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dheddle Posts: 545 Joined: Sep. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,11:24    Quote (Louis @ Sep. 16 2009,11:07)       Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 16 2009,16:28)       Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 16 2009,10:16)           Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 16 2009,10:05) I've made the exegetical argument a gazillion times... WHAT IS THIS EXAGGERATIONAL ARGUMENT YOU TALK ABOUT? The exaggeration is this: Even without Yankee help, Rich Hughes and Louis wouldn't be speaking German. Times Two. Typical fundamentalist christian, can't tell the difference between fact and fiction as usual. Louis P.S. You get a D-, must try harder. WWII is soooooooo last century. Fact, why I'll show you a fact! Come visit me. We have facts within walking distance. I live in Yorktown Virginia! Does that mean anything to ya? Do the facts surrender and Cornwallis ring a bell? Huh? How do you like them facts? Now, about WWII being so long ago--let's see--some sort of yard stick would come in handy--what can we use. Oh: • WWII ends, thanks to Yankee bravery, industrial strength, and scientific might*: 1945 • Fred Perry is the last Englishman to win the men's singles at Wimbledon: 1935 Hmm. I guess you're right--it was a long time ago! --------------- * And the fact that God was on our side. ---------- EDIT: Yes I edited. Added the footnote about God. -------------- Mysticism is a rational enterprise. Religion is not. The mystic has recognized something about the nature of consciousness prior to thought, and this recognition is susceptible to rational discussion. The mystic has reason for what he believes, and these reasons are empirical. --Sam Harris

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,13:32    Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 16 2009,17:24) Quote (Louis @ Sep. 16 2009,11:07)       Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 16 2009,16:28)         Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 16 2009,10:16)           Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 16 2009,10:05) I've made the exegetical argument a gazillion times... WHAT IS THIS EXAGGERATIONAL ARGUMENT YOU TALK ABOUT? The exaggeration is this: Even without Yankee help, Rich Hughes and Louis wouldn't be speaking German. Times Two. Typical fundamentalist christian, can't tell the difference between fact and fiction as usual. Louis P.S. You get a D-, must try harder. WWII is soooooooo last century. Fact, why I'll show you a fact! Come visit me. We have facts within walking distance. I live in Yorktown Virginia! Does that mean anything to ya? Do the facts surrender and Cornwallis ring a bell? Huh? How do you like them facts? Now, about WWII being so long ago--let's see--some sort of yard stick would come in handy--what can we use. Oh: • WWII ends, thanks to Yankee bravery, industrial strength, and scientific might*: 1945 • Fred Perry is the last Englishman to win the men's singles at Wimbledon: 1935 Hmm. I guess you're right--it was a long time ago! --------------- * And the fact that God was on our side. ---------- EDIT: Yes I edited. Added the footnote about God. 1) The Colonials cheated in the War of Not Being English. They fought at teatime and weekends, which no true gentleman would do. 2) The French helped. Did you hear that Americans? Our tactical withdrawal* in the War of Not Being English, that you cheated at, saved you from being a French colony. Whilst it might have been nice to hold onto the colonies it was far nicer to bring everyone home and annoy the French in some wars on a proper continent. Fuck you and your Freedom Fries! 3) God was on the Nazi's side, they had belt buckles displaying it and everything, that's why they lost. 4) We had Alan Turing. We won because of him. So nyah nyah nyah nyah. It might have been a little slower without you, but we'd have got there in the end just like WWI where the Yanks barely turned up. And you were late both times. Louis *Some historians, deluded fools that they are, refer to this as a "loss" or a "surrender" or a "total capitulation in the face of overwhelming odds". They miss the point that beating up the French at home is more fun than beating up Americans abroad. -------------- Bye.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,13:38    Oh and who the hell cares about tennis? It's called "woolly balls" for a reason. Find a proper sport. When's the last time you beat us at rugby or cricket? Not "American Football"* or "Baseball"**, but real sports played outside the USA by lots of important folks like the Aussies***. Louis * A game of badly played rugby for homosexualist motorcycle couriers who are afraid of getting hurt and have to wear pads. ** Badly played cricket for people who can't manage a full test match length sport. *** I have made the point before that colonials frequently misunderstand the true nature of a test match. It is a test of manners. If they beat us then, as we are the inventors of the sport, they clearly haven't been playing properly and thus have failed the test of manners we set them. -------------- Bye.

