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GCT



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,08:17   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 13 2006,20:52)
Vintage DaveTard:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/1578#comments

     
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...Plunge asserts he is an outspoken atheist but he sure sounds like an outspoken agnostic to me. I find it a little irritating that atheist and agnostic are commonly conflated because that throws me into the atheist camp when in reality I am simply unsure one way or the other - in a no man’s land between theists and atheists.


emphasis mine

I've never understood how DT can be an agnostic (Edit: it originally read "atheist").  I mean, doesn't he know everything?  Isn't his IQ somewhere around 1,983,435,234,234,654 or something like that?  I mean, if you can score a 6800 on the SAT doesn't that mean you know all?  So, why doesn't he know if there is a god or not?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,09:57   

Quote (GCT @ Sep. 15 2006,13:17)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 13 2006,20:52)
Vintage DaveTard:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/1578#comments

     
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...Plunge asserts he is an outspoken atheist but he sure sounds like an outspoken agnostic to me. I find it a little irritating that atheist and agnostic are commonly conflated because that throws me into the atheist camp when in reality I am simply unsure one way or the other - in a no man’s land between theists and atheists.


emphasis mine

I've never understood how DT can be an atheist.  I mean, doesn't he know everything?  Isn't his IQ somewhere around 1,983,435,234,234,654 or something like that?  I mean, if you can score a 6800 on the SAT doesn't that mean you know all?  So, why doesn't he know if there is a god or not?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,10:27   

Fortunately, I had recalibrated my trusty irony meter just before reading this post by Dennis:
   
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To me, the really interesting aspect of this whole exchange is why it should matter so much to some people whether Hitler was a Darwinist, a creationist, or something else. After all, what if Pol Pot was a Darwinist and Idi Amin a creationist? Do we think the better or the worse of mass murderers on such an account?

There really is nothing to say to this.

By the way, I've been a long time lurker here.  Recently, however, I've been finding the level of disingenuity, stupidity and sheer wickedness at Uncommon Descent impossible to take without an opportunity to vent about it.  My wife has grown tired of hearing me, so I'm posting here now.  Putting it like that, it does make me wonder why I can't just stop visiting such a wretched intellectual train-wreck in the first place... ???

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,10:40   

[quote=Altabin,Sep. 15 2006,15:27][/quote]
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By the way, I've been a long time lurker here.  Recently, however, I've been finding the level of disingenuity, stupidity and sheer wickedness at Uncommon Descent impossible to take without an opportunity to vent about it.  My wife has grown tired of hearing me, so I'm posting here now.


Welcome. Posting here should make you feel better. Also keep in mind that DaveScot reads this thread regularly, so UD actually does respond to this blog, in a sort of covert way. Particularly, when Dave makes an especially egregious error, he often pisses up his back and tries to fudge what he said based on the corrections and derision posted here.

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Putting it like that, it does make me wonder why I can't just stop visiting such a wretched intellectual train-wreck in the first place... ???


It's like a scab you can't stop picking, or like a loose tooth you can't quit fiddling with.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,10:42   

Trouble at t'mill.

Someone is questioning the all-knowing one.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/1613#comment-61548

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,10:43   

Quote (Altabin @ Sep. 15 2006,15:27)
Putting it like that, it does make me wonder why I can't just stop visiting such a wretched intellectual train-wreck in the first place... ???

Internet message boards are wickedly addictive, I am afraid.  I know, I helped run a couple :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,10:45   

I started a blog, and rant into that about their idocy. And post here still!
The o'leary posts are like some sort of dementia inducing visual   narcotic.
They should read them out at riots, nobody would be able to concentrate on fighting as they'd be too busy trying to work out what point she's trying to make as she's so obtuse (or just incapable of stringing worlds together in the same way everybody else is!;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,10:56   

Quote (keiths @ Sep. 15 2006,01:52)
My suggestion is to join the ACLU and/or AU, or to make another donation if you're already a member.  

I joined both organizations largely because of what I witnessed at UD.

Likewise. I'd been meaning to join ACLU for a while but somehow never got around to it. Finally some neo-fascist anti-ACLU tantrum on Dave's part early last Summer drove me to get off my ass and join. I'm now one of Dave's super-villains, a "card-carrying member".

Thanks, Dave!

