get here!?" ... and would discover it was perfectly natural. Made by something perfectly natural, by natural means. See, Joe, how this is different from "Sometime, somewhere, somehow, somebody did something"? -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2011,00:33    Quote (didymos @ Jan. 22 2011,01:10) More fun with Joe and arachnids over at UD:     Quote A spider web is natural in that it exists in nature. However nature, operating freely, did not produce it. I would say a spider web was a product of the intentional actions of a spider. IOW when I see a spider web I know a spider had been there and left traces of its involvement behind. Nice to see "nature, operating freely" make an appearance. I also love the presentation of "spiders make spider webs" as though it were some masterful feat of design detection. We all know that spiders weave webs. Joe also believes that a spider weaves its web because it intends to weave a web. Intentions entail acts of sophisticated representation - e.g. representing or purposing one's possible action before the fact, and then engaging in the act. Joe, do you believe that a spider forms an intention vis weaving a web before (and as) it actually weaves that web? How would you know? -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2011,06:26    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 22 2011,00:33)   Quote (didymos @ Jan. 22 2011,01:10) More fun with Joe and arachnids over at UD:         Quote A spider web is natural in that it exists in nature. However nature, operating freely, did not produce it. I would say a spider web was a product of the intentional actions of a spider. IOW when I see a spider web I know a spider had been there and left traces of its involvement behind. Nice to see "nature, operating freely" make an appearance. I also love the presentation of "spiders make spider webs" as though it were some masterful feat of design detection. We all know that spiders weave webs. Joe also believes that a spider weaves its web because it intends to weave a web. Intentions entail acts of sophisticated representation - e.g. representing or purposing one's possible action before the fact, and then engaging in the act. Joe, do you believe that a spider forms an intention vis weaving a web before (and as) it actually weaves that web? How would you know? This is part and parcel of the one of the major lines of evidence schtick among the IDists. The brain is natural, but the (disembodied) mind/soul is not.  Therefore, intelligence (which is a product of the mind) is not natural. Nor is anything that is produced by intelligence. Hey, Joey, are spiders intelligent?  Do they have a soul? -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2011,19:45    Quote Hey, Joey, are spiders intelligent???Do they have a soul? Eight of them - one on each foot. Henry

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2011,19:56    There is a large spider on your shoulder.  Your argument is invalid. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2011,22:00    Is the arachnid of unusual size also wearing roller skates?  If so, it's the result of the Ridikulus anti-boggart cantrip and does not count for argument-ending purposes. The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2011,11:34    Haven't been by AtBC lately. Went traveling about the blogosphere and stopped by the Bookworm Room to debunk the typical claim, Pelosi = Socialist = Communist = Fascist. This led to a number of exchanges. Zachriel's departure led to an entire thread dedicated to conspiracy theories surrounding Zachriel. But what might be of interest to this board is that Joe G was mentioned as an "ID scientist". -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2011,11:58    Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 24 2011,11:34) Haven't been by AtBC lately. Went traveling about the blogosphere and stopped by the Bookworm Room to debunk the typical claim, Pelosi = Socialist = Communist = Fascist. This led to a number of exchanges. Zachriel's departure led to an entire thread dedicated to conspiracy theories surrounding Zachriel. But what might be of interest to this board is that Joe G was mentioned as an "ID scientist". Maybe he can go there and convince that them to remove ticks by rubbing oranges over their bodies. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

tsig Posts: 339 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2011,12:51    Quote (didymos @ Jan. 22 2011,00:10) More fun with Joe and arachnids over at UD:   Quote A spider web is natural in that it exists in nature. However nature, operating freely, did not produce it. I would say a spider web was a product of the intentional actions of a spider. IOW when I see a spider web I know a spider had been there and left traces of its involvement behind. Nice to see "nature, operating freely" make an appearance. I also love the presentation of "spiders make spider webs" as though it were some masterful feat of design detection. At last we know who the Intelligent Designer is...Shelob!!!

tsig Posts: 339 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2011,13:03    Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 24 2011,11:34) Haven't been by AtBC lately. Went traveling about the blogosphere and stopped by the Bookworm Room to debunk the typical claim, Pelosi = Socialist = Communist = Fascist. This led to a number of exchanges. Zachriel's departure led to an entire thread dedicated to conspiracy theories surrounding Zachriel. But what might be of interest to this board is that Joe G was mentioned as an "ID scientist". Zach’s assault here was the equivalent of banging one’s head against the wall. The problem with trying to disrupt a website like Bookworm Room is that the group here is too tightly knit, too experienced, too critically thoughtful and too intelligent to not quickly see through the attempt. Zach, you were completely outclassed. You couldn't knit tight doilies.