bfish Posts: 267 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,14:42    Quote (Louis @ Sep. 16 2009,11:38) Not "American Football"* or "Baseball"** ** Badly played cricket for people who can't manage a full test match length sport. OK, I have a question. A sincere question, born of ignorance. Is there a role for defense in cricket? Not pitching (er, bowling, or whatever it's properly called), but defense AFTER a "ball" or "sphere" or "whozit" has been struck by that wooden flat thingy. Do there exist players who excel at defense, and are they useful? Edited to add: and if there are, could you link to some YouTubes of great cricket defense? I want to see it.

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,14:50    Quote (bfish @ Sep. 16 2009,14:42)   Quote (Louis @ Sep. 16 2009,11:38) Not "American Football"* or "Baseball"** ** Badly played cricket for people who can't manage a full test match length sport. OK, I have a question. A sincere question, born of ignorance. Is there a role for defense in cricket? Not pitching (er, bowling, or whatever it's properly called), but defense AFTER a "ball" or "sphere" or "whozit" has been struck by that wooden flat thingy. Do there exist players who excel at defense, and are they useful? Edited to add: and if there are, could you link to some YouTubes of great cricket defense? I want to see it. Do you mean the fielders? http://static.cricinfo.com/db/ABOUT_CRICKET/fielding-positions.pdf ETA: There are only 11 people in a cricket team, so not all those positions can be covered at once. Part of the game is the strategy of positioning the fielders.

dheddle Posts: 545 Joined: Sep. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,15:12    Quote (Louis @ Sep. 16 2009,13:38) Oh and who the hell cares about tennis? It's called "woolly balls" for a reason. Find a proper sport. When's the last time you beat us at rugby or cricket? Not "American Football"* or "Baseball"**, but real sports played outside the USA by lots of important folks like the Aussies***. Louis * A game of badly played rugby for homosexualist motorcycle couriers who are afraid of getting hurt and have to wear pads. ** Badly played cricket for people who can't manage a full test match length sport. *** I have made the point before that colonials frequently misunderstand the true nature of a test match. It is a test of manners. If they beat us then, as we are the inventors of the sport, they clearly haven't been playing properly and thus have failed the test of manners we set them. Are you kidding? Rugby players are, by comparison to American football players, sissies. Take, for example, football  helmets. Using the same logic that suggests beer should be consumed at room temperature, you conclude that they are protection. They are not--they're  deadly weapons that transform a sedate game like Rugby into a death match. No Rugby player would ram his head at 25 mph* into the back of another player. But in football that happens--a polycarbonate instrument O' death (the helmet) is directed into the opponent's kidneys at high velocity. Why, your average Rugby player would run and hide.   As for international competition, I notice you didn't ask about soccer (yeah that's right, soccer) we beat you in your own boring national game, soccer. We probably didn't even know the rules, and we won anyway. When is that last time you beat us in our national game? We beat you in wars and in soccer. You have rodent mothers and your fathers smell of elderberries. Your food sucks. USA, USA!  (I admit Wales is a much cooler place, and it does produce beautiful women who also happen to be smart enough to marry the winners!) ------------------------ * Since they are all fat white guys, none of them can run that fast anyhoo. -------------- Mysticism is a rational enterprise. Religion is not. The mystic has recognized something about the nature of consciousness prior to thought, and this recognition is susceptible to rational discussion. The mystic has reason for what he believes, and these reasons are empirical. --Sam Harris

