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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:44

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Not one paper deals with blind, undirected chemical processes producing anything.

Guess reading isn't a useful skill to having a high IQ (snicker).

Hey, Joe just pulled a Behe. �"I've never read them, but I know they don't refute what I'm saying."

I read the papers assface.

They do not support your claims nor your position.

Ok Joe, if that's the case then you won't mind going into precise detail about why that is.

Please, with examples and references, be as specific as you possibly can.

Thanks.

Louis

No Louis why don't YOU go into detail on how they support your position.

Please use examples and references and be as specific as you can.

Sorry Joe, you claim that they are wrong. �You claim that you are smarter than every person who actually does real science.

You have an extraordinary claim... you show it. �We're not doing you work for you.

Why don't you show us that math that you claimed was beyond me?*

Why don't you show that you know what you're talking about instead of be an insulting ass.

* Oh wait, I know, because it doesn't exist.

1- I do not claim they are wrong

2- I do not claim to be smarter than any person who actually does real science.

3- You assholes have the extraordinary claim- that our existence is a mere accident- yet you cannot support it.

IOW Ogre you are just a fucking pathological liar.

As for supporting ID I have done that on many occasions.

However it isn't worth posting that here because the people who run this septic tank have already changed my words- IOW this is a dishonest venuee and you chumps are proof of that.

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:49

Quote (Thought Provoker @ Nov. 25 2010,10:35)

Since nothing is going on over at Telic Thoughts, it looks like JoeG got bored enough to comment here.

Out of similar boredom I'm going to respond.

Back when I was still investigating ID I offered to debate JoeG on a level playing field, to compare his hypothesis to mine. �Since this took place on his Blog no one would be surprised that didn�t turn out well. While JoeG has modified a few things, his tactics and position remain the same, which is to define what he wants to argue against while claiming the default position.

His hypothesis can be �falsified� if, and only if, it is proven a metaphysical force is behind evolution.

JoeG�s tactic is pretty much the same as what Behe and Cornelius Hunter employ.

During the Dover trial, Behe testified that he concluded scientific papers did not contradict IC because a searched for the word �random� returned no hits.

Ironically, many ID proponents complain biologists are pushing a metaphysical concept, randomness, while simultaneously declaring there are absolutely no papers addressing it.

Ken Miller and most other scientists have no problem separating their metaphysical beliefs from the task of matching data to detailed scientific models. �And they do it without mentioning either God or randomness.

To preempt complaints about how a statistical observation of �random with respect to�� isn�t the same as claiming randomness was a cause, I understand that.

Apparently, JoeG either doesn�t understand that or is pretending he doesn�t.

Hi Dave! Are you still upset that you are a proven chump?

Do you think that your bullshit actually means something?

Ken Miller is a proven liar- are you proud of that?

Are you not aware of the fact that according to the theory of evolution all mutations and genetic changes are genetic accidents?

According to Monod humans are a mere accident.

Hawking says this universe is an accident.

IOW it is all metaphysical.

But anyways you are as clueless as ever...

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:49

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,16:44)

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However it isn't worth posting that here because the people who run this septic tank have already changed my words- IOW this is a dishonest venuee and you chumps are proof of that.

Bolding mine.

Evidence or STFU.

Louis

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:50

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,09:40)

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I looked at them and they do not do what you say they do

What do they say then? I don't believe you are capable of reading, let alone understanding a single one.
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IOW you are a liar.

Takes one to know one. The papers I referenced were about undirected formation of complex networks from interacting chemicals. Which is what you've been asking for all these years.
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Also I was talking about BIOLOGY and you failed to address that.

Just like how you failed to address my question regarding when does chemistry become biology? What's the cut-off point Joe? In case you have not noticed, you are made of chemicals. Right now. Yes, that's right! Chemicals!
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Not one paper deals with blind, undirected chemical processes producing anything.

So when I provide a paper (multiple papers in fact) addressing blind undirected chemical processes producing complexity you retort that it's not about BIOLOGY. Yet once does not normally talk about BIOLOGY in terms of the chemicals involved, rather you talk about the biological entities themselves, and the chemicals are a somewhat secondary thing to the function under discussion.

Examples of undirected chemicals forming complex networks are not about BIOLOGY so they are not evidence against your position according to you, but you don't talk about BIOLOGY when you make the claim about chemicals.

Here, let me fix that for you:
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Not one paper deals with blind, undirected biological processes producing anything.

If you say that, then that's easily dealt with. Hence your dishonest equivocation on CHEMICALS/BIOLOGY.

So, what is it Joe? What's your claim? That �undirected chemical processes cannot produce "anything" where "anything" is defined to be whatever you want it to be depending on the answer you are given?

If "Answer" = "Self-catalysing networks" then "Response" = "Not about biology".

