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Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,13:49    qqq -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,13:49    zzz -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,13:55    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,13:49) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,13:27) My quote was to show that macro is not just an accumulation of micro, which is perfectly in line with the paper. LOL!  No it's not you jackass.  You didn't even look at the paper.  Here's the context of the quote-mine       Quote In other words, the results of the last 20 years of research on the genetic basis of adaption have led us to a great Darwinian paradox: Loci that are obviously variable within natural populations do not seem to lie at the basis of many major adaptive changes, while those loci that seemingly do constitute the foundation of many if not most major adaptive changes are not variable. The Case for De Nove Adaptive variation If the genetic material for major adaptive shifts [i.e macroevolution] is not present within species' gene pools, it must be provided by some sort of mutational events.  Evidence that just such events may accompany major evolutionary changes in Eukaryotes has come from some recent intra- and interspecific surveys of families of multiple copy DNA (references provided) Emphasis mine.   All the paper says is that the genetic basis for macro changes doesn't come from existing variations in the gene pool, it comes from new mutations.  This was relatively new knowledge back in 1983 when this article was written. Joke you are a dumbass to end all dumbasses.  :D Fuck you, loser. Unlike you I have read the paper. He does not provide any mechanism for producing macroevolution- "some sort of mutational event" is too vague to be of any use, you ignorant ass. He doesn't even know if any mutational even can produce macroevolution. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,13:58    And, by the way, you still don't have a mechanism capable of producing eukaryotes. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,14:10    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,13:55)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,13:49)     Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,13:27) My quote was to show that macro is not just an accumulation of micro, which is perfectly in line with the paper. LOL!  No it's not you jackass.  You didn't even look at the paper.  Here's the context of the quote-mine           Quote In other words, the results of the last 20 years of research on the genetic basis of adaption have led us to a great Darwinian paradox: Loci that are obviously variable within natural populations do not seem to lie at the basis of many major adaptive changes, while those loci that seemingly do constitute the foundation of many if not most major adaptive changes are not variable. The Case for De Novo Adaptive variation If the genetic material for major adaptive shifts [i.e macroevolution] is not present within species' gene pools, it must be provided by some sort of mutational events.  Evidence that just such events may accompany major evolutionary changes in Eukaryotes has come from some recent intra- and interspecific surveys of families of multiple copy DNA (references provided) Emphasis mine.   All the paper says is that the genetic basis for macro changes doesn't come from existing variations in the gene pool, it comes from new mutations.  This was relatively new knowledge back in 1983 when this article was written. Joke you are a dumbass to end all dumbasses.   Unlike you I have read the paper. He does not provide any mechanism for producing macroevolution- "some sort of mutational event" is too vague to be of any use, you ignorant ass. He doesn't even know if any mutational even can produce macroevolution. Liar liar pants on fire Joke.  I just provide the paper a few hours age.   The paper says the exact opposite of what your lying YEC quote-mined source says and what your dumbass claims.  It doesn't say there is a limit to created "kinds" which prevents macroevolution.  It IDENTIFIES the genetic basis for macro level changes. Every time we think you can't get any more stupid and dishonest you always find a way Joke.  An amazing skill you have.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,15:10    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,14:10) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,13:55)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,13:49)     Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,13:27) My quote was to show that macro is not just an accumulation of micro, which is perfectly in line with the paper. LOL!  No it's not you jackass.  You didn't even look at the paper.  Here's the context of the quote-mine           Quote In other words, the results of the last 20 years of research on the genetic basis of adaption have led us to a great Darwinian paradox: Loci that are obviously variable within natural populations do not seem to lie at the basis of many major adaptive changes, while those loci that seemingly do constitute the foundation of many if not most major adaptive changes are not variable. The Case for De Novo Adaptive variation If the genetic material for major adaptive shifts [i.e macroevolution] is not present within species' gene pools, it must be provided by some sort of mutational events.  Evidence that just such events may accompany major evolutionary changes in Eukaryotes has come from some recent intra- and interspecific surveys of families of multiple copy DNA (references provided) Emphasis mine.   All the paper says is that the genetic basis for macro changes doesn't come from existing variations in the gene pool, it comes from new mutations.  This was relatively new knowledge back in 1983 when this article was written. Joke you are a dumbass to end all dumbasses.  :D Unlike you I have read the paper. He does not provide any mechanism for producing macroevolution- "some sort of mutational event" is too vague to be of any use, you ignorant ass. He doesn't even know if any mutational even can produce macroevolution.  I just provide the paper a few hours age.   What an ignorant dumbass you are, timmy. The paper has been available for decades. Unlike you I have read the paper. He does not provide any mechanism for producing macroevolution- "some sort of mutational event" is too vague to be of any use, you ignorant ass. He doesn't even know if any mutational even can produce macroevolution. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,15:11    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,14:10) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,13:55)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,13:49)     Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,13:27) My quote was to show that macro is not just an accumulation of micro, which is perfectly in line with the paper. LOL!  No it's not you jackass.  You didn't even look at the paper.  Here's the context of the quote-mine           Quote In other words, the results of the last 20 years of research on the genetic basis of adaption have led us to a great Darwinian paradox: Loci that are obviously variable within natural populations do not seem to lie at the basis of many major adaptive changes, while those loci that seemingly do constitute the foundation of many if not most major adaptive changes are not variable. The Case for De Novo Adaptive variation If the genetic material for major adaptive shifts [i.e macroevolution] is not present within species' gene pools, it must be provided by some sort of mutational events.  Evidence that just such events may accompany major evolutionary changes in Eukaryotes has come from some recent intra- and interspecific surveys of families of multiple copy DNA (references provided) Emphasis mine.   All the paper says is that the genetic basis for macro changes doesn't come from existing variations in the gene pool, it comes from new mutations.  This was relatively new knowledge back in 1983 when this article was written. Joke you are a dumbass to end all dumbasses.  :D Unlike you I have read the paper. He does not provide any mechanism for producing macroevolution- "some sort of mutational event" is too vague to be of any use, you ignorant ass. He doesn't even know if any mutational even can produce macroevolution.  It IDENTIFIES the genetic basis for macro level changes. Liar. Unlike you I have read the paper. He does not provide any mechanism for producing macroevolution- "some sort of mutational event" is too vague to be of any use, you ignorant ass. He doesn't even know if any mutational even can produce macroevolution. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,15:16    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,15:10)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,14:10)   Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,13:55)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,13:49)         Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,13:27) My quote was to show that macro is not just an accumulation of micro, which is perfectly in line with the paper. LOL!  No it's not you jackass.  You didn't even look at the paper.  Here's the context of the quote-mine               Quote In other words, the results of the last 20 years of research on the genetic basis of adaption have led us to a great Darwinian paradox: Loci that are obviously variable within natural populations do not seem to lie at the basis of many major adaptive changes, while those loci that seemingly do constitute the foundation of many if not most major adaptive changes are not variable. The Case for De Novo Adaptive variation If the genetic material for major adaptive shifts [i.e macroevolution] is not present within species' gene pools, it must be provided by some sort of mutational events.  Evidence that just such events may accompany major evolutionary changes in Eukaryotes has come from some recent intra- and interspecific surveys of families of multiple copy DNA (references provided) Emphasis mine.   All the paper says is that the genetic basis for macro changes doesn't come from existing variations in the gene pool, it comes from new mutations.  This was relatively new knowledge back in 1983 when this article was written. Joke you are a dumbass to end all dumbasses.   Unlike you I have read the paper. He does not provide any mechanism for producing macroevolution- "some sort of mutational event" is too vague to be of any use, you ignorant ass. He doesn't even know if any mutational even can produce macroevolution.  I just provide the paper a few hours age.   The paper has been available for decades. LOL!  What a poor liar you are Joke.  You never saw the paper before today. Please quote the part of the paper with evidence for the limit of change for created "kinds" you say the paper offers. ***Everyone watch chickenshit joke refuse to answer and instead continue his bold all caps screaming of the same repeated stupidity.     -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,15:26    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,15:16) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,15:10)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,14:10)     Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,13:55)         Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,13:49)         Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,13:27) My quote was to show that macro is not just an accumulation of micro, which is perfectly in line with the paper. LOL!  No it's not you jackass.  You didn't even look at the paper.  Here's the context of the quote-mine               Quote In other words, the results of the last 20 years of research on the genetic basis of adaption have led us to a great Darwinian paradox: Loci that are obviously variable within natural populations do not seem to lie at the basis of many major adaptive changes, while those loci that seemingly do constitute the foundation of many if not most major adaptive changes are not variable. The Case for De Novo Adaptive variation If the genetic material for major adaptive shifts [i.e macroevolution] is not present within species' gene pools, it must be provided by some sort of mutational events.  Evidence that just such events may accompany major evolutionary changes in Eukaryotes has come from some recent intra- and interspecific surveys of families of multiple copy DNA (references provided) Emphasis mine.   All the paper says is that the genetic basis for macro changes doesn't come from existing variations in the gene pool, it comes from new mutations.  This was relatively new knowledge back in 1983 when this article was written. Joke you are a dumbass to end all dumbasses.  :D Unlike you I have read the paper. He does not provide any mechanism for producing macroevolution- "some sort of mutational event" is too vague to be of any use, you ignorant ass. He doesn't even know if any mutational even can produce macroevolution.  