PS: I haven't yet noticed the big flood of junk mail Steve mentioned.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,12:46   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 15 2006,16:45)
I started a blog, and rant into that about their idocy. And post here still!
The o'leary posts are like some sort of dementia inducing visual   narcotic.
They should read them out at riots, nobody would be able to concentrate on fighting as they'd be too busy trying to work out what point she's trying to make as she's so obtuse (or just incapable of stringing worlds together in the same way everybody else is!;)

O'Leary's a bit like Peggy Hill.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,12:56   

Quote (Altabin @ Sep. 15 2006,16:27)
By the way, I've been a long time lurker here.  Recently, however, I've been finding the level of disingenuity, stupidity and sheer wickedness at Uncommon Descent impossible to take without an opportunity to vent about it.  My wife has grown tired of hearing me, so I'm posting here now.  Putting it like that, it does make me wonder why I can't just stop visiting such a wretched intellectual train-wreck in the first place... ???

First, good to have you. Second, it's important to not let it get to you. I recommend reading the entire Kitzmiller opinion by Judge Jones. The spectacle of ID getting a 130-page beatdown from a conservative christian judge will help to impress upon you how doomed the Uncommonly Dense are.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,13:00   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 15 2006,16:56)
PS: I haven't yet noticed the big flood of junk mail Steve mentioned.

Weird. I don't mind it, it's quite nice to have free return labels with pretty butterflies or puppies on them.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,13:37   

More trouble at t'mill, DaveScot writes:
   
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Barry
If one kills an animal in a humane way, one does not go to jail.

Oh yeah?

Go humanely kill a few spotted owls or bald eagles and see where it gets you.

Or go to the San Diego Zoo and humanly kill some of the animals there and see if you can avoid jail.

Oh how about this - go to the home of a judge you know and humanely kill his dog. See if that lands you in the hoosegow or not.

A quick google indicates you probably better not try these in Georgia as there’s no question as to the risk of incarceration. Your answers in this thread have been rather shallow. I suggest you exercise a modicum of due diligence or remain silent.*


*emphasis added.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,13:43   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 15 2006,12:56)
Quote (Altabin @ Sep. 15 2006,16:27)
By the way, I've been a long time lurker here.  Recently, however, I've been finding the level of disingenuity, stupidity and sheer wickedness at Uncommon Descent impossible to take without an opportunity to vent about it.  My wife has grown tired of hearing me, so I'm posting here now.  Putting it like that, it does make me wonder why I can't just stop visiting such a wretched intellectual train-wreck in the first place... ???

First, good to have you. Second, it's important to not let it get to you. I recommend reading the entire Kitzmiller opinion by Judge Jones. The spectacle of ID getting a 130-page beatdown from a conservative christian judge will help to impress upon you how doomed the Uncommonly Dense are.

Yes, Judge Jones has a lot to answer for, destroying ID as a political force so completely that it is impossible to take them seriously any more.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2006,23:36   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 15 2006,15:45)
I started a blog, and rant into that about their idocy. And post here still!
The o'leary posts are like some sort of dementia inducing visual   narcotic.
They should read them out at riots, nobody would be able to concentrate on fighting as they'd be too busy trying to work out what point she's trying to make as she's so obtuse (or just incapable of stringing worlds together in the same way everybody else is!;)

I can't decide whether she feigns ignorance or is just plain stupid. On the Darwin/Hitler thread she asks why people care whether evil despots like Hitler were Creationists or Darwinists. Has it escaped her notice that Richard Weikart is a fellow of the DI, an organisation committed to overthrowing Darwinism. The "From Darwin to Hitler" thing is a pretty obvious attempt at attaching a stigma of immorality to Darwinism. Heck, she even participates in that cheap trick by asking if any Darwinists object to stem cell research on moral grounds.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2006,00:15   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 15 2006,17:56)
Quote (Altabin @ Sep. 15 2006,16:27)
By the way, I've been a long time lurker here.  Recently, however, I've been finding the level of disingenuity, stupidity and sheer wickedness at Uncommon Descent impossible to take without an opportunity to vent about it.  My wife has grown tired of hearing me, so I'm posting here now.  Putting it like that, it does make me wonder why I can't just stop visiting such a wretched intellectual train-wreck in the first place... ???

First, good to have you. Second, it's important to not let it get to you. I recommend reading the entire Kitzmiller opinion by Judge Jones. The spectacle of ID getting a 130-page beatdown from a conservative christian judge will help to impress upon you how doomed the Uncommonly Dense are.

agreed, plus you should give the behe testimonly a read.

