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CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2016,01:58    Quote (sparc @ Feb. 16 2016,22:35)   Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 16 2016,18:59) dude i was thinking the same thing. Senior Research Scientist at both (!!!!) Biologic Institute and the Evolutionary Informatics lab. Bet that's a grueling set of responsibilities. Does Ewert being promoted already to senior status mean that we can hope for fresh meat? I think donations to the DI are getting tight so they had to get rid of some of the meat that's "gone off".  Hence exit Dembski and the Attack Gerbil.  It shouldn't be hard to replace either of them.  If they don't, we'll know it was the budget.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2016,02:18    Isn't Ewert the guy who was nice enough to set up a special place where we could ask him questions? I've always felt guilty because I didn't go there and ask, 1: Are you aware that one of your mentors got shit canned from Baylor University, snuck back in and got shit canned a second time, (with oak leaf clusters), posted the names, home addresses, home phone numbers and private email addresses of the entire Baylor Board of Regents to Uncommon Descent because he thought that would somehow make them want to take him back, provided the fart noises for a cartoon poking fun at his opponents and then finished his career by getting shit canned from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary? 2: Are you sure you want to tie your career to an academic train wreck? 3: Bonus question.  What do you think it was like for the members of the Baylor Board when JoeG, Mung, Mapou, Gary Gaulin, BornAgain77, KairosFocus and the rest of the UD gang got their phone numbers and private email addresses? Edited by CeilingCat on Feb. 17 2016,02:22

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2016,09:59    Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 16 2016,18:59) dude i was thinking the same thing. Senior Research Scientist at both (!!!!) Biologic Institute and the Evolutionary Informatics lab. Bet that's a grueling set of responsibilities. My official title is "Senior Scientist" too. Now I think I want it changed. -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2016,15:06    You'd rather be a Junior Scientist?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2016,19:32    Quote Is the Royal Society Finally Catching Up with Our Own Upright Biped? February 16, 2016 Posted by Barry Arrington under Intelligent Design linky

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,02:18    Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 17 2016,15:06) You'd rather be a Junior Scientist?  :) I used to be a "Junior Group Leader", but they changed my title without telling me. I think they were worried they were paying me too much. -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,07:00    Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 18 2016,03:32)         Quote Is the Royal Society Finally Catching Up with Our Own Upright Biped? February 16, 2016 Posted by Barry Arrington under Intelligent Design linky Barry jumps a mole hill. It's a slow day at the daily grimace. Today's opener under that scion of big tent churchly Everyone knows they're Crazy YEC at UD mast head should read "Which Anonymous Fuck Tard should I match up against 'Teh Evil EmpireTM©'. scene opens with Barry playing Barry Arrington except hisself is a  much more handsome version, complete with a full head of hair <check casting to see if Paul 'I AM NOT DRINKING ANY MERLOT' Giamatti is available on the cheap with a big curly ginger wig> camera pans to the back of a luxuriant head of hair pauses for a little longer than would normally be comfortable then pulls back to reveal BA pondering a list of UD regulars on his iphone screen BA muttering and swiping, then finally talking aloud All these useless anonymous cunts couldn't buy a fuck in a knock shop with a fist full of Benjimins. Who's going to take it up to those God Damn Brits. Royals, you can't live with them and you can't live without them.  Fuck, it looks like that dickwad Useless Bi-tard gets to be point man. <BA notes to self ...must take this further when time allows> <Giamatti unavailable fuck fuck fuck cunt> -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,08:38    Quote (k.e.. @ Feb. 18 2016,07:00)   Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 18 2016,03:32)             Quote Is the Royal Society Finally Catching Up with Our Own Upright Biped? February 16, 2016 Posted by Barry Arrington under Intelligent Design linky Barry jumps a mole hill. It's a slow day at the daily grimace. Today's opener under that scion of big tent churchly Everyone knows they're Crazy YEC at UD mast head should read "Which Anonymous Fuck Tard should I match up against 'Teh Evil EmpireTM©'. scene opens with Barry playing Barry Arrington except hisself is a  much more handsome version, complete with a full head of hair <check casting to see if Paul 'I AM NOT DRINKING ANY MERLOT' Giamatti is available on the cheap with a big curly ginger wig> camera pans to the back of a luxuriant head of hair pauses for a little longer than would normally be comfortable then pulls back to reveal BA pondering a list of UD regulars on his iphone screen BA muttering and swiping, then finally talking aloud All these useless anonymous cunts couldn't buy a fuck in a knock shop with a fist full of Benjimins. Who's going to take it up to those God Damn Brits. Royals, you can't live with them and you can't live without them.  Fuck, it looks like that dickwad Useless Bi-tard gets to be point man. <BA notes to self ...must take this further when time allows> <Giamatti unavailable fuck fuck fuck cunt> Are you suggesting that BA, having recruited an unemployed attack gerbil to fill the vacancy for a white, long-haired cat, has become confused and is wearing same a la Donald Trump?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,08:44    Quote 313 Alicia Cartelli February 17, 2016 at 10:46 pm “it does not contradict my points” That would be because nothing can contradict your points. Your hypothesis is untestable. You use sequence data to look at the evolution of a protein, but there is no sequence data where the protein is actually most likely to have evolved. It’s that simple. How many times do I (and others) have to say it? I’m glad you agree that sequence conservation and function are not exactly the same thing. Because they aren’t even close. Function can be maintained even with large amounts of changes in amino acid sequence. Yes, sequence conservation implies function, but (1)small variations in sequence can drastically change function and (2)large changes in sequence can exist in proteins with the same function Obviously it’s more complicated than sequence=function. We certainly can explore the functional space of proteins, and we have. As I have said before, most amino acids in any given protein are replaceable. Conserving function and conserving wild-type levels of function are two completely different things. Remind me again, what was your explanation for the lower homologies seen in other vertebrates? 600 bits over 100 million years, of which we have no information on evolution of the protein in question? Argument of the gaps much? “..extinction is so hyperselective that it can erase any trace of the intermediaries that your theory badly needs.” Completely wrong again. Extinction is the opposite of hyperselective. Extinction has killed +99% of species to have ever lived. Learn some basic biology, then get back to me. Quote 314 Eric Anderson February 18, 2016 at 12:25 am Ah, yes. The old claim that almost all species that have ever lived have gone extinct . . . Anyone have a source for that claim? linky

