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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: July 27 2008,18:04   

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The Prescribed Evolutionary Hypothesis is a carefully crafted scientific alternative to Darwinism developed by renowned biologist John A Davison. It is an extension of Intelligent Design and states that "the information for organic evolution has somehow been predetermined in the evolving genome in a way comparable to the way in which the necessary information to produce a complete organism is contained within a single cell." [1] The theory has been published in the peer review journal Rivista di Biologia [2]

Linky

   
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2008,00:52   

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The Prescribed Evolutionary Hypothesis is a carefully crafted scientific alternative to Darwinism developed by renowned biologist John A Davison. It is an extension of Intelligent Design and states that "the information for organic evolution has somehow been predetermined in the evolving genome in a way comparable to the way in which the necessary information to produce a complete organism is contained within a single cell." [1] The theory has been published in the peer review journal Rivista di Biologia [2]

Linky

I'll be fucked until I am blue- they are charging down the same intellectual deadends as ARN, UD, and TelicThought.

This is great! Just great.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2008,07:55   

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www.conservapedia.com, teacher of precollege students


So that's conservapedia's readership!

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2008,12:15   

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The Prescribed Evolutionary Hypothesis is a carefully crafted scientific alternative to Darwinism developed by renowned biologist John A Davison. It is an extension of Intelligent Design and states that "the information for organic evolution has somehow been predetermined in the evolving genome in a way comparable to the way in which the necessary information to produce a complete organism is contained within a single cell." [1] The theory has been published in the peer review journal Rivista di Biologia [2]

Linky

I'll be fucked until I am blue- they are charging down the same intellectual deadends as ARN, UD, and TelicThought.

This is great! Just great.

You say that like you thought something different would happen.

So what's Wildman Javison up to these days? I don't hear anywhere near as much from the nutty old fart as I used to. I assume he still loves it so, and that the invitation to kiss his ass to a purple blister still stands?

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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2008,12:46   

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So what's Wildman Javison up to these days? I don't hear anywhere near as much from the nutty old fart as I used to. I assume he still loves it so, and that the invitation to kiss his ass to a purple blister still stands?

Why? You looking for a date?  HA HA THIS IS YOU



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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2008,13:42   

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Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 28 2008,12:15)
So what's Wildman Javison up to these days? I don't hear anywhere near as much from the nutty old fart as I used to. I assume he still loves it so, and that the invitation to kiss his ass to a purple blister still stands?

Why? You looking for a date?  HA HA THIS IS YOU




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Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2008,13:57   

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So what's Wildman Javison up to these days? I don't hear anywhere near as much from the nutty old fart as I used to. I assume he still loves it so, and that the invitation to kiss his ass to a purple blister still stands?


Assuming for the sake of argument this is a serious question, John still has his latest blog here. Note that he has progressed from the single-endless-thread format to the new, improved several-parallel-endless-threads format. He has also managed to goad a couple of responses from Springer over at ISCID, and accrued a few more bannings from several other websites. Not bad for an eighty-year-old.

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2008,14:11   

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So what's Wildman Javison up to these days? I don't hear anywhere near as much from the nutty old fart as I used to. I assume he still loves it so, and that the invitation to kiss his ass to a purple blister still stands?


Assuming for the sake of argument this is a serious question, John still has his latest blog here. Note that he has progressed from the single-endless-thread format to the new, improved several-parallel-endless-threads format. He has also managed to goad a couple of responses from Springer over at ISCID, and accrued a few more bannings from several other websites. Not bad for an eighty-year-old.

Well, as serious as anything having to do with Javison can be...

I see that most of his comments are from himself, and that VMartin is still his special friend.

Does he still call you Falan Ox?

Hey, never heard about this before (I know, it was probably discussed here):

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John A Davison said, on February 21, 2008 at 4:43 pm

Speaking of selective banishment, my papers have been restored on the side bar at Uncommon Descent, but I am still unable to comment freely there or defend them in any way. I have no password.