Why ask about chemicals in the first place Joe then, if chemicals != biology?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:50

Quote (Louis @ Nov. 25 2010,10:49)

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,16:44)

[SNIP]

However it isn't worth posting that here because the people who run this septic tank have already changed my words- IOW this is a dishonest venuee and you chumps are proof of that.

Bolding mine.

Evidence or STFU.

Louis

The evidence is in the one thread I started.

The one I titled "ID is not anti-evolution" but some assface changed it.

IOW Louis you shut the fuck up you fuck...

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:51

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 25 2010,10:50)

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,09:40)

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I looked at them and they do not do what you say they do

What do they say then? I don't believe you are capable of reading, let alone understanding a single one.
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IOW you are a liar.

Takes one to know one. The papers I referenced were about undirected formation of complex networks from interacting chemicals. Which is what you've been asking for all these years.
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Also I was talking about BIOLOGY and you failed to address that.

Just like how you failed to address my question regarding when does chemistry become biology? What's the cut-off point Joe? In case you have not noticed, you are made of chemicals. Right now. Yes, that's right! Chemicals!
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Not one paper deals with blind, undirected chemical processes producing anything.

So when I provide a paper (multiple papers in fact) addressing blind undirected chemical processes producing complexity you retort that it's not about BIOLOGY. Yet once does not normally talk about BIOLOGY in terms of the chemicals involved, rather you talk about the biological entities themselves, and the chemicals are a somewhat secondary thing to the function under discussion.

Examples of undirected chemicals forming complex networks are not about BIOLOGY so they are not evidence against your position according to you, but you don't talk about BIOLOGY when you make the claim about chemicals.

Here, let me fix that for you:
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Not one paper deals with blind, undirected biological processes producing anything.

If you say that, then that's easily dealt with. Hence your dishonest equivocation on CHEMICALS/BIOLOGY.

So, what is it Joe? What's your claim? That �undirected chemical processes cannot produce "anything" where "anything" is defined to be whatever you want it to be depending on the answer you are given?

If "Answer" = "Self-catalysing networks" then "Response" = "Not about biology".

Why ask about chemicals in the first place Joe then, if chemicals != biology?

Fuck you asshole it is up to YOU to make your case.

You have failed to do so.

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:52

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,10:44)

However it isn't worth posting that here because the people who run this septic tank have already changed my words- IOW this is a dishonest venuee and you chumps are proof of that.

As opposed to your venue where you choose what posts to allow. And we can see how that's all worked out for you Joe.

One empty dead blog.

Bwhahahaha. You need us far more then we need you Joey!

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:54

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He's also got a real thing for baraminology. �But, you know, he's no creationist. No siree!

Maybe he's referring to baraminology of a different kind.

The only "thing" I have for baraminology is that I understand it and it seems that is all the evidence supports.

But I am perfectly OK with alien colonization, as opposed to divine intervention.

Bolding mine.

I think this is JoeJoe's major malfunction. It's the argument from personal incredulity....again.

Louis

Wow, that is lame even for an evotard.

Because I understand baraminology and you are ignorant of it that means I am engaging in an argument of personal incredulity?

Are you really that fucked up?

REALLY?

I didn't say I was ignorant of it. Tut tut JoeJoe. Lose 10 points and go back to troll school.

Louis

Louis it is obvious that you are just plain ole ignorant.

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:54

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,10:51)

Fuck you asshole it is up to YOU to make your case.

You have failed to do so.

I have. Then you stopped allowing my posts to go through on your blog. I can't make a better case then the papers I referenced, unless of course you want me to type them in one paragraph at a time into your blog.

IOW it's almost as if you are scared of an adult discussion.

IOW it's almost as if you simply don't read any paper that you are handed.

IOW it's almost as if your position is unchangeable. Like it's written down in a book and cannot be altered.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:54

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,16:50)

Quote (Louis @ Nov. 25 2010,10:49)

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,16:44)

[SNIP]

However it isn't worth posting that here because the people who run this septic tank have already changed my words- IOW this is a dishonest venuee and you chumps are proof of that.

Bolding mine.

Evidence or STFU.

Louis

The evidence is in the one thread I started.

The one I titled "ID is not anti-evolution" but some assface changed it.

IOW Louis you shut the fuck up you fuck...

Link or it didn't happen JoeJoe. Bald assertions prove nothing. You make claim, you demonstrate claim.

Just remember, asking for evidence is not the same as advancing a counter claim. I know, I know, that's hard for you to grasp, but try, it might hurt at first, but eventually you might be able to manage that simple thought.

Louis

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:55

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,10:54)

Louis it is obvious that you are just plain ole ignorant.

Being ignorant is fixable via education.

What you've got Joe, well, there's no cure for that.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger�s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:55

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 25 2010,10:52)

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,10:44)

However it isn't worth posting that here because the people who run this septic tank have already changed my words- IOW this is a dishonest venuee and you chumps are proof of that.