I just provide the paper a few hours age.   The paper has been available for decades. Please quote the part of the paper with evidence for the limit of change for created "kinds" you say the paper offers. I first read the article decades ago- at least two. Then when Ogre started mouthing off and lying about it- in reference to "Darwin's Doubt", I read it again. I have already told you why I referenced the paper, you ignorant infant. What the fuck is your problem? You don't even have a mechanism capable of producing eukaryotes. And given single-celled eukaryotes you don't have a mechanism capable of producing the genetic toolkit required to control the development of body plans. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,15:32    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,15:11) He does not provide any mechanism for producing macroevolution- "some sort of mutational event" is too vague to be of any use, Christ you lying dumbfuck in the sentence immediately after that one the author provides reference to two papers with the genetic evidence.   Quote , it must be provided by some sort of mutational events.  Evidence that just such events may accompany major evolutionary changes in Eukaryotes has come from some recent intra- and interspecific surveys of families of multiple copy DNA (35 42) 35) Dover et al The dynamics of genome evolution and species differentiation 1982 Genome Evolution, p343-372 42) Flavell Sequence amplification, deletion and rearrangement; major sources of variation during species divergence 1982 Genome Evolution, p301-323 You'll lie that fat ass off until your dying day Joke.  It's all you know.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,15:39    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,15:32) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,15:11) He does not provide any mechanism for producing macroevolution- "some sort of mutational event" is too vague to be of any use, Christ you lying dumbfuck in the sentence immediately after that one the author provides reference to two papers with the genetic evidence.   Quote , it must be provided by some sort of mutational events.  Evidence that just such events may accompany major evolutionary changes in Eukaryotes has come from some recent intra- and interspecific surveys of families of multiple copy DNA (35 42) 35) Dover et al The dynamics of genome evolution and species differentiation 1982 Genome Evolution, p343-372 42) Flavell Sequence amplification, deletion and rearrangement; major sources of variation during species divergence 1982 Genome Evolution, p301-323 Oh my. 1- Your side cannot account for eukaryotes. 2- Given single-celled eukaryotes your side cannot account for the genes that control the development of body plans 3- Speciation occurs absent of a change in the type of body plan 4- Your blind acceptance of those papers, while amusing, just further exposes your desperation 5- As YOU have said, science has advanced since the 80s- and guess what? It doesn't help you -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,15:50    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,15:39)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,15:32)     Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,15:11) He does not provide any mechanism for producing macroevolution- "some sort of mutational event" is too vague to be of any use, Christ you lying dumbfuck in the sentence immediately after that one the author provides reference to two papers with the genetic evidence.         Quote , it must be provided by some sort of mutational events.  Evidence that just such events may accompany major evolutionary changes in Eukaryotes has come from some recent intra- and interspecific surveys of families of multiple copy DNA (35 42) 35) Dover et al The dynamics of genome evolution and species differentiation 1982 Genome Evolution, p343-372 42) Flavell Sequence amplification, deletion and rearrangement; major sources of variation during species divergence 1982 Genome Evolution, p301-323 Oh my. Oh my indeed you lying sack of shit.  You offered that quote-mined hatchet job as your evidence for your stupid claim of limited descent with modification, remember?   Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 20 2019,15:38) You don't have a mechanism capable of producing anything beyond limited descent with modification.   Quote Loci that are obviously variable within natural populations do not seem to lie at the basis of many major adaptive changes, while those loci that seemingly do constitute the foundation of many if not most major adaptive changes are not variable.- John McDonald, “The Molecular Basis of Adaptation: A Critical Review of Relevant Ideas and Observation”, Annual Review of Ecology and Systematics: 14, 1983, p77-102 (bold added) You never read the paper and once again are squirming and floundering while trying to get that fat foot out of your mouth.       -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,15:55    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,15:50) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,15:39)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,15:32)       Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,15:11) He does not provide any mechanism for producing macroevolution- "some sort of mutational event" is too vague to be of any use, Christ you lying dumbfuck in the sentence immediately after that one the author provides reference to two papers with the genetic evidence.         Quote , it must be provided by some sort of mutational events.  Evidence that just such events may accompany major evolutionary changes in Eukaryotes has come from some recent intra- and interspecific surveys of families of multiple copy DNA (35 42) 35) Dover et al The dynamics of genome evolution and species differentiation 1982 Genome Evolution, p343-372 42) Flavell Sequence amplification, deletion and rearrangement; major sources of variation during species divergence 1982 Genome Evolution, p301-323 Oh my.  You offered that quote-mined hatchet job as your evidence for your stupid claim of limited descent with modification, remember?   Liar. There wasn't any quote-mine. There wasn't any hatchet job, except by you and it was only support AFTER I offered the evidence. 1- Your side cannot account for eukaryotes. 