They've got him pinned down, and he admits ID = astrology = bunk.

Plus, as you know the ID'ers love to twist the behe stuff in the trial round and round, if you read the entire section, in context, their arguments become pathetic. It's amazing they are still trying to twist the trial verdict round to give them some kind of support. Shows how stupid they are, basically.

Plus it's mighty enjoyable to read how, when given the change to shine the ID'ers fall at the 1st post and handwaving is their main evidence.

And the bit about the books "i dont see any books" is pure comedy gold.


CSI Bluffing - My blog.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2006,01:43   

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O'Leary's a bit like Peggy Hill.


Indeed; just like Peggy when she tries to speak spanish.

yup.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2006,04:35   

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When Improbabilities Become Exponentially Improbable

The first insight I had into the nonsensical nature of the random mutation (RM) part of the RM plus natural selection (NS) hypothesis came through my mathematical studies and experience in software engineering. See here for some probabilistic calculations about the most simple of all computer programs.

Of course, Darwinists always ask, How can you know that RM+NS can’t account for all of life? The answer is simple, and it’s called probabilistic combinatorics.

The underlying biochemical and information-driven functions of living systems are tightly integrated and controlled by an unimaginably complex, sophisticated, fault-tolerant, self-repairing, self-replicating computer program. Components of such a system cannot be altered to produce significant innovation without the simultaneous, coordinated alteration of the components with which they interact. This is what software engineers do, not copying errors.

This is a deafening cry of design.

A microbe did not mysteriously mutate into Mozart and his music, and most people, thankfully, are smart enough to figure out that this is a silly idea.
Filed under: Intelligent Design — GilDodgen @ 11:19 pm



   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2006,04:42   

Based on this comment on PT, and the fact that Casey Luskin is involved, we might need eventually to start an Official Evolution News and Views Thread. But not yet. It's still premature. We'll see...

edit: maybe a Casey Luskin Fan Club Thread. I don't know...

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2006,05:26   

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A microbe did not mysteriously mutate into Mozart and his music, and most people, thankfully, are smart enough to figure out that this is a silly idea.

This "silly idea" sounds like ID theory (sic), since it doesn't deny common descent any more. Thank you Gil for pointing out the stupidity of IDers.
Or are you going to tell us that the fagellum didn't mysteriously "poofed" into existence?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2006,14:05   

Denyse O'Leary:
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...I get the impression that it’s okay at Baylor to yay-hoo for Jesus as long as you make a fool of yourself and no one takes you seriously.

Sounds like a pretty accurate description of  Dembski's time at Baylor, but no, she was actually referring to Baylor's denial of tenure to Francis Beckwith.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2006,20:20   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 15 2006,13:56)

Likewise. I'd been meaning to join ACLU for a while but somehow never got around to it. Finally some neo-fascist anti-ACLU tantrum on Dave's part early last Summer drove me to get off my ass and join. I'm now one of Dave's super-villains, a "card-carrying member".

Thanks, Dave!

PS: I haven't yet noticed the big flood of junk mail Steve mentioned.

Same here! The 'tard got me to finally send in my check.

And no junk mail increase that I can detect.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2006,22:29   

Quote (Tom Ames @ Sep. 17 2006,01:20)
 
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 15 2006,13:56)
 
Quote (keiths @ Sep. 15 2006,01:52)
I joined both organizations largely because of what I witnessed at UD.

Likewise. I'd been meaning to join ACLU for a while but somehow never got around to it. Finally some neo-fascist anti-ACLU tantrum on Dave's part early last Summer drove me to get off my ass and join. I'm now one of Dave's super-villains, a "card-carrying member".

Same here! The 'tard got me to finally send in my check.

That's at least three of us who joined on account of Le Tard.  I'm beginning to suspect that he was planted at UD by the ACLU.

That UDOJ business?  Two sock puppets baiting a third.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 17 2006,08:49   

Quote (keiths @ Sep. 17 2006,03:29)
 
Quote (Tom Ames @ Sep. 17 2006,01:20)
   
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 15 2006,13:56)
   
Quote (keiths @ Sep. 15 2006,01:52)
I joined both organizations largely because of what I witnessed at UD.

Likewise. I'd been meaning to join ACLU for a while but somehow never got around to it. Finally some neo-fascist anti-ACLU tantrum on Dave's part early last Summer drove me to get off my ass and join. I'm now one of Dave's super-villains, a "card-carrying member".