I recently received an email from David Springer inviting me to participate at Uncommon Descent but with the following qualifications. David Springer has created a “contibutor membership” in my name. I was intrigued by this and soon found out that the “devil is in the details.”

Springer explains - “As a contributor you can write articles under your own name and manage the comments. Any articles you write are saved as draft copies. An administrator has to approve the draft for publishing. If you want to write articles email me to get your drafts published. As long as it’s about science and isn’t offensive to evangelicals it’ll get published. A notable exception is the global warming topic. Dembski and I both believe it’s based on consensus science and I think you will agree science is not a democracy where the truth is determined by a majority…”

Without going further into the details, Springer indicated that if I did not comply he would remove my papers from the side bar.


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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2008,14:43   

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So what's Wildman Javison up to these days? I don't hear anywhere near as much from the nutty old fart as I used to. I assume he still loves it so, and that the invitation to kiss his ass to a purple blister still stands?


Assuming for the sake of argument this is a serious question, John still has his latest blog here. Note that he has progressed from the single-endless-thread format to the new, improved several-parallel-endless-threads format. He has also managed to goad a couple of responses from Springer over at ISCID, and accrued a few more bannings from several other websites. Not bad for an eighty-year-old.

Well, as serious as anything having to do with Javison can be...

I see that most of his comments are from himself, and that VMartin is still his special friend.

Does he still call you Falan Ox?

Hey, never heard about this before (I know, it was probably discussed here):

   
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John A Davison said, on February 21, 2008 at 4:43 pm

Speaking of selective banishment, my papers have been restored on the side bar at Uncommon Descent, but I am still unable to comment freely there or defend them in any way. I have no password.

I recently received an email from David Springer inviting me to participate at Uncommon Descent but with the following qualifications. David Springer has created a “contibutor membership” in my name. I was intrigued by this and soon found out that the “devil is in the details.”

Springer explains - “As a contributor you can write articles under your own name and manage the comments. Any articles you write are saved as draft copies. An administrator has to approve the draft for publishing. If you want to write articles email me to get your drafts published. As long as it’s about science and isn’t offensive to evangelicals it’ll get published. A notable exception is the global warming topic. Dembski and I both believe it’s based on consensus science and I think you will agree science is not a democracy where the truth is determined by a majority…”

Without going further into the details, Springer indicated that if I did not comply he would remove my papers from the side bar.

 
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Does he still call you Falan Ox?

Not to my face. Actually if we avoid the PEH, we do have some common ground. We both think climate change is a real phenomenon and David Springer is not a very nice person.

Regarding the dealings with Springer, I think Dave would like John to rejoin the ID fold, if only he would  behave with a bit more decorum. John, to his credit, will have nothing to do with Springer. Unfortunately John has been seduced, so to speak, by that Canadian siren and extraordinary wordsmith, Denyse O'Leary. See Overwhelming Evidence.

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2008,15:13   

http://www.iscid.org/ubb....70;p=92

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nosivad
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 posted 28. July 2008 06:06                    
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http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....;st=120

Please note that I have made the "big time" at After the Bar Closes, complete with the f word. It will be fun watching this unfold if Wesley Elsberry doesn't put a stop to any further commentary that is. I am betting that is exactly what he will do. Like Myers and Dawkins he is terrified of me and my sources. We are not allowed to exist.

It doesn't get any better than this.

I love it so!

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison  


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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2008,15:25   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 28 2008,15:13)
http://www.iscid.org/ubb....70;p=92

 
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nosivad
Member
Member # 767

 posted 28. July 2008 06:06                    
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http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....;st=120

Please note that I have made the "big time" at After the Bar Closes, complete with the f word. It will be fun watching this unfold if Wesley Elsberry doesn't put a stop to any further commentary that is. I am betting that is exactly what he will do. Like Myers and Dawkins he is terrified of me and my sources. We are not allowed to exist.

It doesn't get any better than this.

I love it so!