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,09:14    Quote Barry Arrington’s chapter by chapter review of Denton at your fingertips Calm down errbody--let's not all rush at once to learn all teh important new science!

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,09:15    Quote (Bob O'H @ Feb. 18 2016,02:18) Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 17 2016,15:06) You'd rather be a Junior Scientist?  :) I used to be a "Junior Group Leader", but they changed my title without telling me. I think they were worried they were paying me too much. Junior Group Leader sounds like you're a Lieutenant in the German army. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,16:54    Robert Byers Quote We are not a bunch of chemicals or water with chemicals. And I always thought that water was a chemical. I learn something new every day at UD.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,18:12    Quote 323 Mung February 18, 2016 at 10:02 am Alicia Cartelli: Learn some basic biology, then get back to me. Ah. I finally see the problem. You are stuck at basic biology and the concepts we are discussing are above your head. We should dumb things down for you? Dear Alicia: Please don't straight-up murder Mung. I know, I know, but just please don't.

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,18:27    Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 18 2016,18:12) Quote 323 Mung February 18, 2016 at 10:02 am Alicia Cartelli: Learn some basic biology, then get back to me. Ah. I finally see the problem. You are stuck at basic biology and the concepts we are discussing are above your head. We should dumb things down for you? Dear Alicia: Please don't straight-up murder Mung. I know, I know, but just please don't. We might all get subpoenaed to testify that it was justified. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,18:44    All praise be unto keiths!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111 VERRY SCIENCY LAB OF SCIENCE SCIENCISNG!

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,18:45    link via TSZ, richard hughes, keiths, Book of Faces, etc.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,18:53    Quote (Texas Teach @ Feb. 18 2016,19:27) Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 18 2016,18:12) Quote 323 Mung February 18, 2016 at 10:02 am Alicia Cartelli: Learn some basic biology, then get back to me. Ah. I finally see the problem. You are stuck at basic biology and the concepts we are discussing are above your head. We should dumb things down for you? Dear Alicia: Please don't straight-up murder Mung. I know, I know, but just please don't. We might all get subpoenaed to testify that it was justified.

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,20:43    Guesses as to what's written on the door.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,21:09    Quote (Woodbine @ Feb. 18 2016,20:43) Guesses as to what's written on the door. Hair Club for Men?

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,21:25    I'm guessing Barry's office... -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1036 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,21:48    Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 18 2016,21:25) I'm guessing Barry's office... Yup Edit to add: I guess when Barry is doing science he is just dusting the server that hosts the Evolutionary Infomatics Lab website. -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2016,22:39    According to that page the CENTER FOR EVOLUTIONARY INFORMATICS is doing business as 'Arbor Ministries'. Is this not fraud?

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 19 2016,03:20    Quote (Timothy McDougald @ Feb. 18 2016,21:48) Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 18 2016,21:25) I'm guessing Barry's office... Yup Edit to add: I guess when Barry is doing science he is just dusting the server that hosts the Evolutionary Infomatics Lab website. According to this page Robert Marks was/is in charge. But then according to this page Barry is in charge, but the address is Marks' house (as given here). I know almost nothing about US non-profits, so I've no idea how this all works - hopefully someone can explain it. -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 19 2016,06:48    Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 18 2016,18:12) Quote 323 Mung February 18, 2016 at 10:02 am Alicia Cartelli: Learn some basic biology, then get back to me. Ah. I finally see the problem. You are stuck at basic biology and the concepts we are discussing are above your head. We should dumb things down for you? Dear Alicia: Please don't straight-up murder Mung. I know, I know, but just please don't. If the biology is too basic, your buffer solution is not up to the job. Add some HCl.