As opposed to your venue where you choose what posts to allow. And we can see how that's all worked out for you Joe.

One empty dead blog.

Bwhahahaha. You need us far more then we need you Joey!

Umm I don't need you.

I can watch South Park for my entertainment.

All you assholes are rolled up into Eric Cartman and Mr Hankey.

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:56

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,16:54)

Quote (Louis @ Nov. 25 2010,10:07)

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Quote (didymos @ Nov. 19 2010,18:41)

He's also got a real thing for baraminology. �But, you know, he's no creationist. No siree!

Maybe he's referring to baraminology of a different kind.

The only "thing" I have for baraminology is that I understand it and it seems that is all the evidence supports.

But I am perfectly OK with alien colonization, as opposed to divine intervention.

Bolding mine.

I think this is JoeJoe's major malfunction. It's the argument from personal incredulity....again.

Louis

Wow, that is lame even for an evotard.

Because I understand baraminology and you are ignorant of it that means I am engaging in an argument of personal incredulity?

Are you really that fucked up?

REALLY?

I didn't say I was ignorant of it. Tut tut JoeJoe. Lose 10 points and go back to troll school.

Louis

Louis it is obvious that you are just plain ole ignorant.

Really? Based on what evidence? Your say so? Forgive me but I doubt your say so carries any weight with any person, real or delusional, not already inside your own head.

And I'm sceptical even in that instance.

Louis

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:57

Quote (Louis @ Nov. 25 2010,10:54)

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,16:50)

Quote (Louis @ Nov. 25 2010,10:49)

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,16:44)

[SNIP]

However it isn't worth posting that here because the people who run this septic tank have already changed my words- IOW this is a dishonest venuee and you chumps are proof of that.

Bolding mine.

Evidence or STFU.

Louis

The evidence is in the one thread I started.

The one I titled "ID is not anti-evolution" but some assface changed it.

IOW Louis you shut the fuck up you fuck...

Link or it didn't happen JoeJoe. Bald assertions prove nothing. You make claim, you demonstrate claim.

Just remember, asking for evidence is not the same as advancing a counter claim. I know, I know, that's hard for you to grasp, but try, it might hurt at first, but eventually you might be able to manage that simple thought.

Louis

OK loser here it is:

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....;t=6633

Ya see Louis refuting fucked up evotards is easy...

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:58

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However it isn't worth posting that here because

Any excuse eh Joe? Funny how it's "not worth" posting your killer evidence here, yet you are happy to post on this thread.

There's a word for that. Begins with H...

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:58

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,10:55)

I can watch South Park for my entertainment.

Yet here you are.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:59

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 25 2010,10:54)

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,10:51)

Fuck you asshole it is up to YOU to make your case.

You have failed to do so.

I have. Then you stopped allowing my posts to go through on your blog. I can't make a better case then the papers I referenced, unless of course you want me to type them in one paragraph at a time into your blog.

IOW it's almost as if you are scared of an adult discussion.

IOW it's almost as if you simply don't read any paper that you are handed.

IOW it's almost as if your position is unchangeable. Like it's written down in a book and cannot be altered.

Liar- you never supported anything and all your posts have gone through.

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,10:59

Joe is immune to reason. I really don't know what his deal is.

He doesn't claim to be a Christian, which is odd for a ID supporter.

So the only way to figure out if ID works is to show the evidence that supports it... which Joe is scared to do.

He still refuses to show the math... and I've been asking this for months. His one response was 'you're too stupid to understand'.

I also don't understand the papers showing show loop quantum gravity is a better choice than M-brane theory, but that doesn't stop Physicists from publishing them.

IOW, Joe, I have better chance of getting ID support out of my cat's litterbox than from you.

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Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,11:00

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However it isn't worth posting that here because

Any excuse eh Joe? Funny how it's "not worth" posting your killer evidence here, yet you are happy to post on this thread.

There's a word for that. Begins with H...

Yes I post but just to attack you fuck-head losers.

Buy a vowel you clueless twat...

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,11:00

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,10:57)

OK loser here it is:

Oh Noes, Joe has his own thread where he can post whatever he wants as many times as he wants!

CENSORSHIP! EXPELLED!

Joe, if you don't like the freedom you have here then I suggest you crawl back to UD where critics are banned just as you prefer.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,11:01

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,10:59)

Liar- you never supported anything and all your posts have gone through.

Untrue. And you *know* it.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,11:02

Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 25 2010,10:59)

Joe is immune to reason. �I really don't know what his deal is.

He doesn't claim to be a Christian, which is odd for a ID supporter.

So the only way to figure out if ID works is to show the evidence that supports it... which Joe is scared to do.

He still refuses to show the math... and I've been asking this for months. �His one response was 'you're too stupid to understand'. �

I also don't understand the papers showing show loop quantum gravity is a better choice than M-brane theory, but that doesn't stop Physicists from publishing them.