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison  

Tis true.  I took pictures that last time Davison was in town.  You can see for yourself Wes and Steve's reaction.



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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2008,15:30   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 28 2008,13:13)
http://www.iscid.org/ubb....70;p=92

   
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nosivad
Member
Member # 767

 posted 28. July 2008 06:06                    
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http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....;st=120

Please note that I have made the "big time" at After the Bar Closes, complete with the f word. It will be fun watching this unfold if Wesley Elsberry doesn't put a stop to any further commentary that is. I am betting that is exactly what he will do. Like Myers and Dawkins he is terrified of me and my sources. We are not allowed to exist.

It doesn't get any better than this.

I love it so!

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison  

Well, now we know that DAJ still loves it so, but the jury is apparently still out on the whole purple blister business.

I still haven't decided what my feelings are about them apples.

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dhogaza



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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2008,06:34   

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So that's conservapedia's readership! (pre-college students)

Conservapedia was created primarily to provide an "honest" reference resource for those who homeschool their kids, because Wikipedia is filled with falsehoods like, um, science.  And the original set of editors were kids being taught by Schafly.

This fits in with the fundy scheme of wrapping kids in a cocoon from K-12 (homeschooling with "appropriate" online and text resources) through undergrad and graduate school (Liberty U, etc).  If you brainwash them for more or less the first three decades of life (assuming one completes a PhD at Liberty), I guess they figure they're good for jesus for life.

  
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: July 30 2008,08:34   

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So that's conservapedia's readership! (pre-college students)

Conservapedia was created primarily to provide an "honest" reference resource for those who homeschool their kids, because Wikipedia is filled with falsehoods like, um, science.  And the original set of editors were kids being taught by Schafly.

This fits in with the fundy scheme of wrapping kids in a cocoon from K-12 (homeschooling with "appropriate" online and text resources) through undergrad and graduate school (Liberty U, etc).  If you brainwash them for more or less the first three decades of life (assuming one completes a PhD at Liberty), I guess they figure they're good for jesus for life.

Exactly so.  The strategy is to get them young, insulate them from the real world, and control their every thought process, until it is utterly impossible for them to think any way that hasn't been programmed into them.

"Front loading" of the intellect, sort of.  By the time they are set loose into the wild, they have a strong tendency to adhere to their programming, or so it's supposed to go.

It's interesting that even that doesn't always work.  (Although all too often, it does.)

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dvunkannon



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(Permalink) Posted: July 30 2008,09:46   

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So that's conservapedia's readership! (pre-college students)

Conservapedia was created primarily to provide an "honest" reference resource for those who homeschool their kids, because Wikipedia is filled with falsehoods like, um, science.  And the original set of editors were kids being taught by Schafly.

This fits in with the fundy scheme of wrapping kids in a cocoon from K-12 (homeschooling with "appropriate" online and text resources) through undergrad and graduate school (Liberty U, etc).  If you brainwash them for more or less the first three decades of life (assuming one completes a PhD at Liberty), I guess they figure they're good for jesus for life.

Exactly so.  The strategy is to get them young, insulate them from the real world, and control their every thought process, until it is utterly impossible for them to think any way that hasn't been programmed into them.

"Front loading" of the intellect, sort of.  By the time they are set loose into the wild, they have a strong tendency to adhere to their programming, or so it's supposed to go.

It's interesting that even that doesn't always work.  (Although all too often, it does.)

I see a strong analogy to living in a Communist country. People I know who grew up in FSU and China knew the government was lying to them 100% of the time and were deeply cynical (but at the same time open to a lot of woo from other sources). A friend from CZ said she spent her 16th year in terrible anxiety that the US was about to launch a nuclear attack on her country because the government news said so every night. (This during the Reagan era tiff about placing missiles in Germany.)