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,15:16    Quote (bfish @ Sep. 16 2009,20:42) Quote (Louis @ Sep. 16 2009,11:38) Not "American Football"* or "Baseball"** ** Badly played cricket for people who can't manage a full test match length sport. OK, I have a question. A sincere question, born of ignorance. Is there a role for defense in cricket? Not pitching (er, bowling, or whatever it's properly called), but defense AFTER a "ball" or "sphere" or "whozit" has been struck by that wooden flat thingy. Do there exist players who excel at defense, and are they useful? Edited to add: and if there are, could you link to some YouTubes of great cricket defense? I want to see it. Yes, defence is what surrounds many cricket grounds to keep out the riff raff. Glad to be of help. No need for thanks. Louis P.S. What Steve said. The positioning and athleticism of the fielders (who have to make catches/stumpings to get batsmen out) is the defence aspect of cricket. There are other elements for use against nasty bodyline bowlers and such, but those are advanced topics which we can only tell you about after you have joined the MCC* and know the special handshake. * Marylebone Cricket Club. An institution more secretive, arcane and elitist than the Illuminati/Bilderbergers/Masons etc. -------------- Bye.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,15:23    Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 16 2009,21:12) [SNIP Nonsense] No Rugby player would ram his head at 25 mph* into the back of another player. But in football that happens--a polycarbonate instrument O' death (the helmet) is directed into the opponent's kidneys at high velocity. Why, your average Rugby player would run and hide.   [SNIP irrelevancies about soccer, an utterly pointless game, and Wales, an utterly pointless principality] Ok, I know we're joking and all, but I've heard this piece of nonsense from Americans before. It is simply untrue. Watch rugby for a season and you'll see plenty of this kind of thing sans helmet. And a lot worse besides. You'll also see very fast gentlemen of many ethnic backgrounds. I know you consider it optional to be minimally informed before holding forth on a subject, but really Heddle, this is bad even for you. Anyway, American footballers keep stopping and swapping teams over and the like. I could make some allusion about them nipping into the changing rooms to make sweet man-love to each other, but I am far too classy to descend to this kind of senseless national bickering. After all I am an Englishman and a European and therefore better. Not better at anything per se, just better. You wouldn't understand. Louis -------------- Bye.

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,15:27    Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 16 2009,13:12) Are you kidding? Rugby players are, by comparison to American football players, sissies. Take, for example, football  helmets. Using the same logic that suggests beer should be consumed at room temperature, you conclude that they are protection. They are not--they're  deadly weapons that transform a sedate game like Rugby into a death match. No Rugby player would ram his head at 25 mph* into the back of another player. But in football that happens--a polycarbonate instrument O' death (the helmet) is directed into the opponent's kidneys at high velocity. Why, your average Rugby player would run and hide.   I see.  The national sport consists of 300lb people running head-first into each other.  Finally, a lucid explanation of the last fifty years of US foreign policy. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

someotherguy Posts: 398 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,15:28    Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 16 2009,15:12) Quote (Louis @ Sep. 16 2009,13:38) Oh and who the hell cares about tennis? It's called "woolly balls" for a reason. Find a proper sport. When's the last time you beat us at rugby or cricket? Not "American Football"* or "Baseball"**, but real sports played outside the USA by lots of important folks like the Aussies***. Louis * A game of badly played rugby for homosexualist motorcycle couriers who are afraid of getting hurt and have to wear pads. ** Badly played cricket for people who can't manage a full test match length sport. *** I have made the point before that colonials frequently misunderstand the true nature of a test match. It is a test of manners. If they beat us then, as we are the inventors of the sport, they clearly haven't been playing properly and thus have failed the test of manners we set them. We beat you in wars and in soccer. You have rodent mothers and your fathers smell of elderberries. Your food sucks. USA, USA!  (I admit Wales is a much cooler place, and it does produce beautiful women who also happen to be smart enough to marry the winners!) Oh shit.  Heddle just said something nice about the Welsh.  This will not end well. -------------- Evolander in training

Stanton Posts: 266 Joined: Jan. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,15:52    Quote (someotherguy @ Sep. 16 2009,15:28) Oh shit.  Heddle just said something nice about the Welsh.  This will not end well. All's welsh that ends welsh. Edited by Lou FCD on Sep. 16 2009,17:07

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,16:47    Quote (bfish @ Sep. 16 2009,14:42)     Quote (Louis @ Sep. 16 2009,11:38) Not "American Football"* or "Baseball"** ** Badly played cricket for people who can't manage a full test match length sport. OK, I have a question. A sincere question, born of ignorance. Is there a role for defense in cricket? Not pitching (er, bowling, or whatever it's properly called), but defense AFTER a "ball" or "sphere" or "whozit" has been struck by that wooden flat thingy. Do there exist players who excel at defense, and are they useful? Edited to add: and if there are, could you link to some YouTubes of great cricket defense? I want to see it. Try here. Edited to add: Any good?

