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sir_toejam Posts: 846 Joined: April 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2006,11:10    (Maybe I'll try scuba-diving;) hey, i can highly recommend that. been doing it since i was 15 and find it to be one of the best sport/hobbies ever.

Sanctum Posts: 88 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2006,21:24    JAD, Why are you banned at the Kansas Citizen's Forum?

Sanctum Posts: 88 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2006,04:19    You must have been impolite.

Sanctum Posts: 88 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2006,04:07    Sometimes you can be rude. Quote jeannot over at the bunker accurately quoted me as follows: "Of course I haven't proved Darwinian mechanisms don't work." He then thanked me. What he neglected to include was what immediately followed: "The Darwimps have done that many times over, the best example being Theodosius Dobzhansky with the Darwimpian mystics pet animal, Drosophila melanogaster, the well named black bellied dew lover." This is typical of the tactics of a desperate ideology and I couldn't resist calling it to your attention.

jeannot Posts: 1201 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2006,04:53    JAD seems confused. I am not Hehe. How could I have quoted him since I've never wasted my time in reading his blog? Anyway, what is he trying to demonstrate?

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2006,05:04    Guys, especially Sanctum, this is not being very kind to someone in rehab. You keep bringing JAD to the top of the pile, and my fingers start twitching. I begin to think Sanctum might be a JAD sockpuppet.

avocationist Posts: 173 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,07:34    Quote What I find mystifying is why Arden Chatfield and stevestory and hehe and Sir toejam and all the rest of the unpublished lightweights over at the Bunker keep picking in poor David Stringer who, like them all, also has no credentials or publications, when they could be taking on a real honest-to-God published scientist like myself. Let me tell you why they don't. It is because they strongly suspect that I am absolutely right, that that are full of it up to their eyeballs and have wasted their pathetic lives chasing something that never existed, thats why. Why did you guys ban him? Admittedly, he's thin-skinned but expects others to have thick. As for his insults, he has elevated it to a fine art, so that gets forgiven. I suspect that the real problem is his debating style. Yet he does engage in civil discourse at iscid.

jeannot Posts: 1201 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,07:51    I see... JAD feels superior because he published some scientific papers and we haven't. Apparently he doesn't realize that no evolutionary biologist would waste his/her time, arguing with some senile creationist. I'm just a student, I can afford to waste my time on this thead. But I won't find it fun forever. Anyway, JAD's publications don't alter the fact that he's a crank. "Prescribed evolution"... LOL

avocationist Posts: 173 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,07:56    jean, your post lacked substance.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,08:30    Davison was banned because of his predilection for off-topic comments that disrupted threads on PT. A collection of Davison's comments on PT may be found at this page. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

jeannot Posts: 1201 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,08:41    Quote (avocationist @ Mar. 13 2006,13:56) jean, your post lacked substance. What substance did you expect from an answer to JAD's nonsense?

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2006,10:30    Avocationist I know how you feel. I was like you once. I couldn't resist John's charm and witty repartee, but I found it was a smokescreen to ensnare me into considering the merits of his PEH. Don't do it. Don't go to ISCID and read that paper. I did and I am only just now being allowed out on my own again. Please feel free to email if you find the urge overwhelming. yours in recovery Alan

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2006,04:47    Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 13 2006,16:30) Avocationist I know how you feel. I was like you once. I couldn't resist John's charm and witty repartee, but I found it was a smokescreen to ensnare me into considering the merits of his PEH. Don't do it. Don't go to ISCID and read that paper. I did and I am only just now being allowed out on my own again. Please feel free to email if you find the urge overwhelming. yours in recovery Alan "My name is Arden. And today is my second day without John Davison". "Hi, Arden!" -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2006,04:55    Quote (avocationist @ Mar. 13 2006,13:34) What I find mystifying is why Arden Chatfield and stevestory and hehe and Sir toejam and all the rest of the unpublished lightweights over at the Bunker keep picking in poor David Stringer who, like them all, also has no credentials or publications, when they could be taking on a real honest-to-God published scientist like myself. Our John sure leaps to a lot of conclusions. As for myself, he feels safe in assuming 'Arden Chatfield' is my real name, that that's my real photo, and that I've never published. Seems a halfway decent scholar would be a tad more cautious about assuming that all his gut hunches are automatically true... You're right, tho, I'm starting to feel like we are going into a mental ward and laughing at the patients. Dave deserves this, I'm not sure JD really does. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Sanctum Posts: 88 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2006,06:15    Wesley R. Elsberry, thank you for the link to JAD's  comments. I have read only the first couple dozen, but I enjoy them very much. Why don't you give JAD posting privileges at Panda's Thumb where he can present and defend his evolutionary hypothesis?