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 19 2016,08:24    Quote (Bob O'H @ Feb. 19 2016,03:20) Quote (Timothy McDougald @ Feb. 18 2016,21:48)   Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 18 2016,21:25) I'm guessing Barry's office... Yup Edit to add: I guess when Barry is doing science he is just dusting the server that hosts the Evolutionary Infomatics Lab website. According to this page Robert Marks was/is in charge. But then according to this page Barry is in charge, but the address is Marks' house (as given here). I know almost nothing about US non-profits, so I've no idea how this all works - hopefully someone can explain it. Basically, the IRS is so understaffed, that unless you are scamming several million dollars per year (and are not actually a church), then you'll get away with it. I can't imagine there's much money in whatever it is that they do* so no one really cares. Until they take over a federal property** and enact their kangaroo courts to judge science as leftist, materialistic, immoral, and fattening***, then they are meaningless pimples on the butt of society, whose only real purpose is to provide a small income to the owners of the buildings they rent. * Probably sitting around a card table in Barry's basement playing dominos and drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon while plotting the downfall of our materialistic culture. ** In their case, the Steamtown National Historic Site in Scranton. *** and it looks like Barry and Joe are getting a little too much science in that case... -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 19 2016,08:41    Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 17 2016,19:32)     Quote Is the Royal Society Finally Catching Up with Our Own Upright Biped? February 16, 2016 Posted by Barry Arrington under Intelligent Design linky     Quote 2 Mapou February 17, 2016 at 12:08 am Wait till the code denialists begin to claim that this is exactly what they’ve been saying all along. One must never underestimate the deviousness of the enemy. Their lack of honor is legendary and blatant. Yeah, they'll probably claim Francis Crick worked most of it out.  Blatent.

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 19 2016,09:15    Quote (Woodbine @ Feb. 18 2016,18:43) Guesses as to what's written on the door. No Solicitors -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 19 2016,09:32    Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 19 2016,08:24) *** and it looks like Barry and Joe are getting a little too much science in that case... They probably can't tell the difference between Methodological Naturalism and Baking.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 19 2016,09:46    There's some fairly good Tard in the Shawn Carroll All Physics Is Local thread. Dense starts with a long quotation from Shawn Carroll on gravitational waves, then writes       Quote Well, it’ll certainly be action at a distance when a tsunami arrives. It’s unclear how the fact that the gravity travels locally changes that. And posts a Japanese Tsunami video. Mapou, encouraged by this adventure in WTF posts a reply giving 6 reasons why Einstein was dead wrong.   wsread makes the common sense observation that       Quote Comments like this don’t exactly help the reputation of UD Mung replies       Quote It’s a blog. We don’t ban people just because they express ideas you don’t like. Which is actually true.  UD bans people who express ideas Barry doesn't like. Then GaryGaulin attempts to fill the shoes of Batshit77 (who expressed views Barry didn't like and hasn't been seen lately) by pasting a lengthy dissertation on chemistry, string theory and Tard husbandry (or something -  who knows with Gary) addressed to Mapou and ends the quotation with     Quote Warning: I play for keeps. The ever polite Mapou replies with     Quote You know where to pack it, don’t you? Arseteroids and all that.  and appends a smiley face in case Gary's not looking for outright war. Then the thread goes back to being boring and dumb.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 19 2016,11:41    Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 19 2016,17:46) There's some fairly good Tard in the Shawn Carroll All Physics Is Local thread. Dense starts with a long quotation from Shawn Carroll on gravitational waves, then writes       Quote Well, it’ll certainly be action at a distance when a tsunami arrives. It’s unclear how the fact that the gravity travels locally changes that. And posts a Japanese Tsunami video. Mapou, encouraged by this adventure in WTF posts a reply giving 6 reasons why Einstein was dead wrong.   wsread makes the common sense observation that       Quote Comments like this don’t exactly help the reputation of UD Mung replies       Quote It’s a blog. We don’t ban people just because they express ideas you don’t like. Which is actually true.  UD bans people who express ideas Barry doesn't like. Then GaryGaulin attempts to fill the shoes of Batshit77 (who expressed views Barry didn't like and hasn't been seen lately) by pasting a lengthy dissertation on chemistry, string theory and Tard husbandry (or something -  who knows with Gary) addressed to Mapou and ends the quotation with       Quote Warning: I play for keeps. The ever polite Mapou replies with       Quote You know where to pack it, don’t you? Arseteroids and all that.  and appends a smiley face in case Gary's not looking for outright war. Then the thread goes back to being boring and dumb. Does that count as a Friday meltdown or just a few slight drips? -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

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