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,17:51    Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 16 2009,11:24)   Quote (Louis @ Sep. 16 2009,11:07)         Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 16 2009,16:28)           Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 16 2009,10:16)             Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 16 2009,10:05) I've made the exegetical argument a gazillion times... WHAT IS THIS EXAGGERATIONAL ARGUMENT YOU TALK ABOUT? The exaggeration is this: Even without Yankee help, Rich Hughes and Louis wouldn't be speaking German. Times Two. Typical fundamentalist christian, can't tell the difference between fact and fiction as usual. Louis P.S. You get a D-, must try harder. WWII is soooooooo last century. Fact, why I'll show you a fact! Come visit me. We have facts within walking distance. I live in Yorktown Virginia! Does that mean anything to ya? Do the facts surrender and Cornwallis ring a bell? Huh? How do you like them facts? Now, about WWII being so long ago--let's see--some sort of yard stick would come in handy--what can we use. Oh: • WWII ends, thanks to Yankee bravery, industrial strength, and scientific might*: 1945 • Fred Perry is the last Englishman to win the men's singles at Wimbledon: 1935 Hmm. I guess you're right--it was a long time ago! --------------- * And the fact that God was on our side. ---------- EDIT: Yes I edited. Added the footnote about God. The war of 1812

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,18:09    Quote Whilst it might have been nice to hold onto the colonies it was far nicer to bring everyone home and annoy the French in some wars on a proper continent ok Louis, the first round's on you if we meet! I'll show you some french! -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,18:25    Quote (Louis @ Sep. 16 2009,15:23) Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 16 2009,21:12) [SNIP Nonsense] No Rugby player would ram his head at 25 mph* into the back of another player. But in football that happens--a polycarbonate instrument O' death (the helmet) is directed into the opponent's kidneys at high velocity. Why, your average Rugby player would run and hide.   [SNIP irrelevancies about soccer, an utterly pointless game, and Wales, an utterly pointless principality] Ok, I know we're joking and all, but I've heard this piece of nonsense from Americans before. It is simply untrue. Watch rugby for a season and you'll see plenty of this kind of thing sans helmet. And a lot worse besides. You'll also see very fast gentlemen of many ethnic backgrounds. I know you consider it optional to be minimally informed before holding forth on a subject, but really Heddle, this is bad even for you. Anyway, American footballers keep stopping and swapping teams over and the like. I could make some allusion about them nipping into the changing rooms to make sweet man-love to each other, but I am far too classy to descend to this kind of senseless national bickering. After all I am an Englishman and a European and therefore better. Not better at anything per se, just better. You wouldn't understand. Louis Watch rugby league for class players at club level and union for international.   Union and League are different. A bit. Both are better than (USA) "football" though.

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,18:29    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 16 2009,18:09)   Quote Whilst it might have been nice to hold onto the colonies it was far nicer to bring everyone home and annoy the French in some wars on a proper continent ok Louis, the first round's on you if we meet! I'll show you some french! Do not forget your white flag. I doubt that you would, it is item 1 in any French survival kit.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,18:40    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 16 2009,18:09) Quote Whilst it might have been nice to hold onto the colonies it was far nicer to bring everyone home and annoy the French in some wars on a proper continent ok Louis, the first round's on you if we meet! I'll show you some french! FT4U. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,18:45    Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Sep. 16 2009,16:25) [quote=Louis,Sep. 16 2009,15:23] Union and League are different. A bit. Both are better than (USA) "football" though.   :D Well, there is the question of if any European players would be able to be on the field past the first few minutes. This would be a key issue as the American professionals are more used to long rest breaks filled by commercials. -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,18:56    Thought I would add a link to a conversation about religion that has not gone the same way I have come to expect.   http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/t=117249.html A tad different to what I have experienced here, UD and PT.