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2011,13:08    Quote (tsig @ Jan. 24 2011,18:51) Quote (didymos @ Jan. 22 2011,00:10) More fun with Joe and arachnids over at UD:     Quote A spider web is natural in that it exists in nature. However nature, operating freely, did not produce it. I would say a spider web was a product of the intentional actions of a spider. IOW when I see a spider web I know a spider had been there and left traces of its involvement behind. Nice to see "nature, operating freely" make an appearance. I also love the presentation of "spiders make spider webs" as though it were some masterful feat of design detection. At last we know who the Intelligent Designer is...Shelob!!! Well, you should go back to brushing up your Silmarillion. Shelob is only a late offspring of Ungoliant, who sneaked through the Green Lands with Melkor/Morgoth to steal the Light out of the Trees, further hungering for the Silmarils... So Ungoliant would be the designer. Yet, Ungoliant is a Mayar (might be mistaken on her rank among the Ainurs) and thus the direct product of the song writen by Eru Illuvatar and sang by the Ainurs. in the end, Eru Illuvatar is the Designer of Arda and all that be. I've always had love for Tolkien's fantasy. Not so much for the pale copy writen by this "god" guy... -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2011,14:33    I think I just heard the scream of millions of chickens having their heads bitten off. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2011,14:38    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 24 2011,13:08) Quote (tsig @ Jan. 24 2011,18:51)   Quote (didymos @ Jan. 22 2011,00:10) More fun with Joe and arachnids over at UD:     Quote A spider web is natural in that it exists in nature. However nature, operating freely, did not produce it. I would say a spider web was a product of the intentional actions of a spider. IOW when I see a spider web I know a spider had been there and left traces of its involvement behind. Nice to see "nature, operating freely" make an appearance. I also love the presentation of "spiders make spider webs" as though it were some masterful feat of design detection. At last we know who the Intelligent Designer is...Shelob!!! Well, you should go back to brushing up your Silmarillion. Shelob is only a late offspring of Ungoliant, who sneaked through the Green Lands with Melkor/Morgoth to steal the Light out of the Trees, further hungering for the Silmarils... So Ungoliant would be the designer. Yet, Ungoliant is a Mayar (might be mistaken on her rank among the Ainurs) and thus the direct product of the song writen by Eru Illuvatar and sang by the Ainurs. in the end, Eru Illuvatar is the Designer of Arda and all that be. I've always had love for Tolkien's fantasy. Not so much for the pale copy writen by this "god" guy... Here's what I read: Wel, you shoudl go back to brushing up your... blah blah Trees... blah blah blah song... blah blah blah... AAAAUUUGGGHHH... Tolkien geeks are the worst of the hardcore geeks.  I'm not that much of a geek (and dude, I'm a geek)! -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2011,14:52    Happy to be help! :) And the worst part is: I don't care much about Tolkien, although I know a bit about his work. Ask about Pratchett now, that's an entirely different level! :p ETA: When someone invoques a major piece of literature, one can't help but go in dephts about invoqued references. I don't know, it's just one of those things... ETAA: And I have a sexual life! -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2011,17:04    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Jan. 24 2011,14:52) Happy to be help! :) And the worst part is: I don't care much about Tolkien, although I know a bit about his work. Ask about Pratchett now, that's an entirely different level! :p ETA: When someone invoques a major piece of literature, one can't help but go in dephts about invoqued references. I don't know, it's just one of those things... ETAA: And I have a sexual life! Watch out.  Girls who sleep with you because you can quote the Silmarillion are into some freaky stuff. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2011,21:33    Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 24 2011,17:04) Watch out.  Girls who sleep with you because you can quote the Silmarillion are into some freaky stuff. ...because obviously if you can get through the Silmarillion, you've got incredible focus, devotion, and above all endurance. Never could get into that book.  Not sure I want to try.  I hear his pantheon is missing a deity of mischief, fun, and general hijinks, and such a lack is hard to forgive. The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2011,16:16    Quote (OgreMkV @ Dec. 27 2010,14:15) Joe, as I've asked you for a thousand times... why don't you tell us EXACTLY, in great excruciating detail what ID is... and then stick with your definition. Then we don't have to argue about what it is and what it isn't. Go ahead, we'll wait, but we won't hold our breath.  You haven't posted it yet after months of asking for it. Why are you asking me? You should know what ID is if you are going to aggressively try to refute it. Shit you don't even appear to understand your position. Perhaps you should focus on that and stop with your literature bluffing. But anyway, as for ID we can start out with: What is Intelligent Design? Quote Quote Intelligent Design is the study of patterns in nature that are best explained as the result of intelligence.-- William A. Dembski Design theory—also called design or the design argument—is the view that nature shows tangible signs of having been designed by a preexisting intelligence. It has been around, in one form or another, since the time of ancient Greece. ID is based on three premises and the inference that follows (DeWolf et al., "Darwinism, Design and Public Education", pg. 92): Quote 1) High information content (or specified complexity) and irreducible complexity constitute strong indicators or hallmarks of (past) intelligent design. 2) Biological systems have a high information content (or specified complexity) and utilize subsystems that manifest irreducible complexity. 3) Naturalistic mechanisms or undirected causes do not suffice to explain the origin of information (specified complexity) or irreducible complexity. 4) Therefore, intelligent design constitutes the best explanations for the origin of information and irreducible complexity in biological systems. IOW ID claims that Complex Specied Information, not Shannon's "mere complexity", is an indicator of agency involvement. IOW just as archaeologists claim that artifacts require an artist and just as forensic scientists claim a murder requires a murderer, ID claims that CSI requires a designer. So science asks the question: "How did it come to be this way?" and ID claims that agency involvement was required. So to refute that inference all you have to do is actually produce some positive evidence for your position. ID's position is not all mutations are the accidents/ errors/ mistakes your position baldly claims. But heck you can't even answer a few basic questions: It appears the theory of evolution is devoid of content = empty. The evidence for that is found in the following avoided questions: 1- How can we test the premise that the bacterial flagellum evolved in a population that never had one via an accumulation of genetic accidents? 2- How can we test the premise that fish evolved into land animals via an accumulation of genetic accidents? 3- How can we test the premise that reptiles evolved into mammals via an accumulation of genetic accidents? Those are a few of the thousands questions evos need a testable hypothesis for. So why are evos so afraid of those questions? I say it is because by attempting to answer them they will expose their position as the bullshit it is. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2011,16:17    Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Jan. 20 2011,03:30) Quote (Badger3k @ Jan. 19 2011,20:44)   Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 19 2011,18:45)   Quote (khan @ Jan. 19 2011,14:57)     Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 19 2011,17:34) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tick       Quote Tick is the common name for the small arachnids in superfamily Ixodoidea that, along with other mites, constitute the Acarina. Ticks are ectoparasites (external parasites), living by hematophagy on the blood of mammals, birds, and occasionally reptiles and amphibians. ...       Quote ...Ticks are blood-feeding parasites that are often found in tall grass where they will wait to attach to a passing host I have removed ticks from myself and from cats. The buggers have no preference for watermelon. Maybe they just like the colour red. Could be many factors that might draw them to it - even the texture of the watermelon rind might do it, for all I know.  Or maybe Joe misidentified the insects as ticks. Given Joe's towering intellect, I wouldn't be surprised if he misidentified watermelon seeds as ticks. No, you moron. There are no seeds in watermelon RINDS. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2011,16:20    Quote (khan @ Jan. 19 2011,16:57) Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 19 2011,17:34) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tick   Quote Tick is the common name for the small arachnids in superfamily Ixodoidea that, along with other mites, constitute the Acarina. Ticks are ectoparasites (external parasites), living by hematophagy on the blood of mammals, birds, and occasionally reptiles and amphibians. ...   Quote ...Ticks are blood-feeding parasites that are often found in tall grass where they will wait to attach to a passing host I have removed ticks from myself and from cats. The buggers have no preference for watermelon. Well I have removed ticks from myself, my cats, dogs and the deer I was about to clean. Those were ticks on the watermelon rinds. And you are a clueless dolt... BTW how is the rat-fucking going for ya? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2011,16:21    Attention starved Joe G is back! Are you a moderator at TT yet? I stopped reading your blog. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