Same here! The 'tard got me to finally send in my check.

That's at least three of us who joined on account of Le Tard.  I'm beginning to suspect that he was planted at UD by the ACLU.

David Scott Springer, ACLU poster boy.  :p

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 17 2006,11:36   

Genius Joel writes:
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The Inevitable Conclusion

It is no secret that Peter Singer of Princeton has some radical views. One of these views is that it is moral to kill babies once outside of the womb:
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   “Many people find this shocking, yet they support a woman’s right to have an abortion,” Singer, a professor of bioethics, said in a question and answer article in The Independent, a British newspaper. “One point on which I agree with opponents of abortion is that, from the point of view of ethics rather than the law, there is no sharp distinction between the fetus and the newborn baby.”

   Singer’s position is the “logical extension of the culture of death,” LifeSiteNews.com, a pro-life news agency, asserted. He contends there is no inherent dignity in man and no sanctity of human life. Singer rejects the idea that man was created in the image and likeness of God, the site noted, and therefore believes man deserves no special treatment.
Now, to clarify this and be fair to Singer, he isn’t teaching killing babies at will (at least not yet). Instead, if the baby could cause harm to himself, lack the dignity of life (such as disabled), or could bring harm to the family then it is justifiable to kill the newborn.

A lot of Christians are “pro-choice” or support naturalistic methods in science. However, thanks to Singer, we see the inevitable conclusion. We can sit in our science classes and learn naturalism and think, “Well what is so bad about this? It is just someone’s opinion” but then fail to see the broader impacts of this belief. Singer is a perfect example. When we remove any significance of man, especially that he is in the image of God, we remove any reason for preventing murder.

Under Singer’s view, it is more humane to kill a baby than to let that same baby go through life deformed. Of course, in our post-modern world we begin to lack any form of a definition of “deformed.” From this, we begin to lose any justification for preventing any murder.

However, do we now see the problem in allowing naturalism to be taught? Often I hear atheists argue that Singer’s view is radical, but then never explain how his view does not work or is inconsistent with naturalistic philosophy. If a Christian were to argue for the same thing it would be quite easy to show how he is radical and inconsistent with Christian philosophy. The challenge for naturalists is quite harder, and also explains why we see more and more coming over to Singer’s side.

This is the danger of naturalism in the public schools is that it allowed for the inevitable conclusion (death) of humans.
Yeah, right. And more and more scientists question evolution.

Anyway, I'm an atheist, and I can't tell you how eager I am to listen to another fundy explain why I must be an immoral, murdering, raping, etc etc etc. I really never knew those things about myself. Fundies must be the smartest people in the world.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 17 2006,12:40   

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we might need eventually to start an Official Evolution News and Views Thread.
It could also double as an IDthefuture thread.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2006,04:34   

Whatever happened to the www.overwhelmingevidence.com site that Dimbski claimed he was going to develp as a reply to Kitzmiller?   Does anyone else recall him speaking of it on UD?

Perhaps he's mislplaced all of that "overwhelming evidence"?

ps: I wonder if he is/was planning to use the sticky bun in the likeness of mother teresa as a part of the evidece for ID?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2006,05:20   

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Sep. 18 2006,09:34)
ps: I wonder if he is/was planning to use the sticky bun in the likeness of mother teresa as a part of the evidece for ID?

LOL :D

That was good.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2006,07:03   

Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Sep. 18 2006,10:20)
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Sep. 18 2006,09:34)
ps: I wonder if he is/was planning to use the sticky bun in the likeness of mother teresa as a part of the evidece for ID?

LOL :D

That was good.

Has anyone put the mother teresa sticky bun under the lense of that ID filter thingy?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2006,07:04   

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Sep. 18 2006,09:34)
Whatever happened to the www.overwhelmingevidence.com site that Dimbski claimed he was going to develp as a reply to Kitzmiller?   Does anyone else recall him speaking of it on UD?

Perhaps he's mislplaced all of that "overwhelming evidence"?

ps: I wonder if he is/was planning to use the sticky bun in the likeness of mother teresa as a part of the evidece for ID?

they've also blocked archive.org's ability to archive the site
http://uncommondescent.com/robots.txt

We're sorry, access to http://uncommondescent.com has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt

I wonder why :)

perhaps idiocy does not age all that well!

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2006,07:10   

Dozens of Deceitful Deity-Detectors Drone Dopily

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