Sanctum Posts: 88 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2006,06:19    Clarification: I did mean posting and not commenting or viewing privileges.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2006,06:21    Quote (Sanctum @ Mar. 16 2006,12:19) Clarification: I did mean posting and not commenting or viewing privileges. I also meant "for the" and not "fort he". You can go back and EDIT your posts, you know... -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2006,06:54    Sanctum, Read: Quote Davison was banned because of his predilection for off-topic comments that disrupted threads on PT. Repeat until enlightenment occurs. I understand that Davison has his own blog. Is there something that prevents him from doing whatever he likes there? -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Sanctum Posts: 88 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2006,07:49    I don't think there is anything stopping JAD from doing as he wishes on his own blog. I'm suggesting you add him to the community of scientists posting at PT. I understand that he had a history of disrupting threads with his OT ideas, but if he posted his own topic that would not be a problem. There, as a published evolution scientist, he could discuss the theory of evolution in a pro-science manner and defend/expose his views.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2006,07:53    I think there's some Panda's Thumb rule requiring contributors to be not completely insane.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2006,08:05    Quote I'm suggesting you add him to the community of scientists posting at PT. I seem not to be reaching you. Davison had ample opportunity to demonstrate that he could be an asset to the PT community, and took every such opportunity to prove that he was the exact opposite. He was banned for good reason, and nothing has changed that. So, no, don't expect Davison to be joining PT as a contributor. But thanks for the humor. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Sanctum Posts: 88 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2006,08:16    You're welcome. Humour could be another path to enlightenment, along with the repetition of mantras.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2006,08:22    Quote (Sanctum @ Mar. 16 2006,14:16) You're welcome. Humour could be another path to enlightenment, along with the repetition of mantras. Not usually, tho. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Sanctum Posts: 88 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2006,19:34    I have brought something here "From JAD" [Messages posted by proxy from banned users are not welcome here. Repeat offenders will be considered excessively annoying.] Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Mar. 19 2006,02:24

Sanctum Posts: 88 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2006,07:24    Sorry JAD. It appears there will be nothing more here from you. Anybody interested will have to visit you at http://prescribedevolution.blogspot.com/ good luck. If providing your address is annoying enough there may be nothing more from me either.

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2006,11:56    Sanctum You are DaveScot and I claim my five pounds. (This allusion may be wasted on non-British posters under the age of 60)

Sanctum Posts: 88 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2006,13:40    Hi Alan, First you thought I was JAD and now I'm Davescot? Sadly I am neither - no soup for you. Isn't identifying sock-puppets just fraught with pitfalls? You should have noticed I gave mattison far more credit and respect than Dave appears to. How's rehab?

sir_toejam Posts: 846 Joined: April 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2006,15:35    Quote What I find mystifying is why Arden Chatfield and stevestory and hehe and Sir toejam and all the rest of the unpublished lightweights over at the Bunker keep picking in poor David Stringer who, like them all, also has no credentials or publications, when they could be taking on a real honest-to-God published scientist like myself. lol. right.  I'm sure that was written AFTER I posted the link to my oldest article i just digitized.  It's listed on the second page of this very forum.  This is one of the primary reasons he was banned.  he simply refused to engage in any kind of meaningful conversation, and deliberately chose to ignore just about every piece of information we posted. JAD HAS NO HYPOTHESIS.  All he has is a ridiculous and unsupported conjecture (that's why it's officially listed as "crankiest" over on crank.net), based on some sort of psychic schism he experienced in the mid 80's.  Whatever happened to him, it resulted in suspension of his teaching and departmental priviledges at University of Vermont, and he has not published anything in any REPUTABLE journal since. any idiot can simply take a gander at his CV and see exactly where he nose-dived. enough already.

tacitus Posts: 118 Joined: May 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2006,16:30    Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 19 2006,17:56) Sanctum You are DaveScot and I claim my five pounds. (This allusion may be wasted on non-British posters under the age of 60) Well, I'm 42 and British and vaguely got it, so I asked my parents who are visiting from the UK and my Dad remembered the name " Lobby Lud" .  So I guess you are correct about having to be over 60

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2006,16:34    Quote What I find mystifying is why Arden Chatfield and stevestory and hehe and Sir toejam and all the rest of the unpublished lightweights over at the Bunker keep picking in poor David Stringer who, like them all, also has no credentials or publications, when they could be taking on a real honest-to-God published scientist like myself. My momma taught me it was wrong to make fun of the insane. She never taught me any such lesson about making fun of assholes. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

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