phhht Posts: 38 Joined: Oct. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2011,16:24    Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 03 2011,16:17) Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Jan. 20 2011,03:30)   Quote (Badger3k @ Jan. 19 2011,20:44)     Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 19 2011,18:45)     Quote (khan @ Jan. 19 2011,14:57)       Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 19 2011,17:34) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tick         Quote Tick is the common name for the small arachnids in superfamily Ixodoidea that, along with other mites, constitute the Acarina. Ticks are ectoparasites (external parasites), living by hematophagy on the blood of mammals, birds, and occasionally reptiles and amphibians. ...         Quote ...Ticks are blood-feeding parasites that are often found in tall grass where they will wait to attach to a passing host I have removed ticks from myself and from cats. The buggers have no preference for watermelon. Maybe they just like the colour red. Could be many factors that might draw them to it - even the texture of the watermelon rind might do it, for all I know.  Or maybe Joe misidentified the insects as ticks. Given Joe's towering intellect, I wouldn't be surprised if he misidentified watermelon seeds as ticks. No, you moron. There are no seeds in watermelon RINDS. Yo rectal itch, Is your definition of "information" "bits per second?"  If not, what is it? -------------- Je n'avais pas besoin de cette hypothese-la. -- Pierre Simon Laplace, explaining the absence of any mention of God in his work