IOW, Joe, I have �better chance of getting ID support out of my cat's litterbox than from you.

How can I be afraid of doing something that I have already done?

I cannot force you to come to my blog and read it.

And I cannot force you to get "No Free Lunch" and look into the math.

But it is all there and all you have is to ignore it as if your wilfull ignorance is meaningful discourse.

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,11:02

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,11:00)

Buy a vowel you clueless twat...

Oh Noes! Evolution is on the ropes now! Joe said a rude word!

Hey, Joe, If ID is not anti-evolution how do we tell the difference between evolution and intelligent design?

Simple question.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,11:03

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 25 2010,11:00)

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,10:57)

OK loser here it is:

Oh Noes, Joe has his own thread where he can post whatever he wants as many times as he wants!

CENSORSHIP! EXPELLED!

Joe, if you don't like the freedom you have here then I suggest you crawl back to UD where critics are banned just as you prefer.

Thank you for proving that you are a pathetic little twat.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,11:03

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 25 2010,11:01)

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,10:59)

Liar- you never supported anything and all your posts have gone through.

Untrue. And you *know* it.

You are a liar and you know it- or perhaps you don't...

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,11:04

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 25 2010,11:02)

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,11:00)

Buy a vowel you clueless twat...

Oh Noes! Evolution is on the ropes now! Joe said a rude word!

Hey, Joe, If ID is not anti-evolution how do we tell the difference between evolution and intelligent design?

Simple question.

Geez asswipe I have been over that already.

Do you really think your ignorance is meaningful discourse?

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,11:06

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,16:57)

Quote (Louis @ Nov. 25 2010,10:54)

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,16:50)

Quote (Louis @ Nov. 25 2010,10:49)

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Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 25 2010,16:44)

[SNIP]

However it isn't worth posting that here because the people who run this septic tank have already changed my words- IOW this is a dishonest venuee and you chumps are proof of that.

Bolding mine.

Evidence or STFU.

Louis

The evidence is in the one thread I started.

The one I titled "ID is not anti-evolution" but some assface changed it.

IOW Louis you shut the fuck up you fuck...

Link or it didn't happen JoeJoe. Bald assertions prove nothing. You make claim, you demonstrate claim.

Just remember, asking for evidence is not the same as advancing a counter claim. I know, I know, that's hard for you to grasp, but try, it might hurt at first, but eventually you might be able to manage that simple thought.

Louis

OK loser here it is:

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....;t=6633

Ya see Louis refuting fucked up evotards is easy...

Refute what? I made no claim. I asked for evidence supporting your claim and you linked me to a thread. How does this link to a thread you made prove that someone here editted your words? If the evidence is in the thread link directly to it.

Louis

P.S. It is more than slightly amusing that you are incapable of understanding that asking for evidence of a claim does not equate to advancing a counter claim. Oh, and asking for evidence of something to do with a message board has nothing to do with evolutionary biology, just, you know, FYI.

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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,11:07

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How can I be afraid of doing something that I have already done?

Publish your evidence in the only venue that matters. Peer review.

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I cannot force you to come to my blog and read it.

Seems you can't force anybody to comment either. Funny that.

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And I cannot force you to get "No Free Lunch" and look into the math.

Been there, done that.

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The values of the factors arising in the NFL theorems are never properly specified in his analysis. More generally, no consideration is given to whether some of the free lunches in the geometry of induction might be more relevant than the NFL theorems (e.g., those free lunches concerning "head-to-head minimax" distinctions that concern pairs of algorithms considered together rather than single algorithms considered in isolation).

Indeed, throughout there is a marked elision of the formal details of the biological processes under consideration. Perhaps the most glaring example of this is that neo-Darwinian evolution of ecosystems does not involve a set of genomes all searching the same, fixed fitness function, the situation considered by the NFL theorems. Rather it is a co-evolutionary process. Roughly speaking, as each genome changes from one generation to the next, it modifies the surfaces that the other genomes are searching. And recent results indicate that NFL results do not hold in co-evolution.

http://www.talkreason.org/articles/jello.cfm

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But it is all there and all you have is to ignore it as if your wilfull ignorance is meaningful discourse.

Swallowing claims whole without critical analysis is what you do Joe, don't expect the people here to repeat your mistake. It's a somewhat different class of person here then in your ID world where the claims of Behe, Dembski etc are met with uncritical praise.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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if there are even critical flaws in Gauger�s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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Posted: Nov. 25 2010,11:08

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Liar- you never supported anything and all your posts have gone through.

Untrue. And you *know* it.

You are a liar and you know it- or perhaps you don't...

Joe, you never posted my last couple of posts and you know it. Say what you want, but I think I'll be believed and you won't. Here anyway.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger�s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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