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Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,14:58    Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,12:34) What are you talking about, I answer questions on a daily basis whenever I make a blog. I always answer questions. I suspect you imaine you make art every time you make a turd.  I had a dog like that, he seemed to take great pride in his turds, especially when he shat in another dog's yard. He would run around and come back to give them a good sniff. He seemed indignant when I cleaned them up. Alot like you in fact. Of course, you make blogs too, and boogers. Your delusions of adequacy must be crippling. Same ol' same ol'. Edited to change "buggers" to "boogers." Neatness counts. Edited again to not correct a spelling error, but merely to show that I could have edited to correct a spelling error if I felt like correcting a spelling error when I wanted to correct it. Edited yet again to point out that I don't want to correct the spelling error. But, I could have by using the editing function available to be becasue I can. Edited to correct one spelling error, but not the rest in cluding these and the other ones. Edited by Dr.GH on July 06 2008,13:05 -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,14:59    Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,14:54) how would you know that steve? Again, it is quite clear that you are scientifically illiterate. You wouldn't know a scientific revolution if it punched in the face. Yes, Steve, you should be arbitrarily ranking things form 1-5 and there should be 4 categories. Then add the scores and then waffle on about it for a while. THAT is how science is done. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Guts Posts: 226 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:00    Quote I suspect you imaine you make art every time you make a turd. No I meant what I said, the accusation was that I don't answer questions, in fact I answer many questions.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:00    Quote (Nelson @ July 06 2008,12:54) how would you know that steve? Again, it is quite clear that you are scientifically illiterate. You wouldn't know a scientific revolution if it punched in the face. Obsession with homosexuality -- check. Constantly resorting to violent fantasies against opponents -- check. "I know you are but what am I?" insults -- check. See, Nelson, this is why people say you come across like a petulant 15-year-old. Anyway, are you going to answer Albatrossity's questions? Show us all how scientifically literate YOU are.   Quote Unless you're not proposing a replacement theory, that is a fundamental flaw in your logic. You're dodging the question again, Nelson. If you're feeling backed into a corner, you can accuse us of 'faggotry' again. Won't impress anyone, but I assume you'll feel better. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Guts Posts: 226 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:02    I'm not dodging anything, that is a direct answer.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:02    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 06 2008,15:55) Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,12:51) When will I be cool enough to get an edit button. How's 'never' sound? As Guts is no doubt aware, IDers like to rewrite the past. They tried to do that here a few times, and so we had to take edit buttons away from new users.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:03    Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,13:02) I'm not dodging anything, that is a direct answer. So you refuse to answer Albatrossity's questions? -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

dnmlthr Posts: 565 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:03    Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,21:00)   Quote I suspect you imaine you make art every time you make a turd. No I meant what I said, the accusation was that I don't answer questions, in fact I answer many questions. Then one more can't be much of a hassle, can it? You've got several earlier in the thread to choose from. -------------- Guess what? I don't give a flying f*ck how "science works" - Ftk

Guts Posts: 226 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:03    You're projecting Steve.

Guts Posts: 226 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:04    Quote So you refuse to answer Albatrossity's questions? What part of "direct answer" don't you understand?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:05    Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,15:54) how would you know that steve? Again, it is quite clear that you are scientifically illiterate. You wouldn't know a scientific revolution if it punched in the face. Sadly, your revolution isn't going to be punching anyone in the face.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:06    Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,15:03) You're projecting Steve. OMG OMG OMG: YOU'RE PROJECT STEVE *squints* Oh. "I know you are but what am I?" Done many ID experiments, Guts? -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Guts Posts: 226 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:06    lol PCID was never an actual ID journal they invited all kinds of complexity theorists.

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:07    Is "guts" Nelson? The dawn appears. Edited to add (because I can): I was wondering if "guts" was DaveTard on speed. Edited by Dr.GH on July 06 2008,13:08 -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:08    Quote (stevestory @ July 06 2008,15:05) Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,15:54) how would you know that steve? Again, it is quite clear that you are scientifically illiterate. You wouldn't know a scientific revolution if it punched in the face. Sadly, your revolution isn't going to be punching anyone in the face. There's a new revolution in the works, Steve.  That'll show us! -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout »

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:09    PCID was never an ID journal? That's so dumb I suspect you aren't Telic Thoughts's Guts, but rather someone trying to make him look bad.