2- Given single-celled eukaryotes your side cannot account for the genes that control the development of body plans 3- Speciation occurs absent of a change in the type of body plan 4- Your blind acceptance of those papers, while amusing, just further exposes your desperation 5- As YOU have said, science has advanced since the 80s- and guess what? It doesn't help you The EVIDENCE is: timmy wants to know about limits- mechanisms, timmy- as in there aren't any known mechanisms capable of producing eukaryotes given starting populations of archaea and prokaryotes. Everything we know says that bacteria always give rise to bacteria. Sponges always give rise to sponges. Fish always give rise to fish. Fruit flies always give rise to fruit flies. You don't have a mechanism capable of producing anything beyond limited descent with modification. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,15:56    I first read the article decades ago- at least two. Then when Ogre started mouthing off and lying about it- in reference to "Darwin's Doubt", I read it again. I have already told you why I referenced the paper, you ignorant infant. What the fuck is your problem? You don't even have a mechanism capable of producing eukaryotes. And given single-celled eukaryotes you don't have a mechanism capable of producing the genetic toolkit required to control the development of body plans. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,16:07    As per usual when Joke's lies and stupidity are documented he responds with his BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING of his already rebutted nonsense.   How predictable.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,16:09    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,16:07) As per usual when Joke's lies and stupidity are documented he responds with his BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING of his already rebutted nonsense.   Wow. The reason it is in bold is because you have ignored it. You ignored it because it makes you look like a desperate lying bitch. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,20:04    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,16:09)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,16:07) As per usual when Joke's lies and stupidity are documented he responds with his BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING of his already rebutted nonsense.   Wow. The reason it is in bold is because you have ignored it. JokeLogic:  Repeating a lie in BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING adds to its truthiness.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,20:14    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,20:04) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,16:09)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,16:07) As per usual when Joke's lies and stupidity are documented he responds with his BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING of his already rebutted nonsense.   Wow. The reason it is in bold is because you have ignored it. Wow. The reason it is in bold is because you have ignored it. You ignored it because it makes you look like a desperate lying bitch. Notice no all cap- timmy juts cannot help itself. It has to lie -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,20:28    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,20:14)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,20:04)     Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,16:09)         Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,16:07) As per usual when Joke's lies and stupidity are documented he responds with his BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING of his already rebutted nonsense.   Wow. The reason it is in bold is because you have ignored it. JokeLogic:  Repeating a lie in BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING adds to its truthiness.   Wow. The reason it is in bold is because you have ignored it. More JokeLogic:  The more Joke repeats a lie in BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING the more truthiness it obtains   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,20:48    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,20:28) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,20:14)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,20:04)       Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,16:09)           Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,16:07) As per usual when Joke's lies and stupidity are documented he responds with his BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING of his already rebutted nonsense.   Wow. The reason it is in bold is because you have ignored it. JokeLogic:  Repeating a lie in BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING adds to its truthiness.   :) Wow. The reason it is in bold is because you have ignored it. You ignored it because it makes you look like a desperate lying bitch. Notice no all cap- timmy just cannot help itself. It has to lie More JokeLogic:  The more Joke repeats a lie in BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING the more truthiness it obtains   :) The truthiness of what I say is measured by your persistently ignoring it. Thank you -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,20:49    1- Your side cannot account for eukaryotes. 2- Given single-celled eukaryotes your side cannot account for the genes that control the development of body plans 3- Speciation occurs absent of a change in the type of body plan 4- Your blind acceptance of those papers, while amusing, just further exposes your desperation 5- As YOU have said, science has advanced since the 80s- and guess what? It doesn't help you The EVIDENCE is: timmy wants to know about limits- mechanisms, timmy- as in there aren't any known mechanisms capable of producing eukaryotes given starting populations of archaea and prokaryotes. Everything we know says that bacteria always give rise to bacteria. Sponges always give rise to sponges. Fish always give rise to fish. Fruit flies always give rise to fruit flies. You don't have a mechanism capable of producing anything beyond limited descent with modification. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,21:04    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,20:48) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,20:28)   Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,20:14)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,20:04)         Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,16:09)             Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,16:07) As per usual when Joke's lies and stupidity are documented he responds with his BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING of his already rebutted nonsense.   