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2011,16:25    Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 22 2011,00:31) Quote (didymos @ Jan. 21 2011,22:10) More fun with Joe and arachnids over at UD:     Quote A spider web is natural in that it exists in nature. However nature, operating freely, did not produce it. I would say a spider web was a product of the intentional actions of a spider. IOW when I see a spider web I know a spider had been there and left traces of its involvement behind. Nice to see "nature, operating freely" make an appearance. I also love the presentation of "spiders make spider webs" as though it were some masterful feat of design detection. So a spider making a web isn't "nature, operating freely"?  WTF?? Spiders aren't natural?  How do you know spiders have "intent"? What part of the spider brain have you been studying? .. and if you'd never seen or heard of a spider, what then? You wouldn't just say "this looks designed" and refuse to investigate further, or simply attribute it to a Magic Web Deity, would you? I dunno, maybe you would. Me, I'd say "Whoa, how'd this get here!?" ... and would discover it was perfectly natural. Made by something perfectly natural, by natural means. See, Joe, how this is different from "Sometime, somewhere, somehow, somebody did something"? No, a spider is not nature, operating freely. Are you really that stupid? Do you think my car is from nature, operating freely too? As I told the asshole over on UD if you ever get any evidence that nature, operating freely can produce a living organism from non-living matter then you will have a point. Until then all organisms are agencies and they usually leave traces of their involvement behind. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2011,16:27    Quote (phhht @ Feb. 03 2011,16:24) Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 03 2011,16:17)   Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Jan. 20 2011,03:30)   Quote (Badger3k @ Jan. 19 2011,20:44)     Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 19 2011,18:45)       Quote (khan @ Jan. 19 2011,14:57)       Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 19 2011,17:34) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tick         Quote Tick is the common name for the small arachnids in superfamily Ixodoidea that, along with other mites, constitute the Acarina. Ticks are ectoparasites (external parasites), living by hematophagy on the blood of mammals, birds, and occasionally reptiles and amphibians. ...         Quote ...Ticks are blood-feeding parasites that are often found in tall grass where they will wait to attach to a passing host I have removed ticks from myself and from cats. The buggers have no preference for watermelon. Maybe they just like the colour red. Could be many factors that might draw them to it - even the texture of the watermelon rind might do it, for all I know.  Or maybe Joe misidentified the insects as ticks. Given Joe's towering intellect, I wouldn't be surprised if he misidentified watermelon seeds as ticks. No, you moron. There are no seeds in watermelon RINDS. Yo rectal itch, Is your definition of "information" "bits per second?"  If not, what is it? My definition of "information" is the same as the dictionaries' definitions- ie the same as I have writing about on my blog. IOW your ignorance is duly noted. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

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