Coccooning doesn't work.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 30 2008,14:30   

Well, between the likes of Curtis LeMay (in the early cold war days-- Mr. "Let's nuke 'em before they nuke us"-- not to mention MacArthur wanting to use tactical nukes on the Chinese during the Korean kerfuffle) and on up to Ronnie Reagan's cowboy schtick, it wasn't like the US was sending nothing but warm and fuzzies in the direction of the Iron Curtain.  

It was a two-way street of course-- whilst I was being indoctrinated in the good ole Southern Baptist tradition as a youngster,  I remember many sermons (and the occasional sensationalist Christian propaganda audio-visual aid) detailing how Russia and China were clearly the Gog and Magog of Ezekiel, and that they weren't just opposed to us on political/ideological grounds, but they were serving the debbil-- and thus, expected to wipe us out at any time.

It was all very plausible given the time and circumstances, but once I started to think about it, and realize the horrendous cost to both sides, I was able to figure out that it wasn't likely to happen (unless someone really screwed up, and accidentally launched missiles, like that time when NORAD accidentally left some training vid on the screens and for a few minutes everyone thought it was the real deal).

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(Permalink) Posted: July 30 2008,15:00   

speaking of Gog and Magog, you can still hear that b.s. today.

I thought about putting this in the top tard quotes thread but it was just crazy more than tard-y.  hope you dig it!

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 04 2008,11:40   

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Last chance to edit Letter to PNAS re: the Lenski paper. The letter will be sent today, 2pm ET.


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dhogaza



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 04 2008,11:45   

Shit, we need a mole at PNAS ... I hope no one chokes to death on their coffee when they read the contents and break out into uncontrollable hysterics.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 04 2008,14:15   

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Shit, we need a mole at PNAS ... I hope no one chokes to death on their coffee when they read the contents and break out into uncontrollable hysterics.

I hope their response will be modeled on Lenski's superb second letter.



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angst



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2008,01:11   

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Anyway i think the discussions here have come to a dead point, so i think it would be good if you make up your mind to send the letter." Agreed 100%, if the letter isn't "near enough" right now then it will never be.--Toffeeman 15:20, 3 August 2008 (EDT)


 
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Agreed. Pull the trigger and see whose foot gets shot.--Argon 10:23, 4 August 2008 (EDT)


I predict a self inflicted wound.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2008,08:46   

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Anyway i think the discussions here have come to a dead point, so i think it would be good if you make up your mind to send the letter." Agreed 100%, if the letter isn't "near enough" right now then it will never be.--Toffeeman 15:20, 3 August 2008 (EDT)


   
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Agreed. Pull the trigger and see whose foot gets shot.--Argon 10:23, 4 August 2008 (EDT)


I predict a self inflicted wound.

That could be fatal for Andy, his feet rarely leave his mouth.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2008,09:29   

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Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (allegedly born in Honolulu, August 4, 1961)



allegedly!!!!

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2008,12:27   

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Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (allegedly born in Honolulu, August 4, 1961)



allegedly!!!!

Very clever of them to hint that Hussein Obama was actually born in Mecca...(and figure out that the Barack part of his name was just a cover).

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2008,13:29   

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Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (allegedly born in Honolulu, August 4, 1961)



allegedly!!!!

LOL. Reminds me of the scene in South Park where Johnnie Cochran says "Ladies and gentlemen of the supposed jury..."

The difference is South Park is intentionally ridiculous, and Conservapedia unintentionally ridiculous.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2008,22:07   

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The following flaws in this PNAS paper negate its claim that E. Coli bacteria evolved through a beneficial mutation:


This is the first line of the "letter" to the PNAS.  Negates the claim.

Yeah, right.

Apparently, the letter has been sent.  Fun will ensue!

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2008,22:38   

this discussion could use more linkiness.

   
Tulle



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2008,23:42   

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this discussion could use more linkiness.

Aye, more links. I like my tard fresh from the source.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2008,23:45   

Would you publish it, if you were PNAS?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2008,00:55   

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Would you publish it, if you were PNAS?

Maybe, but I'd wait until April 1st.

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