Wow. The reason it is in bold is because you have ignored it. JokeLogic:  Repeating a lie in BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING adds to its truthiness.   Wow. The reason it is in bold is because you have ignored it. You ignored it because it makes you look like a desperate lying bitch. Notice no all cap- timmy just cannot help itself. It has to lie More JokeLogic:  The more Joke repeats a lie in BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING the more truthiness it obtains   The truthiness of what I say is measured by your persistently ignoring it. Thank you Having everyone ignore your anti-science YEC stupidity doen't make it true Joke.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2019,21:14    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,20:49) You don't have a mechanism capable of producing anything beyond limited descent with modification. LOL!  It's the identical mechanism which produces descent with modification in every generation, only over more generations. 1+1+1=3 and 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 =10 Is that too hard for JoeMath to understand?   Joke your ignorance and stupidity really is boundless. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2019,07:29    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,21:14) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,20:49) You don't have a mechanism capable of producing anything beyond limited descent with modification. LOL!  It's the identical mechanism which produces descent with modification in every generation, only over more generations. 1- Your side cannot account for eukaryotes. 2- Given single-celled eukaryotes your side cannot account for the genes that control the development of body plans 3- Speciation occurs absent of a change in the type of body plan 4- Your blind acceptance of those papers, while amusing, just further exposes your desperation 5- As YOU have said, science has advanced since the 80s- and guess what? It doesn't help you The EVIDENCE is: timmy wants to know about limits- mechanisms, timmy- as in there aren't any known mechanisms capable of producing eukaryotes given starting populations of archaea and prokaryotes. Everything we know says that bacteria always give rise to bacteria. Sponges always give rise to sponges. Fish always give rise to fish. Fruit flies always give rise to fruit flies. You don't have a mechanism capable of producing anything beyond limited descent with modification. timmy Horton, scientifically illiterate asshole -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2019,07:30    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,21:04) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,20:48)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,20:28)   Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,20:14)         Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,20:04)         Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 21 2019,16:09)             Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 21 2019,16:07) As per usual when Joke's lies and stupidity are documented he responds with his BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING of his already rebutted nonsense.   Wow. The reason it is in bold is because you have ignored it. JokeLogic:  Repeating a lie in BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING adds to its truthiness.   :) Wow. The reason it is in bold is because you have ignored it. You ignored it because it makes you look like a desperate lying bitch. Notice no all cap- timmy just cannot help itself. It has to lie More JokeLogic:  The more Joke repeats a lie in BOLD ALL CAPS SCREAMING the more truthiness it obtains   :) The truthiness of what I say is measured by your persistently ignoring it. Thank you Having everyone ignore your anti-science YEC stupidity doen't make it true Joke.   :D 1- Your side cannot account for eukaryotes. 2- Given single-celled eukaryotes your side cannot account for the genes that control the development of body plans 3- Speciation occurs absent of a change in the type of body plan 4- Your blind acceptance of those papers, while amusing, just further exposes your desperation 5- As YOU have said, science has advanced since the 80s- and guess what? It doesn't help you The EVIDENCE is: timmy wants to know about limits- mechanisms, timmy- as in there aren't any known mechanisms capable of producing eukaryotes given starting populations of archaea and prokaryotes. Everything we know says that bacteria always give rise to bacteria. Sponges always give rise to sponges. Fish always give rise to fish. Fruit flies always give rise to fruit flies. You don't have a mechanism capable of producing anything beyond limited descent with modification. timmy Horton, scientifically illiterate asshole -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2019,07:34    Loci that are obviously variable within natural populations do not seem to lie at the basis of many major adaptive changes, while those loci that seemingly do constitute the foundation of many if not most major adaptive changes are not variable.- John McDonald, “The Molecular Basis of Adaptation: A Critical Review of Relevant Ideas and Observation”, Annual Review of Ecology and Systematics: 14, 1983, p77-102 Macroevolution is NOT just accumulations of microevolution. timmy Horton is a scientifically illiterate asshole -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2019,07:48    1 human + 1 human + 1 human = 3 humans No macroevolution there -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2019,08:43    An accumulation of mutations may give you an albino dwarf, with sickle-celled anemia, cleft chin and detached ear lobes. Still not macroevolution. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2019,08:47    Quote Why do Creationists always “forget” about the statistically biased nonrandom feedback from natural selection? Why do evoTARDs always forget that doesn't help them one bit? Whatever is good enough to survive and reproduce is the feedback. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2019,08:48    Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 22 2019,08:44) But the obvious inference is that Barry had been saying things he doesn't have support for. No, Barry is not an evoTARD -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

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