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1036 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,20:42    I would like to respond to this unfair remark by Louis: Quote 1) The Colonials cheated in the War of Not Being English. They fought at teatime and weekends, which no true gentleman would do. The only reason why we cheated is because you lot used our own Native Americans against us. Most unfair. However in the spirit of good fellowship I can only repeat what the father in Monty Python and the Holy Grail said: Quote Please, please!  This is supposed to be a happy occasion! Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who.  We are here today to witness the union of Arden and Richardthughes* in the joyful bond of the holy wedlock.  Unfortunately, one of them, my son Richardthughes**, has just fallen to his death.  But I think I've not lost a son, so much as... gained a daughter!  For, since the tragic death of her father-- etc. *Okay, I paraphrased this bit ** This bit too -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,21:20    Quote (Louis @ Sep. 16 2009,15:23) I know you consider it optional to be minimally informed before holding forth on a subject, but really Heddle, this is bad even for you. Oh, lighten up. Heddle's contrived machismo and posturing is all just compensation for his diminutive.........automobile*. * Not that there is anything wrong with a Honda Element.  Out here in Real America, there are any number of soccer mom's that drive them. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,21:34    it's like getting a new toy and it's broken in the box.   yawn at least y'all get to play grab ass a little.   i'm finding it amusing to watch this idiot talk like the high school algebra teacher trying to be hip with the kids.  even if he is slap full of shit and don't care who knows it.  i'd like to see him fight gordon mullings for the last word. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,21:43    Quote (Louis @ Sep. 17 2009,08:23) You'll also see very fast gentlemen of many ethnic backgrounds. Indeed. My country gets the benefit of the fact that various Polynesian countries do not have a combined rugby squad. It helps us win pretty much all the time. Erm - except for the past few weeks or whenever it's World Cup time. -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

bfish Posts: 267 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 17 2009,00:29    Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Sep. 16 2009,14:47) Is there a role for defense in cricket? Not pitching (er, bowling, or whatever it's properly called), but defense AFTER a "ball" or "sphere" or "whozit" has been struck by that wooden flat thingy. Do there exist players who excel at defense, and are they useful? Edited to add: and if there are, could you link to some YouTubes of great cricket defense? I want to see it. Try here. Edited to add: Any good?[/quote] Yes, those are just what I was looking for. Thank you very much! I enjoyed watching that. For American baseball, the fielders wear leather gloves. A century ago the gloves were very small, but they grew larger over the years. This enables some catches that could not be made with bare hands (or so I would have thought, anyway, until watching a couple of those cricket catches!) Baseball defense involves not only catching balls in the air, but also catching ground balls, and throwing, neither of which I saw on the cricket highlight video. Perhaps they are part of cricket as well. Major League Baseball, the organization, seems to have clamped down pretty hard on baseball-related video in the public domain, but here are a couple of famous baseball defensive plays: Look on this page for "The Flip." The runner is trying to score, and the outfielder's throw is off-target, but the Yankee shortstop runs across the field to intercept the throw, and flips it underhanded to the catcher just in time to tag the runner out. The replay may show better what happened, especially if you aren't used to watching baseball. Here is 1954's "The Catch," by one of the greatest baseball players, Willie Mays. The catch was made with his back to the hitter, approximately 420 feet away (130 meters). Wikipedia has a still shot. And here is the video. After making the catch, he whirled and threw the ball 300 feet back to the infield, preventing a runner from scoring. (You are allowed to run after a ball has been caught). Finally, here is a catch I had never seen before tonight, by the greatest ballgirl who ever lived. Wish I could dig up some video of Brooks Robinson and Ozzie Smith, but no such luck. Anyway, thanks for the cricket videos. And all of this, of course, proves that evolution is true. QED.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 17 2009,03:18    Quote (carlsonjok @ Sep. 17 2009,03:20) Quote (Louis @ Sep. 16 2009,15:23) I know you consider it optional to be minimally informed before holding forth on a subject, but really Heddle, this is bad even for you. Oh, lighten up. Heddle's contrived machismo and posturing is all just compensation for his diminutive.........automobile*. * Not that there is anything wrong with a Honda Element.  Out here in Real America, there are any number of soccer mom's that drive them. LOL I *was* being light and joking, didn't that come across? American footballers changing teams to engage in man-love between plays? Not a dead giveaway? Don't tell me I'm going to have to make things even more obvious, I'm not sure the fabric of spacetime could cope with even more leaden allusions.... Louis -------------- Bye.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 17 2009,03:28    Quote (afarensis @ Sep. 17 2009,02:42) I would like to respond to this unfair remark by Louis: Quote 1) The Colonials cheated in the War of Not Being English. They fought at teatime and weekends, which no true gentleman would do. The only reason why we cheated is because you lot used our own Native Americans against us. Most unfair. However in the spirit of good fellowship I can only repeat what the father in Monty Python and the Holy Grail said: Quote Please, please!  This is supposed to be a happy occasion! Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who.  We are here today to witness the union of Arden and Richardthughes* in the joyful bond of the holy wedlock.  Unfortunately, one of them, my son Richardthughes**, has just fallen to his death.  But I think I've not lost a son, so much as... gained a daughter!  For, since the tragic death of her father-- etc. *Okay, I paraphrased this bit ** This bit too We're allowed to cheat, we're British. Ask any of the other former colonies. We nip over, ask if they have a flag, when they don't we plant our own and then it's all ours, mwah ha ha haaa. Of course if they object we send in masses of the working classes, the Scots are always good for this, to slaughter/be slaughtered and generally make a mess. It's a technique we've used for centuries. Two birds, one stone. Americans should be familiar with this technique, they currently hold the licence for its use, with minor variations for style/modern sensibilities. Louis -------------- Bye.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 17 2009,03:30    Quote (Ptaylor @ Sep. 17 2009,03:43) Quote (Louis @ Sep. 17 2009,08:23) You'll also see very fast gentlemen of many ethnic backgrounds. Indeed. My country gets the benefit of the fact that various Polynesian countries do not have a combined rugby squad. It helps us win pretty much all the time. Erm - except for the past few weeks or whenever it's World Cup time. I've never understood what afflicts the Kiwis in major rugby tournaments. Until very recently when the Springboks took over, the All Blacks have been the undisputed number one rugby team in the world. Sort it out please. Louis -------------- Bye.