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:10    Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,14:56) Unless you're not proposing a replacement theory, that is a fundamental flaw in your logic. Was this addressed to me? If so, where's the flaw? Does classical mechanics still explain a lot of stuff?  Yes. Does quantum mechanics explain stuff that classical mechanics can't explain? Yes. Did quantum mechanics completely "replace" classical mechanics? No. Should a new paradigm explain things that the older paradigm can't explain? Yes. Does it have to replace it? No. Do some IDists want to replace evolutionary theory with ID? Yes. Will Nelson answer the question?  All signs point to no. But here it is again, in case the stench from all of your red herrings made you forget about it. What predictions have been made, on the basis of ID principles, that allowed experimental testing, and for which the results of those experiments supported ID and cannot be accommodated by evolutionary theory? -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:10    Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,15:06) lol PCID was never an actual ID journal they invited all kinds of complexity theorists. Real scientists rules out ID? -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Guts Posts: 226 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:11    Why do you think they invited Kaufmann and other self-organization theorists. You are quite ignorant.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:11    Quote (Dr.GH @ July 06 2008,13:07) Is "guts" Nelson? The dawn appears. Edited to add (because I can): I was wondering if "guts" was DaveTard on speed. Yeah, 'Guts' is Nelson's Internet-Tough-Guy name. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Guts Posts: 226 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:13    Albatrossity2, You cannot possibly take those examples from physics and make a general "law" out of it. Sometimes you will propose an extension to the theory that completes it, especially when you're talking about historical sciences, it just sheds things in a better light. You cannot possibly be serious with those examples from physics.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:13    Quote (Nelson @ July 06 2008,13:06) lol PCID was never an actual ID journal they invited all kinds of complexity theorists. So all those articles that HAVEN'T appeared in PCID are all by 'complexity theorists'. I see. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:14    nelson? -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Guts Posts: 226 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:14    Steve, Now it's quite clear that you are both scientifically illiterate and ignorant of basic facts.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:15    Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,13:13) Albatrossity2, You cannot possibly take those examples from physics and make a general "law" out of it. Sometimes you will propose an extension to the theory that completes it, especially when you're talking about historical sciences, it just sheds things in a better light. You cannot possibly be serious with those examples from physics. Another nonanswer, Nelson. Call us faggots. That'll show us. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:15    Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,15:13) Albatrossity2, You cannot possibly take those examples from physics and make a general "law" out of it. Sometimes you will propose an extension to the theory that completes it, especially when you're talking about historical sciences, it just sheds things in a better light. You cannot possibly be serious with those examples from physics. It's not a "law", strawboy. It's an example. What predictions have been made, on the basis of ID principles, that allowed experimental testing, and for which the results of those experiments supported ID and cannot be accommodated by evolutionary theory? [chirp chirp] -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Guts Posts: 226 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:15    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 06 2008,15:13) Quote (Nelson @ July 06 2008,13:06) lol PCID was never an actual ID journal they invited all kinds of complexity theorists. So all those articles that HAVEN'T appeared in PCID are all by 'complexity theorists'. I see. The journal never took off. I am not an insider so I don't know what happened and don't care.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:16    Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,13:14) Steve, Now it's quite clear that you are both scientifically illiterate and ignorant of basic facts. Well, you're about to start talking about science any second now, right Nelson? -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:17    Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,13:15) Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 06 2008,15:13) Quote (Nelson @ July 06 2008,13:06) lol PCID was never an actual ID journal they invited all kinds of complexity theorists. So all those articles that HAVEN'T appeared in PCID are all by 'complexity theorists'. I see. The journal never took off. I am not an insider so I don't know what happened and don't care. You don't care why a 'major' ID journal hasn't done anything in 2+ years? -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,15:17    something's gay, Frost is a liar, this is a 'piece of shit board', I'm scientifically illiterate....I would advise everyone to have some skepticism. This might not be the real 'guts'.

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