KenGee Posts: 53 Joined: Oct. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 17 2009,03:54    Football, football, what is all this talk of football, Pommy Football was invented for public schoolboys to past the time between dressing up as women. Yankee Football was invented to allow yank men to have log showers together and look for the soap. While Rugby is okay if you want to play a real game then Aussie Rules Football is the best. You can tell that because only the Irish will play us at it, and that’s only if we go easy on them. Baseball  might be worth watching if it went for a bit longer. As For cricket it is the greatest game on earth, and yes we Aussies do remember our manners sometimes and let the Pommies win. We do have to arrange for half our side to be missing. :D -------------- "Proteins are not produced by a chemical reaction, they are manufactured by machinery that is programmed through a base-four digital code. " Frilly Gilly on LIfe

Occam's Toothbrush Posts: 555 Joined: April 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 17 2009,03:54    Quote (carlsonjok @ Sep. 16 2009,22:20)     Quote (Louis @ Sep. 16 2009,15:23) I know you consider it optional to be minimally informed before holding forth on a subject, but really Heddle, this is bad even for you. Oh, lighten up. Heddle's contrived machismo and posturing is all just compensation for his diminutive.........automobile*. * Not that there is anything wrong with a Honda Element.  Out here in Real America, there are any number of soccer mom's that drive them. Apparently they are well received by trendy gay men as well.* ____ *Not that there's anything wrong with that! -------------- "Molecular stuff seems to me not to be biology as much as it is a more atomic element of life" --Creo nut Robert Byers ------ "You need your arrogant ass kicked, and I would LOVE to be the guy who does it. Where do you live?" --Anger Management Problem Concern Troll "Kris"

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 17 2009,04:25    The question, I have to ask with slightly more bewilderment than facetiousness, is whether biblical literalism is compatible with Christianity. Conversely, (i.e. with swapped proportions of etc etc) is biblical non-literalism compatible with faith-based systems such as Pastafarianism, Hinduism or Connacht Rugby? Edit to grammar fixing -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

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